Smoke 'em out of parks; New cig-ban plan

New York Post ^ | September 15, 2009 | SALLY GOLDENBERG & LACHLAN CARTWRIGHT

[Eric Blair 2084]

New York City to smokers: Butt out of our parks.

Health Commissioner Thomas Farley announced yesterday he wants to ban smoking in public parks and city beaches as part of a plan to make New Yorkers healthier.

"We don't think children, parents, when they're standing at soccer games, should have to be breathing in smoke from the person next to them," Farley said after unveiling the city's 10-point plan alongside Mayor Bloomberg.

"We don't think our children should have to be watching someone smoke."

The city could outlaw puffing in parks through legislation passed by the City Council or an administrative rule change by the Parks Department, Farley said. The mayor said his anti-smoking agenda includes glaring, "with not a particularly nice look," at smokers gathered outside buildings.

"Social pressure really does work," said Bloomberg, himself a former smoker.

[Eric Blair 2084]

OK, on the surface this looks like another dog bites man story. Smoking ban. The smell is annoying, public health SHS whatever, blah, blah.....Nothing unusual here until you dig a little deeper.

Sometimes the statist lets the truth out by accident.

Witness this quote:

"We don't think our children should have to be watching someone smoke."

A late great friend of mine Gian Turci saw this coming years ago. He's not here to say "I told you so". He left it for his friends to carry the torch. (FWIW, he didn't die of lung cancer or emphysema, he died of a brain hemmorhage). He wrote:

''The aim of these criminals is one and one only: to change the culture through fraud. I would like to articulate here. The upper echelon of "public health" knows absolutely well that passive smoke dangers are a fraud – and, by the same token, that not even one death can be demonstrated to be caused by smoking. Yet – for the reasons we both know – they continue to push the fraud to achieve the cultural change and enrich Big Pharma in the process. For a colourful example: what physical harm can a man do to society if he walk down the street with his penis dangling out of his pants? None. Yet, it is forbidden in every country because it’s cultural. It was not always like that – and even today there are some tribes who go fully naked. You catch the drift: the goal of these bastards is to make it INDECENT to smoke in public (streets and parks included), immoral to smoke in private, forbidden to smoke in cars, forbidden to smoke in your own home in the presence of children and non smokers – so you are forced to quit and, hopefully, you will join the ranks of the intolerants for a whole series of mental dynamics that takes too long to explain here. They are succeeding.

We are very close to that now: I estimate that in 3-4 years max smoking in public (streets included) will be made as illegal as hanging your penis out – REGARDLESS of the scientific arguments because, by then, it will be cultural; after all, we have in most of Canada the same thing for alcohol, right? Can’t be seen drinking, can’t show sealed beer packs on the car’s back seat! So we have a very small window of opportunity left to act by using science; after that, it will not matter anymore.''

[rovenstinez]

Then can we also BUTT OUT child pedaphiles in public restrooms.... and not give them their privacy to conduct sexual favors on each other?

[ColdWater]

We are very close to that now: I estimate that in 3-4 years max smoking in public (streets included) will be made as illegal as hanging your penis out –

Some smokers look like they have a limp one hanging out their mouth.

[Eric Blair 2084]

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[Doe Eyes]

I estimate that in 3-4 years max smoking (tobacco leaves) in public (streets included) will be made as illegal as

smoking marijuana leaves currently is. Too bad, so sad.

[Drango]

what physical harm can a man do to society if he walk down the street with his penis dangling out of his pants? None.

The smoking wars are over. Sure there are a few death rattles but the wars are over. Society can and will restrict where smoke or "hang your penis out".

[blackbart.223]

"Health Commissioner Thomas Farley announced yesterday he wants to ban smoking in public parks and city beaches as part of a plan to make New Yorkers healthier."

Would this apply to Obama? Mister heath still smokes as I understand.

[GOP_Lady]

Hello, Sir Eric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, I cannot think of a dignified way to express my feelings at the moment after reading this article.

Remind me not to go to NYC.

I detest CONTROL FREAKS.

[Lawgvr1955]

The problem non smokers and others will find out in due time is that when smokers quit paying the "sin" tax the government will have to replace the loss income with a tax on the non smoker in some form or fashion. Good reason to quit being for increasing taxes "that you never pay" because you don't use the item or service.

When the tax gets high enough on the item, people will quit using it and suddenly you are paying higher taxes and getting over your smugness.

