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Fla. police: No credible threat to runaway convert
Associated Press ^ | Sept. 14, 2009

Posted on 09/14/2009 3:35:27 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder, has the filth of Islam changed standard operating procedures and practices?

Considering, Islam being a military and quasi-political movement that camouflages itself as a religion. However, as with Dictatorships, Fascism and Communism or other such command and control systems, a social tool is used to stealthily control the populace. Americans are deliberately misled regarding this extremist movement disguised as a religion; should be banned on its face due to the primary tenets of hate and violation of codified laws applied to any individual/group behavior which declares and promotes violence, advocates unlawful activity among members and conducts business activities in violation of Civil, Human and Constitutional Rights.

Think of the Koran and Surras as a Middle Eastern version of “art of war.” There is “no social redeeming value” in either Islam or Koran!


21 posted on 09/14/2009 3:52:36 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think almost any court in the US would emancipate a 17 year old girl who presents any reasonable argument and can provide evidence that she will not become a financial burden on the community.

Heck, someone should marry her. She is over the age of consent in most states. For that matter she would already be a grandmother in some islamic countries.


22 posted on 09/14/2009 3:52:57 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Probably created by the sleazy “pastor” who trolls teen chat rooms for troubled young girls. He harbored this adolescent runaway in his home for 2 weeks without notifying any authorities anywhere that he had her, and he may very well have encouraged her to run away and come to his home.

Now, just what justification do you have to say that?

23 posted on 09/14/2009 3:53:00 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: DallasDeb

Ya, - very clever I think ....


24 posted on 09/14/2009 3:54:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The legal system being what it is, I’m sure this can be tied up in the courts until she turns 18


25 posted on 09/14/2009 3:55:25 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Whoever falls away from faith in Islam commits — from an Islamic perspective — an unforgivable sin. He takes himself away from Allah, his owner — which is theft — and weakens the Islamic state, an action branded as revolt or insurrection. He who falls away from Islam must, according to the Sharia, be prosecuted, taken into custody by force, and called on to repent. If necessary, his return is to be “helped” along with torture. He who does not embrace Islam again has, according to the Sharia, forfeited his life and is to be put to death by the state. According to the daily paper, Al Alam, King Hassan II of Morocco, who is also the imam of his country, presented the following state of affairs before a human rights commission on May 15, 1990

In this case the state is her father.

They have killed her. God help her!


26 posted on 09/14/2009 3:56:23 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: applpie

Yup - that’s bureaucracy for ya. And according to a major political party, we need more of it. In fact, we need fascism to save our economy and our health care industry.


27 posted on 09/14/2009 3:57:55 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No credible threat? Who are the authorities consulting, CAIR?


28 posted on 09/14/2009 3:57:57 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: fso301

She needs to get a new idenity. Believers will hunt her
down and gain honor by killing her. Why is this cult allowed in our country?


29 posted on 09/14/2009 4:03:08 PM PDT by jusduat (probably lost)
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To: DallasDeb

The girls parents probably aren’t angels either, but this self-employed pastor of the grandiosely-named “Global Revolution Church” is plenty sketchy and was in serious violation of quite a few laws when he harbored this minor runaway without notifying authorities. He had plenty of motivation to try to create the appearance that there had been threats on her life, and he also had plenty of familiarity with operating on youth-oriented social networking sites.


30 posted on 09/14/2009 4:04:58 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: the anti-liberal
I'm thinking the same thing. If she ends up 'honor killed,' what will they say? "Oops, sorry"?

They're the police. What do you think they'll say?

I think they'll say, "It's doughnut-eating time!"

31 posted on 09/14/2009 4:08:58 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: DallasDeb; GovernmentShrinker
Now, just what justification do you have to say that? .

Justification What for? You can usually rely on GovernmentShrinker to call for more involvement by "the authorities".

32 posted on 09/14/2009 4:09:34 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's ACORN" - pace Auric Goldfinger)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The probe found no reports of threats against Bary in Florida or Ohio.

No kidding.

Who besides the girl would have called the cops to report it?

Chances are she didn't report it to the cops. Expecting to be taken by force to her home country, she skedaddled. So there is no report.

Now, since then, everyone has been notified of the threat, but somehow that doesn't count.

She is old enough to be an emancipated minor anywhere in the country. There is no excuse to drag this out. She should, seriously, go underground for the next few months until she is of age. Never trust your life or your freedom to a judge if you don't have to. They have their agenda, you have yours. When someone is using the law to kill you, you have to make your own arrangements.

33 posted on 09/14/2009 4:12:39 PM PDT by marron
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To: Dacula
"She's dead Harry. Wrapped in plastic."


34 posted on 09/14/2009 4:13:30 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The “authorities” will be smug if the girl does, in fact, get killed by her family. They will have preserved ethnic diversity.


35 posted on 09/14/2009 4:13:57 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them.

Don’t let them send her back. Contact the Governor on his website.

5000 honor killings per year world wide.


36 posted on 09/14/2009 4:26:28 PM PDT by CalTexan
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To: GovernmentShrinker

There is recent history of Muslims killing family members, as well as explicit teaching in their religion instructing them to kill family members, who convert away from Islam.

Is there a recent history of this pastor doing any such thing?

Or do you just dislike Christianity so much that you are siding with murderers?


37 posted on 09/14/2009 4:28:25 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“This heart-wrenching story comes out of Yemen, but unfortunately the issue of child brides is very common in the Islamic world. They are even on the rise in the UK.

What makes matters even worse is that Islam allows pedophilia, as Mohammad himself was a pedophile. Mohammad’s third wife Aisha was just a little girl herself.

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

Narrated Aisha: “The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.”

Yeah, that pastor who sheltered this girl just MUST be a real scumbag! That’s the only obvious conclusion /s


38 posted on 09/14/2009 4:30:15 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Harboring minor runaways without notifying law enforcement or some other authorities is a bad idea. Not all teenage runaways are who they say they are, or running away for the reasons they say they’re running away. Making a habit of actively engaging teenager girls via the Internet when you’re an older adult male, and *then* secretly harboring one in your home after she has run away, is a double red flag.

I’m sure something is seriously wrong at her parents home — whether they’re really threatening to physically abuse or kill her, or something else — but that doesn’t translate into an automatic assumption that the pastor who harbored her for 2 weeks is an innocent Good Samaritan. Ohio law enforcement and courts are in a much better position to determine the nature and seriousness of the problem at the girl’s home and mosque. Florida is simply turning the case over to Ohio jurisdiction, which it would almost certainly have been compelled to do by a federal court anyway. It’s unlikely that an Ohio court will send the girl back to live with her parents if she tells caseworkers there a consistent story about why she fears returning to her family. She’s 17 and wouldn’t be difficult to place in foster care.


39 posted on 09/14/2009 4:31:14 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: keats5

You can bet that if they guessed wrong, and she “disappears”, the MSM will bury the story. Though Fox News will no doubt report it.


40 posted on 09/14/2009 4:33:43 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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