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George W. Bush to Conservative Movement: Drop Dead
American Spectator ^ | SEPTEMBER 16, 2009 | W. James Antle, III

Posted on 09/16/2009 9:30:43 AM PDT by RobinMasters

At least that's how the 43rd president is quoted in a new book by one of his speechwriters, as reported by Byron York.

Bush was preparing to give a speech to the annual meeting of the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC. The conference is the event of the year for conservative activists; Republican politicians are required to appear and offer their praise of the conservative movement.

[Speechless: Tales of a White House Survivor author Matt] Latimer got the assignment to write Bush's speech. Draft in hand, he and a few other writers met with the president in the Oval Office. Bush was decidedly unenthusiastic.

"What is this movement you keep talking about in the speech?" the president asked Latimer.

Latimer explained that he meant the conservative movement -- the movement that gave rise to groups like CPAC.

Bush seemed perplexed. Latimer elaborated a bit more. Then Bush leaned forward, with a point to make.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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1 posted on 09/16/2009 9:30:43 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 09/16/2009 9:31:41 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Sorry. No sale.


3 posted on 09/16/2009 9:32:31 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: RobinMasters

BS, pure and simple...


4 posted on 09/16/2009 9:34:14 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: RobinMasters

Bush is not an idiot. He knows that “whupping” Gary Bauer was not a great accomplishment. I very much doubt that this conversation took place.


5 posted on 09/16/2009 9:34:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: RobinMasters

Bush is a politician, just like Obama. “Movements” be they conservative or leftist are just a means to an end: more power.


6 posted on 09/16/2009 9:34:42 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: RobinMasters

This “speech writer” has already been revealed for what he is.


7 posted on 09/16/2009 9:34:46 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: RobinMasters

If so... Bush forgets who elected his “ass” to two terms.


8 posted on 09/16/2009 9:34:50 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: RobinMasters
Obviously, all of this should be taken with a pillar of salt. We don't know for a fact that Bush said this.

AS says this but then repeats it.

I am irritated by third level speech writers getting so must attention.

9 posted on 09/16/2009 9:35:37 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: RobinMasters
Who knows whether this is true.

But given the guy's decidedly moderate tone in office and his dad's political antipathy towards Reagan its not hard to believe.

Wouldn't make him a bad guy, just not conservative.

10 posted on 09/16/2009 9:35:37 AM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: subterfuge

Bush’s governance ALONE cemented the FACT he is no conservative.


11 posted on 09/16/2009 9:36:19 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Russ

The complete disgreard Bush showed to conservatives, in well everything (except invading Iraq) demonstrates that he believed this.

I have no doubt he thought very little of conservatives


12 posted on 09/16/2009 9:36:19 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: RobinMasters

BS! Not buying this for a second.


13 posted on 09/16/2009 9:37:10 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: RobinMasters

I don’t need some book to tell me Bush was no conservative. His actions speak for themselves.


14 posted on 09/16/2009 9:38:11 AM PDT by oldvike
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To: RobinMasters

This will get him on MSNBC.


15 posted on 09/16/2009 9:38:29 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: subterfuge

I agree. Eight years of W bashing was plenty. I’m trying to stop myself.


16 posted on 09/16/2009 9:39:29 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: RobinMasters
Draft in hand, he (Latimer) and a few other writers met with the president in the Oval Office.

It seems nobody from the Bush admin knows who Latimer is.

(On bogus NewsMax Article): First on the Ticker: Bush, Palin aide disputes book claims.

Recher said. "Nobody knows who he is. When people heard he was writing a book the most common reaction has been, 'Who?'"

Bwahaha

17 posted on 09/16/2009 9:39:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MadIsh32

If it’s true, and I doubt it is, I’d respect Bush even more for saying it. We shouldn’t be creating “movements” that are just about cementing power for our side. Leaders should be using political capital to get government out of the people’s lives and take government’s powers away. The democrats are the party that’s only interested in cementing their power. Let’s beat them by being for the people.


18 posted on 09/16/2009 9:40:23 AM PDT by jyoders19
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To: jyoders19

“Leaders should be using political capital to get government out of the people’s lives and take government’s powers away”

Which is the exact opposite of what GWB did.

He used conservative rhetoric and then completely did the opposite


19 posted on 09/16/2009 9:42:15 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: subterfuge
I'm glad that the author of this piece followed up with, "Obviously, all of this should be taken with a pillar of salt". Otherwise I would have had to say BS to him too.
20 posted on 09/16/2009 9:43:11 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: oldvike

I don’t need some book to tell me Bush was no conservative. His actions speak for themselves.

President Bush was the right man for the right time .... I will never deny that. Our nations security is in debt for his steadfastness.

However, I agree 100% with you. and .. I would never vote for him again. Compassionate conservatism and the entire bush family ... we saw Herbert Walker in action as well ... don’t want any part of it.


