Posted on 09/18/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by EveningStar
Irving Kristol, 89, a forceful essayist, editor and university professor who became the leading architect of neoconservatism, which he called a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been "mugged by reality," died Friday at the Capital Hospice in Arlington.
He spent much of his career in New York but had for the last two decades lived at the Watergate apartments in the District. He died of complications from lung cancer, said his son, William Kristol, the founder and editor of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine.
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Why, I think there’s a little tear streaming down my cheek...
No tears for a happy man.
>>which he called a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been “mugged by reality,”
Shouldn’t that read “a political and intellectual movement for liberals to go underground and infiltrate real conservatism”?
God Bless him. But whatever was Neo it was hardly conservative.
As Mark Levin says “when libs say Neocon they really mean The Jews”
The neocons have done a fine job of coopting conservatism, and bending anyone who might have conservative leanings to their point of view.
If only the beast he helped create would die with him.
Was this man Bill Kristol’s father? Not the Harry Met Sally Billy Kristol; the Neo-Con in Washington, DC.
And is Bill Kristol’s mother’s name Gertrude Himmelfarb?
Yes! You nailed it! Vote Ron Paul!
Yes and yes.
Or as the later generation called it...'a political & intellectual movement for hippies that finally grew up'.
God bless and Godspeed, Sir!
His wit, intellect, and revolutionary anti-communist/leftist ideas left the liberals’ brains burnt out and jaws lying on the floor.
It looks like the Ron Paul freaks have invaded the thread. :(
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Irving Kristol was a great intellectual , his move to exposing Marxism and on world affairs.
His wife Gertrude Himmelfarb, another great mind.
Have three of her books.
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My condolences to Bill Kristol. The good news is that his father lived a full and extremely productive life. That “been mugged by reality” line by Kristol, is one of the best ever.
RIP Mr. Kristol
RIP
one of the fathers of the Reagan Revolution
Correct.
Neoconservatism is a blight upon America. It is responsible for the shape we are in today.
Why all the bitterness on this thread?
Spoken like a true Left Wing loon, newbee
We have a bunch of them on this thread. :(
I am no fan of neocons, but if that’s as far as an ex-liberal can come, I’ll take him.
Think of the term "neocon" as a vessel into which True Conservatives pour all of their frustrations, imagined or not.
As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.
No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.
It's just the anti-neocon loons coming up for air.
And usually it will all lead back to one thing......'The Joooooooos.'
You mean an isolationist?
For my clarification, neocon = RINO?
It’s good that you made that Kristol Klear. :)
Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.
A neoconservative was originally a term used for pro-war liberals, like Joe Lieberman or Rudy Giuliani, who wanted wars for democracy and nation-building. The term has since evolved to basically mean anyone who supports pre-emptive wars.
Don't ask me to define it. Can't do it.
The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?
“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, old right conservative.
You mean an isolationist?”
Though the term is generally meant as an insult...yes. But it’s much more than that.
That, or maybe Mark Levin still reads Pat Buchanan's work.
That’s not true. The late IK said
“QUOTE: ‘Ever since I can remember, I’ve been a neo-something: a neo-Marxist, a neo-Trotskyist, a neo-liberal, a neo-conservative; in religion a neo-orthodox even while I was a neo-Trotskyist and a neo-Marxist. I’m going to end up a neo-that’s all, neo dash nothing.’”
And Ron Paul is very explicit and precise in his prescient 2003 critique of neoconservatism:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970178683925412799&hl=en&emb=1#
“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, old right conservative.
The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?”
No, the ones who favor an almost non-existent government (compared to the behemoth we have today), and lower taxes...preferably no direct taxes at all.
That would be, Ronald Reagan himself!
Irving Kristol was the FATHER of the neoconservative movement. A movement more progressive, aka. liberal, in its nature than conservative.
Ron Paul? He’s the shrimp-subsidy guy, right?
Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.
Precisely!
A friend of mine wrote an article the other day mentioning the Bilderbergers. The editor cut that portion of the article out saying that "ANY mention of the Bilderbergers was anti-Semitic". As my writer friend said, the only Jewish Bilderberger he even knew of was George Soros, so that's a non-starter.
More like a movement for liberals who wanted to pretend they were conservative without actually giving up their statist, quasi-fascist, Big Government tendencies.
Sorry, never heard of him.
But Billy and Weakly Standard are not particularly helpful to The Movement, IMHO. Pinkshirts. They represent precisely 17 “republicans” in DC & suburbs.
He should be proud of what he has left behind -
Wm F Buckley, not so much....
RIP, and prayers for the Kristol family. Great minds.
Oh, GO AWAY - and how shameful to crash a thread dedicated to the passing of a great man and thinker - you POS...
You mean, like McCain supporters?
He is more well known for his bestselling books and insurgent campaign to audit the Federal Reserve.
Did you see the ‘Audit the Fed Hits 290 Co Sponsors’ thread?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2342245/posts
That was a nice surprise for Constitution Day!
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