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Feminist Camille Paglia: Birthers Have a Point
wnd.com ^ | September 17, 2009 | staff

Posted on 09/17/2009 10:47:55 PM PDT by kellynla

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Paglia responded:

First of all, I reject the idea that the 'birther' campaign is motivated by racism. There may be racism among it, but there are legitimate questions about the documentation of Obama's birth certificate. I'm sorry, I've been following this closely from the start. To assume that all those signs about the birth controversy were motivated by racism, that is simply wrong. She continued, explaining she first came on the scene in the 1990s and has dealt with cries of sexism and homophobia, calling such battle cries "emotional" triggers.

Paglia said the fact there was little racism in the campaign against Obama is evidenced by the fact he "was elected by white people."

Criticism of Obama, instead, is coming because of the "strategic failures he is making in pushing this very important issue of health care reform."

According to the Washington Independent, the exchange was "compelling."

Paglia, a professor of humanities and media studies at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia and Salon.com columnist, earlier wrote, "Yes, there were ambiguities about Obama's birth certificate that have never been satisfactorily resolved. And the embargo on Obama's educational records remains troubling."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aninconvenienttruth; becauseisaidso; camillepaglia; certifigate; constitution; eligibility; eligibilty; obama; obamatruthfile; potus; pravdamedia
Don't cha just love it when Lefties eat their own. BIG SMILE

Nytol...and sweet dreams!

1 posted on 09/17/2009 10:47:55 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: pissant

ping


2 posted on 09/17/2009 10:48:12 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~PING!


3 posted on 09/17/2009 10:51:13 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: kellynla

It’s obvious to any logical person that Obama is hiding something.

What it is we don’t know for certain.

But there is something Obama doesn’t want anyone to see on that Long Form Birth Certificate. If it even exists.


4 posted on 09/17/2009 10:51:46 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: kellynla

Camille has a libertarian streak. Sometimes she’s just too honest for her crowd.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 10:53:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: kellynla
It appears the Putin knows he is not Constitutionally qualified and is using as leverage. We warned that this may happen. Pelosi knew, who else knew and when. Seems to be treason.
6 posted on 09/17/2009 10:53:39 PM PDT by voveo
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To: kellynla

Odd, very odd coming from her liberal self. Still pissed off Hillary supporter maybe?


7 posted on 09/17/2009 10:54:37 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: F15Eagle

Sometime before Bummer hit the big time as a potential presidential nominee, there was a systematic purge of his background. Digging the details of that out would be a whole nother story of itself. Maybe if Bummer does something that shames even his myrmidons, they will come forward with something to say.


8 posted on 09/17/2009 10:55:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: kellynla
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS (even a honky POTUS) had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.


9 posted on 09/17/2009 11:04:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: The Cajun
Actually, Camille Paglia's generally pretty tough on HRC. Paglia is not motivated by resentment over anything. She is one of the most consistently fair observers of culture and politics out there. Her comments about the birthers are bad news for Obama.
10 posted on 09/17/2009 11:06:29 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: kellynla

CP might finally be turning on Obama. She is disillusioned for sure, more so than she is admitting.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 11:07:43 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: kellynla
"Obama will need to cut the umbilical to his hometown posse, whose inefficiency and poor decision-making took the shine off his honeymoon and brought the dispirited Republicans back from the dead," she advised at the time.

What a line! Go Camille!

I am old enough to recall when, back in the 70's, Camille Paglia called a young woman on going to a guy's dorm room, actually getting into bed with him while they were both drunk, then saying "no" at the last minute and calling it "rape" the next day.

Paglia didn't say it wasn't "rape", because the women actually did say "No!". But she also said that it was stupid to think that government could protect you beforehand on a momentary decision to behave like an idiot and then say, "No". She also said that this kind of encouraged naivete for women was not in the least bit "female empowerment". Want to empower your daughters, parents? Wise them up!

Sounds like common sense today, but in that era, Paglia was the first one to bring an ounce of common sense to the feminist argument -- unfortunately it was only "an ounce".

12 posted on 09/17/2009 11:10:03 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: kellynla
One curious thing about Zero's presidency that will be unique, there will be no biography. Biographers won't have anything to research. There won't be a "Presidential Library". There won't be anything to put in it.

Μολὼν λάβε


13 posted on 09/17/2009 11:12:07 PM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: kellynla

I predict she’ll go the way of David Mamet. Both have their hippie dreams to keep them warm, but that was such a long time ago and the gas bills keep coming in.


