Posted on 09/10/2009 9:42:21 PM PDT by RobinMasters
NEW YORK – A government that is constitutionally required to offer each citizen a "useful" job in the farms or industries of the nation.
A country whose leadership intercedes to ensure every farmer can sell his product for a good return.
A nation that has the power to act against "unfair competition" and monopolies in business.
This is not a description of Cuba, communist China, or the USSR until 1991. It's the vision of the future of the U.S, as mandated by a radical new "bill of rights" drawn up and pushed by President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein. Until now, Sunstein's proposal has received little scrutiny.
In 2004, Sunstein penned a book, "The Second Bill of Rights: FDR'S Unfinished Revolution and Why We Need It More than Ever," in which he advanced the radical notion that welfare rights, including some controversial inceptions, be granted by the state. His inspiration for a new bill of rights came from President Roosevelt's 1944 proposal of a different, new set of bill of rights.
WND has learned that in April 2005, Sunstein opened up a conference at Yale Law School entitled "The Constitution in 2020," which sought to change the nature and interpretation of the Constitution by that year.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
- Cass Sunstein, Regulatory Czar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein
"THERE IS NO LIBERTY WITHOUT DEPENDENCY."
- Cass Sunstein, 0bummer's Regulatory Czar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein
"Liberty is Dependency"
- Big Brother Sunstein
Ping.
Sunstein is phenomenally dangerous, definitely a standout. Another among many, he is to be carefully watched. He will be one of the most agressive communist idealogues in the 0bama regime.
Tick....Tock...
Hopefully his dog will sue him.
LOL !
So, what does it really mean (the oath) “to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” How does one go about protecting and defending the Constitution? It is pretty obvious that it has both foreign and domestic enemies.
Someone should bring a suit on behalf of his dog for Slavery.
“Someone should bring a suit on behalf of his dog for Slavery.”
That’s doggist! More generically, Pettist!
This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read and I am sure he feels that he is brilliant to have written it. Of course in the purest and theoretical sense there is no complete liberty without some dependence. But this is like the physicist who knows that there are spaces in between atoms and in theory you can walk through a wall...but you don’t DO it. Or the old idea that you really CAN’T walk across a room. You can’t separate out pieces of reality and then act on that. If you take a flower apart and put the leaves and petals and stems in a jar you do not then have a “flower” though the parts are there. Essentially this is what he is doing with ideas like freedom. Freedom is a wholistic CONCEPT and leftists do not deal well with CONCEPTS. They simply have a bunch of parts and they really are not able to conceptualize them to make sense as a whole. Some chip is missing in this guy’s brain.
Well, it appears that none of the “czars” have been vetted nor taken the oath — albeit they take the pay.
How can that be?
Actually what this shows is these people have no idea how things get done or how the world works. They can’t fix anything, make anythng or do anything worthwhile. They talk for a living.
If you do not see that we are being attacked by communists by now then you are willfully ignorant, a Democrat, or a thick-headed, McCain type Republican.
“aggressive communist idealogue”
There is no other kind, FRiend.
In his new book, The Second Bill of Rights, Sunstein seeks to give constitutional status to welfare rights. The title comes from Franklin Roosevelt’s 1944 State of the Union address, in which he proclaimed that “necessitous men are not free men” and proposed a “second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all.” Among the rights FDR proposed were the rights to “a useful and remunerative job,” “a decent home,” “adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health,” “adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment,” and “a good education.”
More. A collection of quotes attributed to Cass Sunstein. It is beleived that these quotes are accurate.
http://stopsunstein.com/media/pdf/Sunstein%20quote%20file.pdf
“Wow. Just wow.” Ping
BTTT
HOW on earth could the US Senate confirm this radical psychotic communist? It's an utter disgrace that the Senate approved and confirmed Sunstein today.
“aggressive communist idealogue”
There is no other kind, FRiend.
Oh, I dunno. And before I explain my reply, I acknowledge you could be right, and/or the other types aren’t much worth paying attention to. I think about the “McCarthy era” in the fities, because this was brought up in context of the 0bama > schoolroom speech. “It reminds me of McCarthyism!!”
