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Healthcare scheme would benefit illegal immigrants
The Hill ^ | 08/03/09 | Lamar Smith (R-Texas) -

Posted on 09/10/2009 6:28:59 AM PDT by george76

While much of the public debate surrounding the Democrats’ healthcare plan has focused on the massive costs to be paid by American taxpayers, another flaw has stayed under the radar — until last week. That’s when the National Council of La Raza and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus pushed to include illegal immigrants in the president’s healthcare effort.

Despite statements to the contrary, the Obama administration could force the American people to pay for the healthcare of millions of illegal immigrants in the U.S.

The Democrats’ bill in the House, H.R. 3200, contains gaping loopholes that will allow illegal immigrants to receive taxpayer-funded benefits. And these loopholes are no accident.

The legislation contains no verification mechanism to ensure that illegal immigrants do not apply for benefits. Republicans offered an amendment to close this loophole — it would have required verification using the existing methods that are already in place to verify eligibility for other federal benefits programs. But, when they were asked to put the language of the bill where their words were, in a party-line vote, House Democrats rejected the amendment to require verification and close this loophole.

The bill also leaves open the possibility that if one citizen family member is eligible for benefits, then the entire family — including illegal immigrants — is also eligible for the benefits.

If Americans aren’t already concerned enough about the astronomical costs of the healthcare proposal, this taxpayer-funded benefit for lawbreakers should sound the alarms.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: barackobama; democrats; healthcare; healthcareproposal; illegal; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrants; laraza; obama

1 posted on 09/10/2009 6:28:59 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Despite statements to the contrary, the Obama administration could force the American people to pay for the healthcare of millions of illegal immigrants in the U.S.

Same thing that has been going on, without illegals you have no health care problem.

2 posted on 09/10/2009 6:39:31 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: george76

It does not matter what the final bill says. The bill could even explicitly say, Illegals will not have access to the health system.

However, just like the courts did in the 1980s, when they ruled that illegals must have access to public education, the courts will rule that, regardless of the bill’s language, illegals must have access to health care.

Congress will try to push a bill through that ostensibly denies coverage to illegals, knowing that the courts will finish the job for them via judicial fiat.


3 posted on 09/10/2009 7:02:27 AM PDT by kevao (DISSENT: It's no longer patriotic.)
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To: kevao

We need a few Republicans to get time on FOX and read this onerous bill line by line so the public can be awasre of what is really in it. How can we get this done?


4 posted on 09/10/2009 7:07:31 AM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: george76
The Congressional Research Service agrees, at least somewhat:

Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200

They acknowledge the lack of a legislated enforcement mechanism to verify immigration status, but point out that the "Health Choices Commissioner" would be responsible for creating a mechanism to verify eligibility, which means that a bureaucrat will be making the decision.

However, the CRS also notes that the expansion of "emergency Medicaid" services that are already provided to undocumented aliens does constitute an increase in benefits to that group.

5 posted on 09/10/2009 7:16:08 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: george76

Did you know:

· That the words “race car” spelled backward still spells race car.

· That “eat” is the only word that if you take the 1st letter and move it to the last, it spells its past tense ate.

· And Have you noticed that if you rearrange the letters in “illegal immigrants”, and add just a few more letters, it spells out: “Go home you free-loading, benefit grabbing, kid-producing, violent, non-English speaking a$$holes and take those other hairy-faced, sandal wearing, bomb making, goat loving, raggedy a$$ bastards with you.”

How weird is that ??

I didn’t either!!


6 posted on 09/10/2009 7:32:48 AM PDT by Jessica2677 (I cant afford taxes anymore so I am claiming EXEMPT!)
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To: george76
While Lamar Smith does briefly mention education, he is ignoring the reality that the costs of illegals, as measured by health care, education, welfare, and criminal justice costs fall disproportionally on the border states.

Since immigration is a federal matter, and the federal govt has not controlled illegal immigration, the feds should be paying the health care costs of illegals.

7 posted on 09/10/2009 7:35:07 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Jessica2677; Just mythoughts; stephenjohnbanker; GOPJ; maggief; Grampa Dave; ...
Have you noticed......if you rearrange the letters in “illegal immigrants” and add just a few more letters, it spells out: “Go home you free-loading, benefit grabbing, kid-producing, violent, non-English speaking a$$holes and take those other hairy-faced, sandal wearing, bomb making, goat loving, raggedy a$$ bastards with you”.........

(Snort) I knew that.

8 posted on 09/10/2009 11:45:39 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: socialismisinsidious


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9 posted on 09/10/2009 11:56:58 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: george76
Ohaha is trying to have it both ways: The legislation SAYS it will not fund illegal aliens BUT the legislation also prevents anyone from checking on the citizenship status of any person seeking healthcare.

The end game is that vote-hungry Dems are sucking up to illegals b/c they NEED those illegal votes to stay in power.

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IBD Exclusive Series: Government-Run Healthcare: A Prescription For Failure
Paying The Price For Illegal Care

IBD Editorials | August 21, 2009
FR Posted by Kaslin

Democrats are right that uncompensated emergency care for the uninsured is driving up costs. What they don't say is it's illegal immigrants who are bankrupting ERs, and the federal government is encouraging them.

Last decade, the Clinton administration added teeth to a little-known Health and Human Services Department regulation mandating that hospitals provide emergency treatment even to illegals.

Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, or EMTALA, hospitals can't even ask for a patient's immigration status or ability to pay prior to delivering treatment. They also can't keep such uninsured patients waiting, even if their problem isn't an emergency. Nor can they discharge them until they're fully stabilized and have safe transportation. More, hospitals must post EMTALA signs in Spanish and English.

The law isn't limited to ERs. Hospitals must accept illegals at any facility on campus — including outpatient clinics and doctor's offices — located within 250 yards of the main buildings.

Hospitals end up treating uninsured illegals for the sniffles and other nonurgent care, and pass that exorbitant cost on to the insured, the Government Accountability Office has found. Resulting overcrowding leads to delays in "care for patients with true emergency needs." (Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com .....

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OBAMA CON JOB: Obama keeps saying "ObamaCare is not going to insure illegal aliens EXCEPT that the bill does not have verification provisions to make sure illegals can't apply and get benefits."

Obama surely knows (doesn't he?) that our courts have ruled repeatedly that hospitals cannot turn illegals away from emergency rooms.(And besides, Obama is planning to give illegals full amnesty by the time ObaCare kicks in.)

10 posted on 09/10/2009 11:58:04 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: Liz; Jessica2677

Man, that joke is at least 2 hours old!!

; )


11 posted on 09/10/2009 11:58:19 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Liz

(snort) (snort)


12 posted on 09/10/2009 12:22:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Liz

On a more serious note...not related to anything here: BUT
Thought of you when I posted this to another thread.....A little nugget of information you might want to have in your back pocket to enlighten any Hillary Nut friends you might have:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2160983/posts?page=17


13 posted on 09/10/2009 12:28:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: george76; Liz; Jeff Head; PhilDragoo

If 0b0z0 gets socialized medicine this year, next year he will legalize every illegal in the states, and anyone who wants to come for free medical care.

He will probably lose a large % of the Senior Citizen voters after they realize what socialized Medicare means to them.

So he will just replace them by making illegals new citizens.


14 posted on 09/10/2009 12:46:08 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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