21 posted on 09/16/2009 9:43:53 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: RobinMasters
Whether these exact quotations are true or not it is still certain that George W. Bush was no friend to conservatives.

He furthered entitlements, affirmative action, Mohammedan immigration into the U.S, and the nanny state across the board.

After tremendously successful military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq he gave the Army the impossible task of building Western styled governments in both countries. We should have written their constitutions and installed strongmen and gotten out with the threat of going back in to break up stuff again if/when the terrorist-supporting Mohammedans take over.

22 posted on 09/16/2009 9:44:47 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Captain Kirk

We knew from the start Bush was not a movement conservative. He never defend conservatives principles to the extend Reagan did. Reagan was a movement leader


23 posted on 09/16/2009 9:45:08 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: RobinMasters
Yikes!

A politician is exposed as being....A Politician first and not really that concerned about ideology after it has served to get him elected.

Shocking!

My reaction to this is Meh or maybe Feh.

24 posted on 09/16/2009 9:45:52 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: RobinMasters

I’m not buying this. The writer has Bush saying a lot of crap that I just don’t believe he’s going to say. It reminds me of that movie hit piece CBS wanted to air about President Reagan.


25 posted on 09/16/2009 9:47:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (This Revolution will be peaceful if possible; other than peaceful if necessary.)
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To: Boiling Pots

Maybe so but I sure would like to have him back for another term.


26 posted on 09/16/2009 9:49:47 AM PDT by beckysueb (Hey Obama, get out of Sarahs' house!)
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To: RobinMasters

Maybe at one time he did, maybe he didn’t.

But he sure was thinking it.

Have some forgotten his arrogance about Harriet Miers or the Shamnesty initiative?


27 posted on 09/16/2009 9:51:26 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: RobinMasters

Latimer loves Obama....as he said in the WP recently:

“Obama is smarter than this. On the campaign trail, his speeches, in clear, coherent English...... Even some of us in the Bush White House studied Obama’s speeches and marveled at their grace.”


28 posted on 09/16/2009 9:53:44 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( Reagan said, "When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.")
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To: subterfuge

I agree. While Bush was not to good on some domestic policies; I don’t think he would say these things. Maybe this author should be investigated as to where his roots are.


29 posted on 09/16/2009 9:53:45 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Not too good on some domestic policy initiatives?

The ONLY things he got right were Judge Roberts and tax cuts

That is IT

Everything else, domestically, was a complete liberal wet dream disaster


30 posted on 09/16/2009 9:54:48 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: RobinMasters
“What we have here is a failure to communicate” from the movie “Cool Hand Luke” or was it “Hud” with Paul Newman?

What we have here ... is Republicans that apparently are only slightly less socialist that the liberals, and progressives, are.

It is almost impossible to tell the difference with the rino’s, or the weak, old, gray haired men that have little chance of impassioning voters .

..Yes, I am cynical.. Sorry.

That is why voters were so happy, and hopeful when Sarah Palin stepped on stage. She is our best hope. IF ... we can coalesce behind her.

God help us on our day, in Jesus name, Amen.

31 posted on 09/16/2009 9:56:44 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: RobinMasters
Tell me more!


32 posted on 09/16/2009 10:01:47 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: RobinMasters

There are three kinds of lies:

Lies
Damn lies
Tell all books (Statistics).


33 posted on 09/16/2009 10:02:31 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: RobinMasters
I suppose that would explain why he didn't close the borders...

Μολὼν λάβε


34 posted on 09/16/2009 10:06:40 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: edge10

http://www.podiumpundits.com/2009/09/16/the-speechwriter-as-gossipmonger/

.....one of the most warmed-over clichés about the Bush Administration: “[Chris Michel] was usually chipper, though at the moment his face was so pale he must have been the whitest man in the Bush White House. And that was no small accomplishment.”

Yowza! Republicans are white and out of touch. That’s fresh.

But wait, there’s more in that vein. Describing a previous job on Capitol Hill, Latimer writes: “I was assigned to coach Republican senators on how to reach out to the media and entertainment world. (You try explaining The View to a group of 65-year-old white Republican men.)”

Hah – ‘cause they’re white and men and old – they probably smell like Ben-Gay. And they’re clueless. White men are incapable of understanding four women who sit around a table and talk to each other on TV.

How could a hipster like Latimer possibly have muddled through?


35 posted on 09/16/2009 10:09:20 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( Reagan said, "When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.")
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To: roses of sharon
I'm flabbergasted (truly) that a political speech writer would listen to a speech from Obama and conclude that Obama is smart, a master of coherent English, and a graceful writer.

Hey! Buddy! Obama's speeches are written by -- get this! -- a professional speech writer!

36 posted on 09/16/2009 10:09:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: RobinMasters
 
"..So take out all this movement stuff. There is no movement."
--George W Bush
 
Oh re-he-heeallly?
 
 
CAN YOU HEAR US NOW, W?