14 posted on 09/17/2009 11:12:07 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Bokababe

Bummer is, in essence, a committee. Without that “hometown posse” he is a puppet without a puppeteer. If Paglia expects that to do anything, she’s going to get a big surprise.


15 posted on 09/17/2009 11:19:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: TigersEye
18 SAT and LSAT test scores

Thanks for adding these to the litany. The release of these Obama fears over all else.

16 posted on 09/17/2009 11:22:43 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

I confess that I stole the list from someone else. But no one has challenged that line by showing me where they are.


17 posted on 09/17/2009 11:28:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: utahagen
Paglia is not motivated by resentment over anything. She is one of the most consistently fair observers of culture and politics out there.

It is my nature to be very suspicious of liberals appearing to be honest (always wondering what's really going on behind the curtain).

Her comments about the birthers are bad news for Obama.

I sincerely hope you are right.

18 posted on 09/17/2009 11:29:02 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: TigersEye
That list has been going around for awhile. It didn't include the SAT and LSAT scores, and I'd pointed that out. Someone, somewhere included these.

The LSAT's would show that Obama never ever could have gotten into Harvard Law School without AA, and would make his Magna Cum Laude (Top 5%) graduation one of the most profound mysteries of academic history.

19 posted on 09/17/2009 11:38:53 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: kellynla

I’ve been called names by leftists before. Lying, slandering and personal attacks are the foundation of liberal debate. As far as the birth thing goes, I believe 0’s grandmother, and she is blacker than he is. Not only does her additional blackness give her more street credentials, she was old enough at the time to remember where 0 was born. He was too young to remember anything. It’s not his fault, mind you. We all go through a brief time in our lives that is hard to remember.


20 posted on 09/17/2009 11:44:30 PM PDT by pallis
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To: The Cajun

She’s probably gay and BO isn’t as helpful to gay causes as they would like probably because of his treatment at the hands of Frank Marshall Davis.


21 posted on 09/17/2009 11:58:31 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: kellynla

This really is two puzzles:

1. Why won’t Obama release so much information.

2. Why since he has put them under attack hasn’t the CIA found some of this information and leaked it to the press. [I know they would have to leak it to FNC to actually have someone air it.]


22 posted on 09/17/2009 11:59:55 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Plutarch
There was something on the list when I lifted it that I was challenged on and took off when shown that it was rather iffy. But then I added #22 when I saw someone else mention it. The list remains substantial and raises a large black cloud over 0bama's Presidency. And character.

Who is this guy, America?

23 posted on 09/18/2009 12:09:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye

The only person that has rattled off that list on air, that I know of, is Rusty Humpries. I don’t know why Glenn Beck doesn’t do it.....It’s a FACT that these records have not been released or have been scrubed. It’s a MONUMENTAL story no matter how you look at it.....


24 posted on 09/18/2009 12:12:16 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: All

Well I didn’t invent the theory, but I do think he has been both American, or foreign his whole life..depending on which one payed the best...or offered the most.


25 posted on 09/18/2009 12:12:53 AM PDT by uncle fenders
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To: uncle fenders

I love this women...don’t agree with her on everything, but she is one tough cookie!!!


26 posted on 09/18/2009 12:24:48 AM PDT by gman992
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To: TheThinker

Did Davis attempt to molest the Bummer?


27 posted on 09/18/2009 12:36:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

I think it may be building up to a point where those things become more relevant to people who aren’t so politically informed. A history of known actions is being laid down every day of his administration. That will make his lack of a previous history become more interesting.


28 posted on 09/18/2009 1:05:47 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Plutarch
It wouldn't surprise me if Obama got all As at Columbia. Many good schools give As out like candy, especially if the students are “people of color” who contribute to class discussions.
29 posted on 09/18/2009 1:48:19 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: voveo
Obam'ster isn't ready for prime time. He is a pawn, an asset of those who would destroy us. He may or may not fathom the degree of his complicity. But Russians know an easy mark when they see one.

We have more to fear from unilateral disarmament due to Barry's 'hate america first' ethos than anything else.

30 posted on 09/18/2009 2:00:53 AM PDT by x_plus_one (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: voveo

Makes me wonder if some of those “tears” Pelosi was holding back were due to the fact that she knows she may be “caught” concerning Obama’s eligibility for president.