[GOP_Lady]

I think there should be an excessively high tax on abortions.

[GOP_Lady]

STUFF IT, Drango.

[eXe]

Well.. from looking at how “well” the smoking ban in Nevada took hold.. society can TRY to restrict it.. lol but for the most part the people ignore it.

The smoking wars are far from over.. and the more the smoke Nazis push, the more people become “over it” and do as they please.

[boop]

Too bad you can’t have sex in public restrooms. So sorry.

[murphE]

He’s a mad man.

[trumandogz]

It’s not the whiff of smoke in the air but rather the butts that smokers carelessly dispose of in the streets, parks, beeches, lakes, sidewalks, trails, etc.

Make it simple just bust those who toss their butts on the ground with littering.

[Rebelbase]

I don’t agree with the smoking part, but I definitely don’t want you “hanging your penis out” anywhere around me or my family.

[takenoprisoner]

"Health Commissioner Thomas Farley announced yesterday he wants to ban smoking in public parks and city beaches as part of a plan to make New Yorkers healthier."

It's nearly impossible for them to catch and apprehend predators in the parks, but I'd wager they can catch and fine nearly all smokers.

[GOP_Lady]

Hubby and I were in Vegas a few weeks ago.

Hubby was actually allowed to enjoy a cigar with his Crown Royal with other like-minded adults while listening to live jazz being played on dualing pianos.

It was heaven being away from CONTROL FEAKS.

We’ll be going back again in November.

[trumandogz]

The smoking wars are over.

Their only hope now is to have smokers classified as disabled under the Americans for Disabilities Act.

[mojo114]

Bloomberg is a hugh nanny state guy. He is trying to make NYC into a European city. The funny part is that people smoke like crazy in Europe, outside, inside all around the town.
Bring back Rudy. Since Rudy left as mayor, we don’t visit NYC as much as we did because NYC has gone down hill. When Rudy was there it was much cleaner and no pan handlers.

[mylife]

You jerks took all the public ashtrays away and where they do exist they are stuffed full of fast food paper making them unusable as ashtrays.

[GOP_Lady]

Nice language, he has there, isn’t it?

The people in the champagne/cigar bar that hubby and I were in in Vegas a few weeks ago had more decorum.

[Drango]

illegal as hanging your penis out

[mylife]

Yeah, them ciggie butts are a REAL problem.

Unlike all the other crap society tosses on the ground.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Is it okay to force anti-smoking activists to suck my b*lls on a public street?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

[GOP_Lady]

Like I said, the people in the champagne/cigar bar in Vegas that I socialized with had more decorum. DISIGUSWTING. Try making your point in a more suitable fashion.

[mylife]

Dickheads Cause Statism

[Eric Blair 2084]

The smoking wars are over. Sure there are a few death rattles but the wars are over. Society can and will restrict where smoke or "hang your penis out".

It sure does look that way right now. Using lies, big media, science by press release and citizens prejudice it appears smokers are indeed finished. Than again, stranger things have happened. Who knows?

I could imagine another statist writing during the Prohibition years:

The drinking wars are over. Sure there are a few death rattles but the wars are over. Society can and will restrict alcohol or "hang your penis out".

But I digress. If you ever go anywhere Drango, I'll be upset. It's nice to have a punching bag around. You stalk me all the time. I don't mind. You are obviously just desperate for help and I'm here to provide it.

I'm here to help you and provide a public service for a fee. I am a fully trained psychologist specializing in Nanny State Behavior Syndrome (NSBS). This liberal, left wing, social engineering disease is horrible and can strike anyone at anytime. It can even strike Conservatives who believe in free markets and limited government.

Thankfully, Dr. Feel (a wholly owned subsiduary of Dr. Phil) is here to help you work through your problems.

Please answer the questionaire below, so I know how best to treat you. And please have your insurance card ready for the wallet biopsy. This is a Capitalist country and I don't work for free.

I discriminate against smokers because:

A. The smell of smoke is icky and yucky, it makes my hair and clothes stink and I hate walking into a bar/restaurant where people are smoking. So rather than take advantage of the free market and go somewhere that is voluntarily smoke free, I would rather use the power of the state to impose my personal preference on my fellow citizens.

A1. My __________ (choose one: Dad, Mom, Uncle, Aunt, Grandfather, Grandmother, older sister, brother, babysitter, next door neighbor, mailman) abused me by smoking ________(choose one: Marlboro, Merit, Kool, crack, Camel, Kent, marijuana) in the __________ (choose one: house, car, bar, juvenile detention center) when I was a kid.

