Posted on 09/20/2009 4:30:50 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
Obama HAS presented proof. The birthers just don’t want to believe it. Like him or not, Obama is the president. The GOP LOST the election. Small wonder since republicans insist on sending gov’t nihilists to Washington. And criminals.
parsy, who says the birthers need to grow up
No, he hasn’t. He’s not released his actual birth certificate (long form), he has also not released his school records or virtually any documentation. He could clear up all of this tonight if he released ALL his records. He won’t, because there is something in those documents that are personally damning to him. What are they ?
Doesn’t it trouble you we know virtually NOTHING about this man’s history ? Doesn’t it trouble you the media was complicit in making sure we don’t learn about his history ? Why is it that the media found it more important to do a gynecological expedition of the Republican Vice-Presidential nominee’s teenage DAUGHTER than to bring the documentation on Zero’s history to the public ?
We have no legitimate documentation presented that shows he is even Constitutionally qualified to serve in that office. Where are his records ?
DJ, who is astonished that EVERY American isn’t up in arms that a non-citizen may be occupying the Presidency.
I ain’t up in arms because I believe the COLB. And the newspapers. I don’t see anything here to get worried about. Plus, I have a lot of faith in Hillary. If there was something there, she would have found it. I don’t give a hoot about his kindergarten records, his shot and vaccination records, his MVR, or his high school yearbook.
parsy, who frankly is more po’ed at Phil Gramm and Alan Greenspan right now.
That’s why you’re a left-wing Democrat, Parsy. You should put your faith in God, not in lying Communist papers, Zero, Hillary Clinton and this criminal, anti-Constitutional fascist Washington regime.
Oh.....BS! I trust very much if there was anything fishy about Obama’s citizenship, Hillary and Bill would have gotten the skinny on it. Being from Arkansas, like I am, we are born with the innate ability to find dirt on people. It is something in the water.
All them fancy pants lawyers from New York, and Washington, and sech, comes down to Arkansas during the Clinton years and we sent ‘em packing with their little briefcases hanging out their *sses. I was a Republican in those days, and could not stand the Clintons (still can’t stand Hillary), but as a proud Arkansan, I was proud to see them yankee lawyers paddled and sent home.
parsy, who trusts Bill and Hillary would have found any dirt on Obama
Hillary was neutered. She refused to go nuclear on Zero. At some point, there was a come to Satan meeting and it was spelled out to her. If she went nuclear on Zero and got the nomination that way, she’d have the entire Black base opposed to her and she’d lose the general (either they’d sit out the election or vote GOP in protest). With little exception, TN Democrats were behind Hillary (my Congressman Jim Cooper was behind Zero), but they didn’t get behind Zero in the general at all. McCain-Palin swept TN in a huge landslide, carrying almost every county. 2008 was a heavily Republican year in TN, like 1972. We stayed normal while a good chunk of the rest of the country lost its mind for an undocumented, unqualified Communist closeted Mohammadan of unknown origin and upbringing. It’s time to see the documentation, Parsy. Let’s get this cleared up. Demand action today ! FREE THE LONG FORM !
That's absolutely ridiculous. Blacks would've voted democratic regardless of who was on the ticket and the Clintons weren't fearful of Chicago politics, --rank amateurs by Clinton standards.
For crying out loud, Bill Clinton is a former two-term President, highly regarded by many Americans with friends, associates and former lackeys still employed in Washington's highest offices. Do you really think they were intimidated into silence by the Junior Senator from Illinois?
The Clintons aren't and never were afraid of Obama. If Hillary had something on him, she would've "gone nuclear" with it during the final gasp of her campaign. The Clintons wanted to return to the White House more than anything and there was nothing Obama could've blackmailed them with.
I disagree. I stand on what I said. The anger by Blacks at Hillary’s campaign was palpable as it dragged on through Operation Chaos. They wouldn’t/couldn’t pull the trigger as a result. Now am I suggesting 90% of Blacks would’ve voted for McCain-Palin in protest ? Nope. But had even a quarter of their vote went for the GOP ticket while depressing the turnout of the rest, that would’ve been it for the Dems. A victory for McCain.
It doesn't have to be the "long form". The "long form" isn't what Hawaii issues any longer when one requests their birth certificate. The "short form" is legal proof.
"Doesn’t it trouble you we know virtually NOTHING about this man’s history ?"
But what's it got to do with eligibility? The election is over. People made thier choice despite (or because of) the lack of knowledge. The question at hand is about eligibility.
"We have no legitimate documentation presented that shows he is even Constitutionally qualified to serve in that office."
Yes, we do.
When he shows his ORIGINAL documents, I’ll be convinced (and I don’t mean just the birth certificate long form). I couldn’t care less what Hawaii issues “now.” He wasn’t born “now”, he was born in 1961 (presumably THAT also isn’t a fabrication), and seeing some flimsy printout that resembles nothing of what 1961 documents are, it’s thoroughly unacceptable. Until such time, I’ve seen NO PROOF, only having the “word” of the media and the man himself, for which neither has any established credibility. The media has proven a long track record of covering up for the man, we know almost NOTHING about him. There remains something in his documents and records he does not want us to see, and it is imperative we see ALL of them.
After all, if this were a Republican, we’d have already seen them by now, the media would never have allowed, nor participated in such a heinous cover-up.
It's not really about convincing you.
"He wasn’t born “now”, he was born in 1961"
If you ask the state for a copy of your birth certificate, it gets isssued "now", regardless of your date of birth.
Distrust the media and Obama all you want. You should, they've earned it, I agree. But not liking Obama does not translate to him being ineligible. This is the fundamental birther error. They confuse their desires with the facts.
I’ll emphasize again that what I want to know is WHAT is on those documents (beginning with the actual b.c., not some phony nonsense, clear up through his school records) that he doesn’t (nor the media) wants us to see. I don’t want to just see his long form, I want to see all his documentation, everything that the public has never been allowed to see. I’m not a birther, I’m a “documenter.”
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