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White House to Scrap Bush’s Approach to Missile Shield
Slimes ^ | 9/17/2009 | PETER BAKER and NICHOLAS KULISH

Posted on 09/17/2009 7:09:46 AM PDT by balls

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration plans to announce on Thursday that it will scrap former President George W. Bush’s planned missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic and instead deploy a reconfigured system aimed more at intercepting shorter-range Iranian missiles, according to people familiar with the plans.

President Obama decided not to deploy a sophisticated radar system in the Czech Republic or 10 ground-based interceptors in Poland, as Mr. Bush had planned. Instead, the new system his administration is developing would deploy smaller SM-3 missiles, at first aboard ships and later probably either in southern Europe or Turkey, those familiar with the plans said.

The White House will announce the decision Thursday morning and Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who was first appointed by Mr. Bush, will then discuss it with reporters at 10:30 a.m. It amounts to one of the biggest national security reversals by the new administration, one that will upset Czech and Polish allies and possibly please Russia, which adamantly objected to the Bush plan. But Obama administration officials stressed that they are not abandoning missile defense, only redesigning it to meet the more immediate Iranian threat.

“The way forward enhances our homeland defense and protects our forces abroad as well as our European allies,” said an administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid upstaging the announcement by Mr. Gates. “Our review has been driven by an updated intelligence assessment of Iran’s missile programs and new advances in our missile defense capabilities and technologies.”

Administration officials said the Bush missile defense architecture was better designed to counter potential long-range missiles by Iran, but recent tests and intelligence have indicated that Tehran is moving more rapidly toward developing short- and medium-range missiles.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bhoussr; conspirator; criminal; hesacommunist; iran; newyorkslimes; nyslimes; obama; poland; russia; sovietunion; treasonous
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This commie bastard is screwing America and our stongest allies. Putin is laughing is ass off.
1 posted on 09/17/2009 7:09:46 AM PDT by balls
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To: balls
The poles should be used to being reneged on by the US.
2 posted on 09/17/2009 7:11:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: balls

I’m just curious why we’d be spending money we don’t have to defend the Czechs and the Poles? No offense to them, just wondering how that can be a priority? Shouldn’t we have a shield here in the US first? I don’t get it.


3 posted on 09/17/2009 7:13:57 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: balls
recent tests and intelligence have indicated that Tehran is moving more rapidly toward developing short- and medium-range missiles.

Uh, that would be the type of intelligence this bunch decried as "lying about wmd's"--

Pansy-Of-The-United-States is keeping his pre-election promise of unilateral disarmament.

4 posted on 09/17/2009 7:14:08 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: balls
Plus, Obama's system is much cheaper

some text

5 posted on 09/17/2009 7:16:14 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: balls

To please his communist buddies in Russia.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 7:17:23 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: balls

Criminal.

Treasonous.

Conspirator.

Key words to describe his treacherous global behavior.
Failure to protect and provide for the American people and her allies. Then they want to spread the wealth to the have not nations? Poor priorities. Ill understanding of how the real world operates and a relentless drive to destroy the US and the west!

Destroyer of the American way. The man needs to be impeached.


7 posted on 09/17/2009 7:18:42 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: balls

OBAMA’S FOREIGN POLICY=SURRENDER.

CAPITULATES TO NORTH KOREA ON TALKS
CAPITULATES TO RUSSIA ON MISSILE DEFENSE
CAPITULATES TO HAMAS ON FUNDING & ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS

WEAK.


8 posted on 09/17/2009 7:19:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: balls

America has been the world policeman since the beginning of time at the taxpayers expense. It has provided many with safety and freedom over the last 233 years.

Obama wants to destroy that too.


9 posted on 09/17/2009 7:20:33 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: balls

Domestic-Enemy-in-Chief speaking now...


10 posted on 09/17/2009 7:21:02 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO)
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To: balls

A predictable development. He is a Democrat, after all, and one from the extreme lftist fringe of the party.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 7:22:49 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: onemiddleamerican

“Domestic-Enemy-in-Chief speaking now...”

Obama is as dangerous as Al Queda and the Taliban.


12 posted on 09/17/2009 7:23:14 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: balls

One Polish take on it, with mixed comments:

http://www.polskieradio.pl/thenews/international/?id=116074


13 posted on 09/17/2009 7:24:21 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Huck

“Shouldn’t we have a shield here in the US first?”

It’s not like a force-field. You can prevent missiles from hitting the US by intercepting them anywhere along the trajectory. Advanced deployment makes sense to me as a building block of integrated missile defense.


14 posted on 09/17/2009 7:24:42 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: ecomcon

That system worked pretty well at Crecy and Agincourt.


15 posted on 09/17/2009 7:25:32 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: LottieDah

No questions... he couldn’t leave the briefing faster if he was strapped on an Iranian missile.