B. My beloved ___________ (choose one: husband, wife, father, mother, brother, sister, nephew, niece, uncle, aunt, maid, dog, cat, goldfish, gay lover) died from _________(choose one: cancer, heart disease, emphysema, car crash, train wreck, terrorist attack, sting ray) because of their smoking.

C. I smoked for _____ (years) and now I am ________ (choose one: missing it, sick, dead, born again, enlightened, ashamed of myself, if I can't do it, nobody can) and want to share my experience with others.

D. The Big Tobacco companies are lying scumbags and must pay! (you're not coming down off the mountain with the tablets there)

E. I represent Big Pharmaceutical interests that benefit from the anti-smoking movement because it increases the sales of our Nicotine Replacement Therapy (NRT) products.

F. I am a deeply caring individual in the mold of Mother Theresa and I am speaking out due to my benevolent, philanthropic, altruistic concern about the health of my fellow man.

G. I am a research scientist and grant junky, and if I don't tow the party line my grant money will disappear.

H. I'm just a garden variety Fascist and Totalitarian and get a ______ (choose one: cheap thrill, natural high, erection, orgasm) by imposing my will on other people.

I. I am a retard who believes in bogus studies, junk science, the Easter Bunny and the Toothfairy. I fear that because I walked into a bar on Spring Break in 1987, and was exposed to Second Hand Smoke I now suffer from ______(choose one: AIDS, Herpes, Athletes Foot, Jock Itch, male pattern baldness, or genital warts)

J. I am a disgruntled, prissy and angry employee of a ______(choose one: bar, restaurant, club, casino) who can't leave the job because I am a _______(choose one: slave, indentured servant, sweatshop laborer, illegal immigrant) and had no idea there was smoking going on in the place before I took the job.

K. An elected public serpent, serving as a _____ (choose one: State Assemblywoman, Senator, Freeholder, city councilman, mayor) and I have failed miserably in my job and trying to tackle really tough problems like _____ (choose one: gang violence, income taxes, property taxes, crime, corruption), so I will support a smoking ban based on the talking points and literature that "M" has given me and claim that I have actually accomplished something to help my constituents.

L. A Socialist liberal Democrat who is desperate for Universal Healthcare so the proletariet will continue to keep me in power. But if I don't do something about the "demand side" health care costs caused by such global health menaces as _________ (choose one: Marlboro, Merit, Kool, Big Macs, Whoppers, Chicken McNuggets, Budweiser, Coors, Jack Daniels) my health care entitlement program will go ________ (choose your adjective: broke, belly up, bankrupt, insolvent).

M. A professional anti-tobacco activist who makes $450,000 per year. MY GOAL IS TO REDUCE SMOKING RATES FROM 25% TO BELOW 10%. KICKING THEM OUT OF THEIR FAVORITE BAR AND RESTAURANT IS JUST A SMALL STEP TO COERCE THEM TO QUIT. I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THE SHS NONSENSE MYSELF! Don't you dare try to ban cigarettes, if you do I will have to go back to my previous job ______(choose one: prostitute, drug dealer, pimp, state assemblyman, mayor) where I won't make nearly as much money and the bank will foreclose on my seaside villa and repo my _______(choose one: Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, Hummer, Infiniti, Acura,Jaguar, Volvo, Bentley). I take advantage of the prejudices of categories A-L above to accomplish my goal.

N. I am a Religious Fundamentalist who believes that smoking is strictly forbidden in the ______(choose one: Qu'ran, Bible, Torah, Old Testament, New Testament, David Wells' autobiography "Perfect I'm Not", Hustler Magazine)

O. I don't fit any of the above categories, I just like to argue with people.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

And THAT’s why people smoke AFTER sex. Now go away.

[GOP_Lady]

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[blackbart.223]

"What physical harm can a man do to society if he walk down the street with his penis dangling out of his pants?"

I would posit any man in public exposing his unit poses a very real threat.

[mylife]

(A message from the NHS)

Gee, wouldn’t it be swell if we could be like the UK?

If only the founders had know how the American people were going to “feel” They could have avoided a lot of trouble.

[Mr_Moonlight]

Remind me not to go to NYC.

