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Why Are Jews Liberals?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 09-09-09 | NORMAN PODHORETZ

Posted on 09/09/2009 7:07:27 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

I'm hoping buyer's remorse on Obama will finally cause a Jewish shift to the right.

One of the most extraordinary features of Barack Obama's victory over John McCain was his capture of 78% of the Jewish vote. To be sure, there was nothing extraordinary about the number itself. Since 1928, the average Jewish vote for the Democrat in presidential elections has been an amazing 75%—far higher than that of any other ethno-religious group.

Yet there were reasons to think that it would be different in 2008. The main one was Israel. Despite some slippage in concern for Israel among American Jews, most of them were still telling pollsters that their votes would be strongly influenced by the positions of the two candidates on the Jewish state. This being the case, Mr. McCain's long history of sympathy with Israel should have given him a distinct advantage over Mr. Obama, whose own history consisted of associating with outright enemies of the Jewish state like the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and the historian Rashid Khalidi.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: jewishvote; jews; liberal; obama; podhoretz
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Hebrew campaign buttons for Barack Obama.

1 posted on 09/09/2009 7:07:27 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

I can’t understand Jewish support for any liberal democrat.


2 posted on 09/09/2009 7:09:27 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: GOP_Lady

Why are Catholics liberals? Why are members of Stormfront liberals?


3 posted on 09/09/2009 7:10:42 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop

Why does neoconnery run in the Podhoretz family?


4 posted on 09/09/2009 7:11:44 PM PDT by ruination
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To: GOP_Lady

GLEN
...Wait a minute, I told it wrong.
Here, I’m startin’ over: How come it
takes three Pollacks to screw in a
lightbulb?

HI
I don’t know, Glen.

GLEN
Cause they’re so durn stupid!

(Raising Arizona, Coen Brothers)

So now it’s your turn, Podhoretz. Ask away. Don’t be shy...


5 posted on 09/09/2009 7:12:38 PM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: SJackson

Ping.


6 posted on 09/09/2009 7:12:45 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: GOP_Lady
Why do I not think of people in categories of race or religion?

I know plenty of truly conservative Jewish individuals.

7 posted on 09/09/2009 7:15:02 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: GOP_Lady
”Since 1928, the average Jewish vote for the Democrat”

question:
There was a powerful group of people that supported the Nazi’s during this time in the US were they predominantly Democrats or Republicans?

8 posted on 09/09/2009 7:15:03 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: GOP_Lady



TRADITION!


9 posted on 09/09/2009 7:15:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("People are idiots." -Thomas A. Caswell)
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To: GOP_Lady

I see those on cars all over The People’s Republic of Bethesda.

Why Jews vote for libtards who hate Israel and could care less about what happens to it is baffling. Have you ever heard the moonbats that call Mark Levin and spew their hatred for him and Jews? They make David Duke look normal!


10 posted on 09/09/2009 7:16:16 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Bitter Clunker Clinger all wee-wee'd up, Palin/Cheney 2012)
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To: freestyle
I know plenty of truly conservative Jewish individuals.

Amazing, since there are so few of them.

11 posted on 09/09/2009 7:17:27 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: GOP_Lady

Stockholm syndrome?


12 posted on 09/09/2009 7:17:37 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: ruination
"Why does neoconnery run in the Podhoretz family?"

I don't know. ...Balkan culture, perhaps?


13 posted on 09/09/2009 7:18:23 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: GOP_Lady

I’ve never understood why so many Jews cuddle up to philosphies and movements likely to shove them into ovens.
I’ve had conversations where it was obvious that they didn’t really understand my yearning for individual liberty.
Maybe their tradition of collective action is just too big an influence to overcome.


14 posted on 09/09/2009 7:18:59 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: GOP_Lady

In 1928 Al Smith, a Catholic, was the Democrat candidate.


15 posted on 09/09/2009 7:21:27 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: ruination

There are many constituents of liberals that I do not understand how they can support liberalism and all that it entails.

First, Catholics. How can a Catholic even consider being a liberal when liberals want universal federally funded unlimited abortions which is both murder and genocide. It is like supporting serial killers.

Second, Jews. Liberals are a lot more willing to throw Israel under the bus in order to get a Palestinian state. Since Palestinians have shown that they do not know or even care how to run a government, control their own extremists, then they are not fit to have a state of their own. But that does not matter to liberals. Liberals only see the plight of the Palestinians and denounce Israel and Israelis every chance they get and try to tell them what they can and cannot do internationally. As long as a liberal resides in the WH, Israel should not listen or obey us. Israel needs to do what they think is right and just for themselves and their own country and its survival.

3. Blacks and minorities but especially blacks. Liberals like to claim they are for the poor but they are in fact elitist who only care about lining their own pockets and telling blacks what they want to hear come election time so that the blacks will vote to reelect them. But if blacks ever thought long and hard about it, they would come to realize that their circumstances do not change under liberalism. It is only under conservatism that raises blacks out of poverty and the ability to enter the middle class by giving them opportunities to improve their conditions, remain in school, get a job and make a living for themselves and their families to prosper. Elitist liberal democrats, even black elitist liberal politicians do not really care about black folks. When will the black population of this country wake up to reality?


16 posted on 09/09/2009 7:21:54 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: GOP_Lady

The reason the Jews and Blacks vote for liberals is that they are more afraid of the fundies that run the Republican Party.