31 posted on 09/18/2009 2:27:56 AM PDT by Grumpybutt (Common Sense - where has it gone?)
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To: kellynla
The question is this...

Is she a classical liberal, the McGovern type and not the Daily Kos, Michael Moore loon branch.

If so this is the type that would have debated William F. Buckley on Firing Line and maybe even went out to dinner with them and like Buckley would even question their own side.

Debate Michael Moore? He would cause a scene and their wouldn't be enough air freshener to get any of us in the room.....

32 posted on 09/18/2009 3:07:21 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: TigersEye

In regard to the List, I would also like to see Obama’s application and verification of his Illinois Law License.
As far as I can tell, he never actually represented any of his clients in court, which casts some doubt on whether he actually was licensed or not, IMHO.


33 posted on 09/18/2009 3:23:09 AM PDT by virgin (Don't screw with me.)
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To: pallis
Not only does her additional blackness give her more street credentials

racist!!

</sarcasm>
34 posted on 09/18/2009 4:42:54 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: JLS

You mean like using a person called MR SMITH to locate a BC in Kenya?


35 posted on 09/18/2009 5:12:28 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

She certainly does. I like reading her articles because she will be fair and strives to ferret out the truth. Anyone with any knowledge about how things work or anyone who takes a look at the simple requirements in one’s own life has to say that something stinks about the birth certificate issue and about those college records which are sealed away out of public sight, not to mention the 800 million or whatever has been spent not to produce a valid $12 document.


36 posted on 09/18/2009 5:47:22 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

She is the only honest liberal I am aware of. I’ll read anything she writes.


37 posted on 09/18/2009 5:48:43 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: pallis

Hard to remember....hmm, what did I do YESTERDAY???


38 posted on 09/18/2009 8:34:19 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Grumpybutt

If he gets tossed out, Biden will be president. She’s next in line...


39 posted on 09/18/2009 8:35:57 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: virgin
He's listed as a member of the Bar in Illinois.

He was ACORN's lead attorney in Motor Voter cases, although I haven't researched the cases and don't know if he appeared.

The real mystery about his bar app is why he didn't list the "Barry Soetoro" alias, by which he was known for some years. He also neglected to mention "Drug Use," which he highlighted in his official bio. He also left out parking violations, etc. which weren't paid until his candidacy.

Not good.

40 posted on 09/18/2009 8:42:08 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: virgin
He's listed as a member of the Bar in Illinois.

He was ACORN's lead attorney in Motor Voter cases, although I haven't researched the cases and don't know if he appeared.

The real mystery about his bar app is why he didn't list the "Barry Soetoro" alias, by which he was known for some years. He also neglected to mention "Drug Use," which he highlighted in his official bio. He also left out parking violations, etc. which weren't paid until his candidacy.

Not good.

41 posted on 09/18/2009 8:49:45 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: kellynla

NOM NOM NOM... Napkin Camille?


42 posted on 09/18/2009 9:27:14 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Just putting two and two together. Davis was a pedophile and Obama spent quite a bit of time with him.

I think it's the reason Obama hates America so much as he was probably indoctrinated and molested simultaneously.

And since his mother was out whoring instead of protecting him, it would explain his hatred for his mother and his mother's race.

43 posted on 09/18/2009 1:27:36 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: TheThinker
Just putting two and two together. Davis was a pedophile and Obama spent quite a bit of time with him.

I think it's the reason Obama hates America so much as he was probably indoctrinated and molested simultaneously.

And since his mother was out whoring instead of protecting him, it would explain his hatred for his mother and his mother's race.


44 posted on 09/18/2009 1:32:46 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: TheThinker

If Davis had an unnatural inclination to force himself sexually on children...

Hoo, boy. I don’t envy Barry, or Barack, or whatever his real name is, in that position.

It could explain his obsession for ripping up his past; literally going to the sources and removing the paperwork. He might not be ABLE to produce a copy of his old long form birth certificate any more, even if born in Hawaii.


45 posted on 09/18/2009 1:48:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: kellynla
"Yes, there were ambiguities about Obama's birth certificate that have never been satisfactorily resolved. And the embargo on Obama's educational records remains troubling."

NSS! Also troubling is the complete lack of vetting by the LSM.

46 posted on 09/18/2009 1:50:50 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: TruthWillWin

Why would the lamestreamers want to “vet” a gospel?


47 posted on 09/18/2009 1:53:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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