Well, we know now that the names Joe McCarthy had derived were, in fact, not just communist “sympathizers”...meaning, not just folks from the 30’s, who had a curiosity, perhaps born from the hardships of the depression, and attended a workers meeting or two. Or just subscribed to a newspaper. No, they were eager to actively support Soviet-sponsored communism and probably would have done literally anything short of actually taking up arms against the US. They were actors, not dabblers. They were convinced of the righteousness of their cause and were determined to prevail.
This guy Sunstein (and Jones, and half a dozen others) are solidly in the “actor” camp. They embrace the ideology, they are ready to act, and while they may too chickens**t to take up arms, they are equivalently committed to the destruction of the US at least as we conceive it.
So, maybe there are other types. Maybe not. Neither of us would make the mistake of misidentifying this guy Sunstein. He is as radical as it gets.
Samantha Power
In January 2008, Power began dating the prominent law professor Cass Sunstein whom she met while working on the Obama campaign.[6] On July 4, 2008, they married. [7] On April 24, 2009, Sunstein and Power welcomed their first child, Declan Power-Sunstein, born in Washington at seven pounds, eight ounces.
“HOW on earth could the US Senate confirm this radical psychotic communist?”
It’s hard to imagine. I/we can only hope it was done out of naivete or ignorance on the part of congresspeople too damn busy with all the other crap they’re dealing with. Not that I find that any kind of comforting excuse. But it only strengthens my resolve to not let this or any Congress gain any more control than they already have. They need to be distrusted and rejected on pure principle at this point.
I can just see those big city leeches doing farm work! Liberals must think that everyone drives an air conditioned tractor!
I see. Well, if they are ‘dabblers’ then they aren’t really communists, as such, but more like useful idiots, or the soon-to-be-disillusioned.
But communists are aggressive, to be sure.
This is a quiet war and we are presently getting our butts kicked because no one wants to be called by the name of Joe McCarthy.
Call me whatever you want, just don’t call me comrade, or slave, or formerly free American.
We have to call them out and fight them.
That we are pinning our hopes on a certain talk show host is a sign of just how successful their subversion has been for them and just how far we have to go before we can start fighting back.
Attacks on Sunstein Frustrate Conservative Fans
“All of this has proven confusing and frustrating to Sunstein’s conservative and libertarian admirers — some of whom were outspoken opponents of Jones, and opponents of the “czars” who, unlike Sunstein, do not need to be confirmed by the Senate.”
“In January, the libertarian blogger and law professor Glenn Reynolds wrote a hearty endorsement of Sunstein, telling readers that the nomination “shows that the Obama Administration is perhaps willing to look at new and less intrusive approaches to regulation.” Today, he sees the lengthy campaign against Sunstein as an unflattering example of “how the messed-up appointments process works.”
“I think he should be confirmed,” Reynolds told TWI. “Do I think Sunstein will push a hunting ban? No. Do I think he’s sympathetic to hunting, particularly? No. But what Obama appointee is likely to be? As the Van Jones affair indicates, there are a lot of people worthy of more concern than Sunstein. If I were advising Republicans, I’d tell them to focus their attentions elsewhere.”
That advice was echoed by Ed Morrissey, a conservative blogger at HotAir.com, which published dozens of posts about Jones until he finally withdrew. “I’d prefer to see someone more conservative or moderate in [Sunstein’s] position,” said Morrissey, “if it should exist at all. I’m not going to endorse Sunstein, but don’t think that he presents a good target for Republicans to attack. I think that there is a big problem with lumping the ‘czars’ in with those like Sunstein who need Senate approval and have Congressional oversight.”
Ilya Somin, a libertarian law professor at George Mason University, has written at the popular Volokh Conspiracy lawblog that “the czar system does circumvent the regular appointment and confirmation process.” Like Morrissey and Reynolds, he was critical of Beck and other Sunstein critics.
“Sunstein has nothing to do with the ‘czars’ or the problems with the ‘czars,’” said Somin. “The ironic thing is that anybody else who might be appointed to this job would be less qualified, and more liberal. I disagree with what Sunstein writes in ‘Nudge.’ But what he advocates is not as bad as the views likely to be held by other people who could run [the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs].”
