The same (alledgedly corrupt, 'bought off') Judge in Florida that was instrumental in Terri Schiavo's death, U.S. District Judge Richard A. Lazzara, ruled against a soldier last month on a similar topic 
Maj. Stefan Cook, U.S. Army Reserve
Posted on 09/15/2009 2:26:29 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater
-An affidavit and (very real looking) hospital birth record from Kenya's Coast Province Hospital,
-A (very real looking) birth certificate from Kenya'a Coast Province for Barack Hussein Obama II,
-The nagging reminder that Obama's Hawaiian 'Certificate of Live Birth' was printed with a laserprinter after November 2001 (see the bottom left corner),
-Recent discovery that (before 1972) the Hawaiian territory allowed foreigners to register births there using the COLB form.
-A recent discovery that the DNC avoided certifying to the 50 states that Obama was eligible under the Constition,
Ping.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
ping please
Orly Taitz will make a fine Attorney General once the election is declared null and void and Oabama and Bennie Holder are in prison along with Pelosi and all of the other enablers.
PING
When I first heard about the allegations, I thought it was tin foil hat stuff, until I found out that Obama spent up to one million in lawyer fees fighting the release of his birth certificate. For 12 bucks and a signature he could release his birth certificate and end the birther movement in one stroke. Instead he produces a COLB which also covers foreign born American babies when a regular BC could end this once and for all. Even my friends who voted for Obama, and are honest about it wonders why also. Americans produce their own BC for various reasons all the time, why is it so hard for Obama to do the same??!!!
Godspeed!
What pray tell is the plan if Obama produces the documents, and they are in good order before the court...
... except that Judge Carter actually didn’t order discovery. Orly misunderstood, again.
The same (alledgedly corrupt, 'bought off') Judge in Florida that was instrumental in Terri Schiavo's death, U.S. District Judge Richard A. Lazzara, ruled against a soldier last month on a similar topic Maj. Stefan Cook, U.S. Army Reserve
It looks real because it's a modified copy of a South Australian birth certificate in standard format of Australian birth certificates in general.
I can't speak for the other documents, but this one is definitely a fake in my view. I've seen a lot of Australian birth certificates over the years - and Kenyan ones are not similar to them.
I agree!
Orly Taitz WOULD make a great Attorney General! I heard a long interview she did... She grew up in Russia and lived under Obama-style socialism.
She’d be WONDERFUL for cleaning up this corruption!
However, first she will have to watch her back.
HUURRRAAAAAGGGHH!!!...;0)
If his documents are truly “in order” then we’ll shut up about the subject.
That’s a big “if”.
You are absolutely right - I know I have been screaming “Occam’s Razor” since before the election. Also, for the record, we should have certified copies of the original applications to his several universitites: Occidental (HA), Columbia College (NY) and Harvard Law. I graduated from Columbia and Harvard Business after working, Marine Corps, etc. Those schools wanted to know everything about my deceased father, my mother and me - hell, they wanted my blood type. Anyway, my point is that he probably applied as a foreign-born student for admission purposes as well as scholarships (I worked and paid my own way - of course it was much cheaper in those days.)
My guess is that in 30 days Obama will still be in the White House and Orly will still be shaking cash out of the birthers.
But wasn't this 'very real looking' birth certificate (the one on the red bedspread) shown to be a forgery?
Ha...you wish...
This was covered in detal on FR some weeks ago...
The Adelaide version is a fake copy of the 0bambi BC
Early Christmas? /Orly Christmas?
My guess is that you are right.
Don’t count on it BUT it sure would be loads of fun to watch the Libs go ape pooh if ozero were found to be an illegal poser president.
Hell, blacks the country over would go to war and the libs would have conniptions.
And just how is it that you are so much more knowledgeable about this matter than Dr. Taitz?
Have you ever earned a PhD? Are you aware of how intelligent, hard working and educated one must be to earn both a Medical Doctorate and a Law Degree, then pass both Board Diplomation and the Bar? Even remotely?
I'm just wondering. Your brazen assertion absent reference or qualification seems somehow hollow and more than just a little self-indulgent, don't you think?
Perhaps not...
;-/
No, it is not.
The Bomford certificate is genuine. All you people are doing by trying to claim a legitimate Australian birth certificate of exactly the same design as every other South Australian birth certificate of the period, and totally different to Kenyan birth certificates is a fake is making yourselves look like a bunch of dupes. Any claims you then make about anything else can be easily dismissed.