37 posted on 09/16/2009 10:13:14 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Boiling Pots
Bush’s governance ALONE cemented the FACT he is no conservative.

Indeed.

38 posted on 09/16/2009 10:16:19 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 238 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

From what I have read this guy was/is upset that Republicans are too white, too hetro, don’t watch the “View”...his parents are staunch liberals.

Sounds like another “Republican” trying to “grow the party” by kissing MSM arse, and becomming more like Dims.

Is he gay? Or in love with Megan McCain? lol!


39 posted on 09/16/2009 10:18:52 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( Reagan said, "When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.")
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To: RobinMasters

Lets see...

Bush was pro-illegal alien...and valued the rights of illegal aliens over the rights of American citizens....and tried to give them amnesty...including illegal alien gang members (as in the Amnesty Bill)

Bush refused to seal the Mexican border after 9/11 (but blocked the Canadian)...and Bush kept telling us “Islam is a religion of peace” after the 9/11 attacks (even FDR did not call “Nazi’s are a party of peace” during WW II)

Bush was pro-Communist China....and cowered to them when they hijacked one of our US military planes early in his first administration....Bush was also so Free Trade with Communist China that he allowed the trade deficit to grow to trillions during his admin.

Buxsh allowed two Border Patrol agents to sit in jail...based on the word of an illegal alien drug dealer. They were given commuted sentences, and not pardoned. Bush valued the rights of drug-lord run Mexico over that of the USA

Hmm...I think this speechwriter is right. Bush was no conservative


40 posted on 09/16/2009 10:19:27 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (America is still great....no matter what Globalists, Communists, Anti-Birthers, Terrorists think)
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To: RobinMasters

In 20 years the left will be propping Bush up for all of the liberal things he did as a contrast to contemporary right wingers.

The left praised Reagan as a contrast to GWB 20 years later.


41 posted on 09/16/2009 10:20:34 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: HiramQuick
President Bush was the right man for the right time .... I will never deny that. Our nations security is in debt for his steadfastness.

That's a funny turn of phrase, given our nation's current economic situation and Bush's involvement in it.

Regardless, Bush did little besides creating another huge bureaucracy to meddle in our lives.

42 posted on 09/16/2009 10:20:38 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: skeeter
You obviously don't know the meaning of the word "conservative". No president, not even Reagan, did more to promote and support Life, the family and this country than Bush. He pushed back the environmentalists, created a an actual agency within the government to support religious NGOs and established the "Abstinence Only" program. He also vetoed the stem cell bill and put two solid conservatives in the Supreme Court.

This new drumbeat that he's no conservative is right out of the DNC. That makes you either a shill or a retard.

43 posted on 09/16/2009 10:26:08 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: RobinMasters

I see one posting of this garbage wasn’t enough.


44 posted on 09/16/2009 10:27:02 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
>>That's a funny turn of phrase, given our nation's current economic situation
>>and Bush's involvement in it.
 
True. Try as I might to like and respect W as a Christian and a person, it will always be within contextual recognition of this corrupting relationship...
 
 

45 posted on 09/16/2009 10:35:06 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Deb
Who was Roland Arnall?
 
One can be a conservative, or one can be a carpetbagger; but one can not be a conservative carpetbagger.
 
Instead of stroking his "Special Relationship" (nudge nudge wink wink), maybe W should have spent more time considering WHY the American Declaration of Independance was written in the first place.
 
 
Did he ever once look out the White House window and ponder why Thomas Jefferson was glaring back at him?
 
 

46 posted on 09/16/2009 10:50:06 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: roses of sharon

Your post says it all. Thanks.


47 posted on 09/16/2009 10:50:46 AM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Deb

It is never enough for the self-righteous on here.


48 posted on 09/16/2009 10:57:11 AM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: RobinMasters
No one can verify the veracity of this claim but Bush's neglect of his base that got him elected particularly in his second term is what made that term so rough and cold for him.

And it damaged the GOP markedly with consequences yet to be determined today such as Romney versus Palin...same groups pitted once again and throw a Huckster in the mix.

Overall I give Bush a C+ as a right winger and yes he was far better than a Democrat but sometimes his political correctness tone and using that against his base was just poor instinct and maybe naive.

He will probably be remembered more like Truman than Grant...two Presidents very unpopular when they left but both later redeemed but the former as a POTUS and the latter as a General.

I supported Bush very heavily time wise and money wise and there are threads here with my mug marching on his behalf but he really really vexed me over Miers and Immigration more than anything.

dead horse now though.,..we have a genuine foe to deal with now...the anti-Christ for all intensive purposes

49 posted on 09/16/2009 11:01:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (I could care less if you think I am a racist...really...just try to defend your position.)
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To: Deb
Conservatism's cornerstone should be the conservation of the American Ideals cast in stone upon the Jefferson Memorial:
 
 
"I PLEDGE UPON THE ALTER OF GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--Thomas Jefferson

50 posted on 09/16/2009 11:04:12 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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