Even if the “czar” issue fades, the attacks on Sunstein’s more controversial views may stick. By far the most damaging critique has been the one that prompted the senatorial holds: Sunstein’s view of animal rights, including the view that humans may sue on the behalf of animals. “If confirmed,” Sunstein told Cornyn in a July 31 letter that effectively ended the hold, “I certainly would not use my position at [the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs] to promote animal standing in civil litigation.” But David Martosko, a spokesman for the conservative Center for Consumer Freedom, has hammered Sunstein for his views, and done so on two episodes of Beck’s show.
“You can say anything you want during a confirmation hearing,” Martosko told TWI. “Once you’re in place, administrator of [the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs] is really an ideal job for an animal rights zealot to have. You could decide that the government was no longer able to buy eggs from hens that are kept in cages. All of a sudden, there’s a 90-day warning on the new policy against buying eggs from cooped-up hens.”
On TV and in his interview with TWI, Martosko said that Sunstein was a “disciple” of Peter Singer, the Princeton University ethicist who has taken controversial stands on, among other things, the morality of killing disabled infants “if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole.” In an email to TWI, Singer said that he had only worked with Sunstein once, and that Martosko was wildly off base.
“Cass Sunstein has developed his own views on this issue,” said Singer. “You might as well say that Glenn Beck is a disciple of Lyndon LaRouche because they agree on opposing the public health care option.”
But Martosko argued that Singer’s influence on Sunstein was “obvious” from the nominee’s own writing, and from private conversations. “You can never elevate animals,” said Martosko. “All you can do is lower humans to the level of animals. If you’re intellectually honest — and Sunstein is a Harvard Law professor, so I’m sure he has thought through this — you can draw the conclusion from there to organ donation without consent, or to rationing of end-of-life care. There’s nothing special about you. You’re just another animal.”
In the face of that criticism, hardened by the “czars” controversy, Sunstein’s supporters remain frustrated by their lack of progress. Richard Epstein, a libertarian-leaning law professor at the University of Chicago who edited a book about the 2000 election with Sunstein, told TWI that he supported Sunstein’s nomination “notwithstanding the many substantive disagreements between us.”
“The Beck stuff,” said Epstein, “is well over the top.”
http://washingtonindependent.com/58152/attacks-on-sunstein-frustrate-conservative-fans
Like I said, the willfully ignorant.
Some Sunstein gems:
“Without taxes there would be no property.”
“Without taxes there would be no liberty.”
“In what sense is the money in our pockets and bank accounts fully “ours”?
In the sense that if someone tries to take it I’ll tear them limb from limb!
“Did we earn it by our own autonomous efforts?”
No, the little green shamrock guy gave it to me, you idiot!
“Could we have inherited it without the assistance of probate courts?”
Sure, I got my father’s brains, good looks, and what was left of his estate—HE WROTE ME A CHECK, dufus!
“Do we save it without support from bank regulators?”
Yeah, those guys are the REAL bankers, aren’t they? You waste of space!
“Could we spend it (say, on the installment plan) if there were no public officials to coordinate the efforts and pool the resources of the community in which we live?”
I don’t get the resources of the ‘community pool’—they take MY resources, for Christ’s sake!
“Indeed, property owners are more deeply “dependent” on government than food-stamp recipients.”
Amazing. Just amazing.
“government does not ‘merely’ protect property; it also defines and assigns property,”
“Rights to private property, freedom of speech, immunity from police abuse, contractual liberty, free exercise of religion—just as much as rights to Social Security, Medicare and food stamps—are taxpayer-funded and government-managed social services designed to improve collective and individual well-being.”
“No right can be exercised independently”
And here I thought I was only one man. Ya learn something new every day these days, I tell ya. Hey, me! Yeah. You feel like exercising some rights? Yeah, let’s.
“...for every rights-holder has a claim on public resources”
Only the ‘rights-holder’ that paid for it, chief. The rest are thieves and leeches beholden to said plundered ‘rights-holder’ and not the other way ‘round.
“...on money that has been extracted from citizens at large.”
Extracted? Sure, like root canal. But isn’t the right phrase ‘stolen by force’?
“There is no liberty without dependency. That is why we should celebrate tax day.”