I have see HUNDREDS of Australian birth certificates in my life. I know what the things look like. I’m trying to stop you shooting yourselves in the foot. There are 20 million Australians who know what Australian birth certificates look like - a few million of them are South Australians.
Then we defeat his sorry maxrist ass in the 2010 elections and then kick his ass out of office in 2012.
Until then we fight his every move.
Make it uncomfortable for his every moment every day until he is out.
Then we hound him forever.
I guarantee ya, if I see bill clinton I boo. during the primaries he came to Sewells Point for a fundraiser at a pos lawyers home. The streets were lined with protesters with signs saying to protect your female folk as a known sexual pervert is coming to town.
I was there as If this marxist pos comes anywhere near I’ll be there protesting.
It is called free speech. And you know marxists do not like free speech especially when it denegrates them.
I was wondering when you would show up to try to undermine her efforts.
“When I first heard about the allegations, I thought it was tin foil hat stuff”
Scientists have affirmed that our initial gut reactions are the most reliable indicators of truth.
We can only Hope...
The SAME thing that would have happened if the traitorous, John "THE SNAKE" Kerry had released ALL of his medical records and shown to support his contention; he would have shut down in a NY minute the Swift Boat Vets for truth and all of us Nam Vets and others who doubted his veracity and more than likely, would have led to his winning the election
The question remains as to why did didn't?
I do not subscribe to the suggestion that this is a well-thought out plan by DEAR LEADER and his Chicago-thug minions to string this out to make the "birthers" appear like stark, raving, nut jobs and discredit them as well as Conservatives, in general.
What I think is that there is something VERY embarrassing on the BC which would be damaging to his character and the reason why he has resisted releasing it so forcefully.
so google Bomford BC
Might as well add Oprah along with them.
All I can say. Produce the documents.
I’m amazed that anyone even listens to her anymore.
I mean, how hard is it to pull an official looking document off the internet and ‘Photoshop’ it to look like something else.
Just give me a couple of hours, I can create up 10 different documents saying Obama was born in 10 different countries. Given enough time, I probably could make it look like he was born in China.
It’s my opinion that the Left creates these documents and floats them out to the general public in the hopes they get picked up by people on the Right, only to discredit them and the people who though they were legitimate in the process. Kind of like the “9/12 gathering photo” that was later shown to be of a different rally at a different time of year.
Obama’s policies will be enough for his undoing. His Health Care Plan and wealth redistribution schemes are highly unpopular and are legitimate reasons to vote his party out of office.
Don’t allow the Left to use “Birther crazy” to discredit the REAL issues.
“It looks real because it’s a modified copy of a South Australian birth certificate in standard format of Australian birth certificates in general.”
I think that is old news...The internet was flooded with
fakes, many produced by Obots to make the birthers out to be fools. There were even modified fakes of the fakes.
I have no opinion on the current Kenyan BC.
All that I have asked for is a Hawaiian BC that would look identical to this:
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/zczc3185/Birth_cert_coats_7c.jpg
When I see it, I will accept it and go my way.
It is just so strange that Obozo has ignored the request to release it.
He does not have one, or he is the most arrogant jerk in the world.
That is all anyone ever asked.
That's a weak arguement. So my certified copy of my Certificate of Live Birth from a hospital in California from 1950 looks similar, but could have been "modified"? Not possible.
Most hospital generated BC's have become pretty much identical over the decades and throughout the World.
The pertinent parts are: Hospital name; attending doctor or midwife (with signature); registrar name & date (with signature); and stamp of registration. Without those, everything else can be fraudulent, as has been tried to passed of as a CERTIFICATE. People forget that that simply computer generated document was a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth that Hawaii issued to anyone who wanted verification of ANY live birth.
Also, the Hawaiian authority said she had seen and verified a genuine copy of Obama's live birth. She did not say, nor has anyone else, said he was born in Hawaii.
Some of us may be reaching for straws to get rid of this Marxist, but why is he spending so much of his own money, not to mention having the AG Holder fight the release of his long form BC? And why won't this guy let us see his college records? No one knows anything about this present other than his co-written books, which anyone can write.
All that aside, obambi's history and associations are all about the most radical leftist, and yes, communist, associations.