16 posted on 09/17/2009 7:26:35 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama Hijacks 9/11: http://www.serve.gov/assets/documents/09_0828_potus.pdf)
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To: ecomcon
To please his communist buddies in Russia.

Precisely. Today marks exactly, to the day, seventy years since the Soviet Union invaded Poland. How much more blatant could you be?

17 posted on 09/17/2009 7:27:39 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Advanced deployment makes sense to me as a building block of integrated missile defense.

Well, the article states the defense system will be placed closer to Iran, so that seems to be in line with your thinking on the matter.

18 posted on 09/17/2009 7:30:00 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: All

APPEASEMENT ... (definition)

i) Putting today’s worries off until some uncertain future time, when someone else will have to take a stand (because you didn’t).

ii) The immoral practice of sending a much larger number of future Americans into harms way in the future in order to temporarily look good in the present

iii) Progressive strategy, which has no historical validity, for winning wars, defeating enemies and preserving freedom & democracy


19 posted on 09/17/2009 7:30:54 AM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: LottieDah
CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN?
Hussein Obama must be voted out of Office in 4 years; that is unless he can have him removed because of the unconstitutionality issue with his BC. He is destroying this nation and everything for which it stands.
20 posted on 09/17/2009 7:32:36 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Disgusting but true.


21 posted on 09/17/2009 7:32:53 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: balls

Right now I am watching SecDef Gates defend this atrocious decision.

Sickening.


22 posted on 09/17/2009 7:35:07 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: balls
Does anyone have an idea just how defenseless a POTUS can leave the nation before it's considered treason?

I know, silly question. There's no such THING as treason any more.

23 posted on 09/17/2009 7:35:29 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Huck

Yes we should have one here, and there is technology avaialable. Since Reagan, congress has never had the will to do it.


24 posted on 09/17/2009 7:35:45 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: Huck

It isnt defending Czechs and Poles. Get out a globe, look at Iran,,,trace your way to New York and DC by the direct route. A missile in its early boost phase passes over Czech republic, where the radar plots it. Then missiles are fired from poland for the intercept.

This never had anything to do with Russia. It was a mere handful of missiles, like 10 or so. Russia could easily overwhelm that. Also any russian launch tracks wouldnt pass over europe, they would fly over the polar region.

Russia knew the missiles had nothing to do with them, and had an ulterior diplomatic motive. Obama the amateur got owned by them. This was a minor thing he could easily have won.


25 posted on 09/17/2009 7:36:01 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: balls; All

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague”.”

~~Marcus Tullius Cicero


26 posted on 09/17/2009 7:36:15 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Obama's Blackberry, who's on the other end?)
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To: ecomcon

And his friends in Iran. Meanwhile, he is aking a hard line in Honduras, and will not meet the Dalai Lama.

What a punk, what a tool.


27 posted on 09/17/2009 7:37:43 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: PghBaldy
No questions... he couldn’t leave the briefing faster if he was strapped on an Iranian missile.

Of course no questions: he DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT EXCEPT THAT HE WANTS TO SURRENDER TO RUSSIA'S DEMANDS.

So he sloughs off to golf some more and has his SecDef do the heavy lifting.

He is nothing more than a script reading ignoramus.

WHY Gates has continued to stay on and defend this dolt is amazing.

28 posted on 09/17/2009 7:37:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: DesertRhino

Yeah, apparantly it’s all about IRAN. And so they are moving the system closer to IRAN. Doesn’t really sound like caving in to me. If it’s a better way to defend against Iran, I’m for it. If it makes Russia happy too, so what?


29 posted on 09/17/2009 7:38:00 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

bttt. good quote.


30 posted on 09/17/2009 7:39:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: swain_forkbeard
That system worked pretty well at Crecy and Agincourt.

Well that's just great, we'll be well prepared for the next horde of French knights.

31 posted on 09/17/2009 7:39:27 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: balls

Three more years of this bullshit and we’ll be reduced to throwing strongly worded letters of protest at our enemies.

Oh, wait - we’re doing that now.


32 posted on 09/17/2009 7:40:10 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: Huck

Moving it where? Aren’t our Eastern European allies worth defending?


33 posted on 09/17/2009 7:40:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Huck
We are not defending "them" we are defending the West. They are on the eastern frontier of the west, hence it makes sense to put a missile shield there.

You wouldn't think you'd have to explain this kind of thing to a sentient being.

34 posted on 09/17/2009 7:40:46 AM PDT by Publius Maximus (God, please let 2010 and 2012 come quickly...)
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To: DesertRhino

I really have mixed emotions on this. I appreciate your comments however we have navsats around the globe and intercept aircraft and missile’s for any long ride here.

I think europe should pay for its own defense - they have not and want the american taxpayer to pay for them.

There is nothing stoping either country from buying and implementing their own defense.