You will be *GLARED AT* (according to the Health Commissioner) ... well maybe not even for smoking, but most likely for just being you -- a GOP_Lady!!! -- (can't have those bitter clingers here in the Big Apple!)

/laughs

Still, the Pizza here is pretty good ... best in the world even :)

[TigersEye]

Plow up the parks and plant them in tobacco. We need the jobs. We need the revenue.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Why do you care how other mens penises work?

When they don't work, how does that make you feel?

[Mr_Moonlight]

Bloomberg is a hugh nanny state guy. He is trying to make NYC into a European city. The funny part is that people smoke like crazy in Europe, outside, inside all around the town.

News Flash: NYC's smoking *ban* is just as ineffective here as well. People smoke everywhere in spite of the ban, and security just turns a blind eye to it. It's a complete joke.

[GOP_Lady]

Not Cool	Cool
Daddy Bloomberg

[TigersEye]

Is it okay to force anti-smoking activists to suck my b*lls on a public street?

It's OK with me. You can dispose of wannabe tyrants in public dumpsters too for all I care.

[GOP_Lady]

I work in the largest building between NYC and Chicago.

A person who was offended by someone smoking outside of the building called the Ohio Smoking Snitch Line.

The County Health Department came out, of course.

That’s how I like my public officials’ time and and tax money being spent, especially when the city, county and state are running deficits.

Then, a lady with whom my husband works snitched on my hubby for smoking a cigar in the company car when she wasn’t even in it. AND she got the car THREE WEEKS after my husband last used it. She is just trying to stir up trouble.

[mylife]

Bloomy doesnt give a crap about smoking.

He cares about TAXES and FINES

Gov (Good Hair) Rick Perry^R Just jacked my tobacco from $28 to $38 in the past 2 weeks. (He couldn't let Obama get all the taxes) Perry's last Executive order will be to rename the state "Taxes" vice Texas

[mojo114]

We only live 1 hour from the city, in CT.
Bloomberg is trying to make everyone into smoker police. He is a very wealthy and dangerous person IMHO.

[GOP_Lady]

Don’t you mean ...

Up your nose with a CIGAR?

[GOP_Lady]

Control freaks are indeed VERY DANGEROUS.

[GOP_Lady]

"I simply turn on the Golden EIB Microphone and share my honest passions and beliefs with people. And they're free to go elsewhere. They're free to ignore; they're free to believe; they're free to be entertained, I don't care. They're free to do whatever they want. But a lot of people aren't free to smoke cigarettes where they want; they're not free to drink where they want; they're not free to eat the kind of food they want to eat; they're not free to eat trans fats; they're not free to drive certain places. Pretty soon we're going to be told what kind of cars we have to drive. I can't cause that. I can't restrict anybody's freedom. We've elected a guy who can, does, and wants to, all under the guise of saving us. So I appreciate the effort, and I appreciate somewhat losing my temper here. But don't compare me ever to an authoritarian who thinks so little of people that without him they can barely breathe on their own. Don't ever do that." LEARN IT, LOVE IT, LIVE IT! If one cannot understand Rush's words above, then one does not truly understand FREEDOM!

[Mr_Moonlight]

Bloomie’s problem is that as a former smoker, he WANTS ONE SO BADLY ... and so he imposes this ban on a city of 8 million citizens just so that he doesn’t have to see anyone enjoying a habit that he wants so badly to get back to

[Eric Blair 2084]

You hit the nail on the head Madame GOP.

These Statists are going about this whole anti tobacco thing the wrong way. Half of every HS and college kids I meet are smoking. They are sexting or have nude pics on facebook. These are the chilruns the antis want to protect. Now they just abuse prescription drugs from Big Pharma instead of smoking. They have rebelled against them.

If they want to stop kids from smoking they will get the geekiest biggest authoritarian a-holes like Drango and Michael Bloomberg together for a PSA...

They can just look into the camera and say...

“Hi, I’m Drango and I’m Mayor Mike Bloomberg, I’m rich. If you want to be cool like us, smoke ______ (fill in the blank cig brand).

I guarantee no kid ever smokes again.

[ladyjane]

I was out in some national parks last week. There were a lot of smokers there, mostly Europeans, and a lot of cigarette butts on the ground. It was a shame to be out in the middle of nowhere and find butts on the trail.

[GOP_Lady]

But Sir Eric, but Sir Eric (following the “COOL” One’s lead) ...

Can they still abort children in NYC?

[Drango]