“But it wasn’t a dream, Auntie Em. It was a place. And you and you and you...and you were there.”
I was wrong, he’s not a communist, he’s insane—a walking contradiction.
Using his logic, more government should then equal more freedom.
Seriously, this man is dangerous in a position of power within our government.
What the hell is wrong with the ‘conservatives’ and ‘libertarians’ that support this guy?
“HOW on earth could the US Senate confirm this radical psychotic communist? It’s an utter disgrace that the Senate approved and confirmed Sunstein today.”
Communist sympathizers! I will say it again and again, we have a rogue government on our hands that is bent on bringing America in line with the rest of the socialist world and we are going to be forced- kicking and screaming!
This will all end badly - True patriots had better prepare and organize!!
Wow! I couldn’t have said it better myself. Hear, hear!
Communism is theft! This guy can stuff his cryptomarxist theories where the sun don’t stein.
0bama will go on TV for 8 months prior to the implantation of a country wide food tax.
“This will all end badly”
I think you’re correct. Question is, badly for whom.
The one unavoidable certainty is, is that it’s going to have to end, one way or another.
This is evil.
How much longer do we have to wait?
It makes perfect sense when you consider what the woman from the DNC said right before Obama’s inauguration — that this was a “peaceful transition of power”... I immediately saw in that some indication that the next transfer of power would NOT be “peaceful”...
This nut is a gift to us that will keep giving us ammo to destroy king obuma. Every notion of animal rights has been laughed out the courts. The more immediate concern is that a majority of senators voted to confirm this Teutonic neo-Nazi Malthusian. That’s where the problem lives and where the fix must be applied.
That’s what I’d like to know. Under what law is the President appointing these people who have power, and no regulation or accountability? It’s IMHO a CLEAR transfer of power very disproportionate into the Executive Branch. Again, these Czars have NO accountability to the public, and there has been NO process to vet ANY of them.
He is setting these people up as Cabinet-type bureaucrats and circumventing our laws by doing so... BTW - Obama has only had TWO - only TWO - cabinet meetings in the last 9 months. Why? Because he has the meetings with his CZARS instead.
Sustein is in favor of giving pets the right to sue their owners. No shit.
His wife. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/samanthapower/index Post 25. “Sunstein and Power welcomed their first child, Declan” WTH! kind of name is DECLAN?
WTH! kind of name is DECLANIts an assembly language neumonic that means "DECrement Long And Negate"
Watched HELL! BOOTED out!
No high taxes is doubleplus ungood!
My question about what it means to defend and protect the Constitution really was meant to ask, What are the means patriotic Americans who are under the oath should use, and to what extremes should they go (and when? - when is the time right to do whatever?) to defend and protect the Constitution?
I was not considering any of Obama’s “czars” as being the ones to “defend and protect” because I believe they are domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Someone will suggest the ballot box. Yes, of course. But what do we do to “defend and protect” when the ballot box is manipulated by either non-citizens and/or the whords who have been allowed in illegally , or brought in, from countries where statism and the welfare state, and Marxist socialism is the rule, and was what they were nursed on, and so they use the ballot box essentially wipe themselves with the Constitution.
I personally believe that we have little or nothing left of representative government in Washington. After all the Town Hall meetings I have seen, if Obama’s deathcare package passes Congress, I will be convinced of it.
My faith in our representative government will be somewhat restored, if we see the American people throw out the Congress that votes in this Marxist-socialist legislation (if it passes), and elects a “Congress of Repeal.”
If Congress remains inhabited by the same socialists after the 2010 election, or if the new Congress continues down the same road, I will more deeply believe what I suspect, and that is that the Congress is representing someone or something other than the people who elected them - - that this is no longer a government of the people through its elected representatives - - the Republic is in abeyance.
And if the Constitution is only a document that means nothing to the president and to Congress, then what do the true Patriots do to “defend and protect”?
IMHO, a nexus of anti-Constitutional events and poor results in the 2010 elections could make hard decisions essential about 18 months from now.
IMHO, a poor result in the 2010 elections will mean there is virtually no chance for good 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026,2028, etc, election results.
(Assuming that non-Soviet-style "elections" are still held in those out-years.)
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