35 posted on 09/17/2009 7:41:26 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Thermalseeker
Check the UK newspapers on Drudge page for their take. I think soon Europe will be missing Bush.
I am starting to experience JFK deja vu with the actions of the Son of OBama:
JFK=Berlin Wall....BHO=no support for Iranians
JFK=Cuba Accommodation and removal of missiles from Turkey...BHO=Missile Removal from Eastern Europe and Accommodation with Chavez
JFK=Abandonment of allies at Bay of Pigs....BHO=Abandonment of Honduras republic JKF=Increase troop commitment to Vietnam....BHO=increased troop commitment to Afghanistan
36 posted on 09/17/2009 7:42:14 AM PDT by BilLies
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To: DesertRhino
I simply can't comprehend this decision. The media reports I've seen so far don't even try to provide a reasonable rationale. Russia does not have a legitimate objection to 10 interceptor missiles when it has an arsenal of thousands of nukes. This system was designed for isolated rogue launches such as from Iran, or a terrorist effort or something similar. So what the heck is really going on???

Are that many people in the leadership of America really so much in favor of bald-faced treason? One of the few legitimate functions of government is to protect its people; here we have an administration that is usurping all kinds of roles government is NOT supposed to have, while doing what it can to undermine its legitimate roles. We need regime change, urgently.

37 posted on 09/17/2009 7:43:46 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: angkor
Here's a quote

17.09.2009 11:42 What many are saying here in Poland is that this is a crap day to announce such a thing – the day of the Soviet invasion of Poland. Insensitive? Oh, yeah! Good one Washington! dunderhead
38 posted on 09/17/2009 7:43:55 AM PDT by cmsgop (Another proud graduate of the Larry Storch school of posting)
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To: DesertRhino
Russia knew the missiles had nothing to do with them....

Obamalamadingdong chose the 70th anniversary, to the day, of the Soviet Union's invasion of Poland to make this announcement. Accident? Chance? This plan has been in the works for months. He could have chosen any day this week, but he chooses September 17th to make this announcement. If Russia never had anything to do with it isn't the timing kind of odd?

39 posted on 09/17/2009 7:44:17 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: balls

If America’s word is only good until the next election, maybe monarchy wasn’t such a bad idea after all.


40 posted on 09/17/2009 7:44:35 AM PDT by nina0113 (Sign seen at the rally: "Don't Tell Obama What Comes After Trillion".)
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To: swain_forkbeard

“intercepting them anywhere along the trajectory”

Good point. And from what ive read, the boost phase is best, slowest, and brightest, so to speak. Space phase it’s lots tougher, then re-entry is a little easier again.
Boost is always best if you can. Obozo gave that away, pleased the Russians and Iranians, betrayed the Poles and Czechs, all in one move. What a guy.


41 posted on 09/17/2009 7:44:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: balls


Krushchev, bury you


42 posted on 09/17/2009 7:45:43 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: DesertRhino

I think Putin liked Bush. Of course, they were never buddies but at least Putin respected Bush and realized he couldn’t be bullied.

He understands Obama also. Thus the contempt.


43 posted on 09/17/2009 7:46:49 AM PDT by altura
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To: Mr. Wright

Mr. Wright...you are preaching to the choir.


44 posted on 09/17/2009 7:46:49 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: balls

Jesse Jackson let slip one time that he wanted cut Obama’s ‘boys’ off. He would have been sadly disappointed to find out someone beat him to it.


45 posted on 09/17/2009 7:47:05 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Moving it where? Aren’t our Eastern European allies worth defending?

Maybe. It seems to me we can't defend everybody. There must be priorities. Why shouldn't Europe defend itself? What have they done for us lately?

46 posted on 09/17/2009 7:47:11 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: balls


Get ready for an Iran nuke coming to your home soon!

Drink up... it may be your last chance!
47 posted on 09/17/2009 7:47:21 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: balls; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet; LonePalm; Ernest_at_the_Beach; george76; NormsRevenge

70 Years ago, today, Russia/Communists invaded Poland.

Soviet invasion of Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Prelude|Military campaign|Allied reaction|Aftermath
The 1939 Soviet invasion of Poland was a military operation that started without a formal declaration of war on 17 September 1939, during the early stages of World War II, sixteen days after the beginning of the Nazi German...

wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland


48 posted on 09/17/2009 7:47:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Publius Maximus

Well, the new configuration is designed to defend Europe, so you should be ok with it. I personally don’t see why Europe can’t defend itself. Why should we spend money we don’t have to defend them? Let em build their own shield.


49 posted on 09/17/2009 7:48:28 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: balls; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz; GOPJ; sickoflibs; TigerLikesRooster; _Jim; SE Mom; ...
Stabbing our Allies in the back to appease Russia. This is disgraceful. This is like democrats leaving eastern Europe to Stalin after WWII. This is the worst I have seen yet.
50 posted on 09/17/2009 7:48:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, redistribution is the government spending you demand")
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