This guy is simply another smooth-talking clinton type scum trying to push his communist agenda on us. Even clinton wasn't this radical.
Think Chicago. That's where he comes from - that's where he built his support. Have you ever seen the video excerpts of him supporting ACORN and such when he was running for Illinois state senator?
Bush was probably one of the most un-articulate presidents we ever had, but at least walk his talk, although he allowed to much socialism to progress.
Obambi is probably THE most articulate president we've encountered in decades, but what is his walk? Socialism. Marxism. Totalitarianism. I don't give one shit the color of his skin - he is killing our Nation (with the help of Reid and Pelosi).
Go for it.
I guess that would finally be out of the way, huh
Ping
Obambi is probably THE most articulate president we've encountered in decades[…]That would still be Reagan. He didn’t even need a teleprompter.
How is it that the item regarding Hawaii’s law is a “recent” discovery? We “birthers” here at FR knew about Hawaii’s COLB law problems over 18 months ago (at LEAST)...
Just goes to show that even FOX News did nothing on their own to investigate these things if they consider this a “new” revelation.
How infuriating!
The operative word is Americans.
The bottom line is the Bomford certificate looks exactly the same as a South Australian birth certificate of the period should. The alleged Obama certificate looks nothing like a Kenyan birth certificate of the period does.
Australian birth certificates have a basically standardised formula instantly recognisable to anybody who has ever had to inspect them. The precise appearance changes from time to time and state to state as different printers and different printing processes have been used, but the basic format has remained generally consistent for decades. During my time in the Royal Australian Navy, at one stage, one of my duties was reponsibility for inspecting the documents of potential recruits who were required to present their birth certificates for inspection. I'm now a teacher at a private school and we also keep copies of our students birth certificates on file. I know what Australian birth certificates look like. The Bomford certificate is a perfect example of a mid 1960s South Australian certificate as produced by the South Australian government printers (W.L. Hawes). This is not something that was exported overseas.
The alleged Obama certificate on the other hand looks nothing like any other Kenyan birth certificate anybody has been able to produce.
If someone showed you an American dollar bill which somebody had altered to have a picture of Queen Elizabeth II on it in place of George Washington, and had changed the words 'United States of America' to 'United Kingdom of Great Britain', do you think you'd believe for a moment you were looking at a genuine one pound sterling note? Of course not - well, that's the situation I am dealing with here.
The Bomford certificate looks like a South Australian birth certificates. The alleged Obama certificate does not like a genuine Kenyan birth certificate - it looks like an altered South Australian one.
We’ll just keep hittin’ that “Hill” till we take it...;0)
You're ill-informed. She is using her own money for this. She is fighting a fight that you and every American citizen should support.
Obama, just show us your bona fides to be the President of the United States of America and the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces.
This is not rocket science. Just publish your long form Certificate of Live Birth. We The People will then let it go and accept you as our legitimate President and even say we're sorry for questioning you. What the hell are you hiding Barry?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2339872/posts
Or ... you can read the following from http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/breaking-news-expedited-discovery.html
Two days ago the Court issued a standard form order -- the one Judge Carter uses in every case, setting in standard form language the conference to schedule discovery for October 5th, but encouraging the parties to VOLUNTARILY commence discovery before that. This is the STANDARD FORM used in EVERY CASE. (I know I already said that, but I wanted to reiterate it.)Take your pick.Orly had already filed a motion for early discovery and TODAY Judge Carter ruled -- and I attach his two sentence order for you to read yourself-- that the motion be referred to the magistrate for initial consideration, and vacated a hearing previously set before Judge Carter for next week to consider the matter.
So....Magistrate Judge Nakazato may rule on expediting discovery later in September, but NO such order has yet been made, and NO discovery can be conducted absent voluntary assent from all sides, until after the scheduling conference on October 5th.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, and as I say, don't take my word on that, read the court's order yourself...its only two sentences.
You don't know me. So your nasty, hateful, snide comments are uncalled for. Before you call out someone on an issue about which you know very little, go do some research. It's painfully obvious that Orly misunderstood the judge's order.
As far as Orly's degrees are concerned, they're worth very little if she can't follow the basic rules of civil procedure, which is a first-year law school class.
At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution,
the definition of natural born citizen, combined both principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Emmerich Vattel, Law of Nations, § 212. Of the citizens and natives
I’m sure President Obama will find a judge somewhere to block this.
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