17 posted on 09/09/2009 7:22:37 PM PDT by LeGrande (“Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under” H.L. Mencken)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

A variant sticker was produced which said (in Hebrew transliteration) FUQ OBAMA


18 posted on 09/09/2009 7:25:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“Maybe their tradition of collective action is just too big an influence to overcome.”

As a hunted minority, they did develop something of a tendency to see the advantages to group activities, group support/funding, etc.

‘Tis a pity they didn’t really understand that in America the collective will not be good for anyone.


19 posted on 09/09/2009 7:28:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: freestyle

Thank You

From a Jew


20 posted on 09/09/2009 7:28:59 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: GladesGuru

I come from lines who moved the homestead when a neighbor got close enough that they could smell his smoke, LOL


21 posted on 09/09/2009 7:32:44 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: GOP_Lady

I guess you have to be a Jew to understand why such a high percentage are liberals. I know that the Jewish student organization at my university invites the most liberal democrats to come and speak to them. This group seems to believe that the government should pay for everything. I always get the feeling that they can find ways to avoid the taxes that everyone else has to pay.


22 posted on 09/09/2009 7:33:11 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: LeGrande

“The reason the Jews and Blacks vote for liberals is that they are more afraid of the fundies that run the Republican Party.”

Correct with these changes:
“The reason the Jews and Blacks vote for liberals is that the Jews find careers running welfare and other gooberment agencies while the blacks receive benefits from those programs which they do not have to pay for.

One group tends towards government employment, the other towards receiving government largess.


23 posted on 09/09/2009 7:33:18 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GOP_Lady
Perhaps American Jews need to touch base with the folks in Israel more often.

Obama's teachable Mideast moment Here's a quote:

Thanks to his administration's arm-twisting and bullying of Jerusalem over settlements, Obama has unwittingly succeeded in galvanizing the Israeli public like never before. The result is a broad coalition that extends all the way from the moderate left, through the center and over to the reasonable right, giving Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu plenty of political breathing space.

24 posted on 09/09/2009 7:33:39 PM PDT by GBA
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To: ruination

Oh, I LOVE Podheretz!!! And don’t forget Mark Levin, the Great One.


25 posted on 09/09/2009 7:34:52 PM PDT by AmericanMermaid
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To: LeGrande

Erratum:
“One group tends towards government employment, the other towards receiving government largess.” should be:
“One group tends towards government employment, the other towards receiving government entitlement.


26 posted on 09/09/2009 7:35:17 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Very well put.


27 posted on 09/09/2009 7:38:16 PM PDT by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

78 percent of the vote for obama.

Thoughts? It doesn’t help to explain you know plenty of conservatives. Can you explain the 78 percent?


28 posted on 09/09/2009 7:40:47 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: LeGrande
The reason the Jews and Blacks vote for liberals is that they are more afraid of the fundies that run the Republican Party.

That is your explanation going back to the beginning of recording the Jewish vote?

How about 1920 when just about the only people that voted for Socialist party candidate Eugene Debs were the Jews that gave him 38% of their vote?

How about after the years of giving democrats up to 90% of their vote, they even gave Jimmy Carter 71% against Gerald Ford?

29 posted on 09/09/2009 7:42:13 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Shooter 2.5

Because I know the 22% that voted for McCain. Observant Jews. That’s the difference.


30 posted on 09/09/2009 7:43:14 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I’ll try again and I’m not trying to get into an argument. I really am trying to understand.

Why would American Jews vote for a Israel hating candidate at a rate of 78 percent?


31 posted on 09/09/2009 7:50:25 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: GOP_Lady
"their votes would be strongly influenced by the positions of the two candidates on the Jewish state."

Therein lies the problem. Many Jews are more concerned with the fate of a foreign country (Israel), than they are their own natural born country (America).
32 posted on 09/09/2009 7:51:23 PM PDT by Ragtime
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To: GOP_Lady

This question comes up now and then and it’s nowhere near as puzzling as people make it out to be.

I just think the average Jewish person in the USA simply agrees with most of the modern-day liberal agenda.

It’s not a difficult question.


33 posted on 09/09/2009 7:54:34 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: GladesGuru

Blacks are always railing about their history as slaves.

Shouldn’t they then be outraged about accepting government entitlements?

By accepting government handouts, they are in fact slaves once more.

Don’t they get that?

It’s not only embarrassing, it’s immoral. Where is their esteem? Where is their self-respect? Are they going to remain government slaves and victims for all time? Isn’t that the definition of slavery as well?


34 posted on 09/09/2009 7:55:02 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: GladesGuru

Blacks are always railing about their history as slaves.

Shouldn’t they then be outraged about accepting government entitlements?

By accepting government handouts, they are in fact slaves once more.

Don’t they get that?

It’s not only embarrassing, it’s immoral. Where is their esteem? Where is their self-respect? Are they going to remain government slaves and victims for all time? Isn’t that the definition of slavery as well?


35 posted on 09/09/2009 7:55:19 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: freestyle

I do too, but I see WAY too many obama bumper stickers in the Jewish Community Center parking lot every day. Ant the TV’s on the treadmills and ellipticals are more likely to be on CNN rather than Fox News.


37 posted on 09/09/2009 8:14:02 PM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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To: GOP_Lady

It’s a tradition for them to support the left. It goes back to their experience in Eastern Europe, and their history since the diaspora in general. I wish more of them would sit up and take notice that the friend of Israel’s enemies—the hard leftist Obama—is not their friend. There has got to be some serious cognitive dissonance for millions of them. I believe 2012 will see Obama earning fewer of their votes.


38 posted on 09/09/2009 8:23:37 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: GOP_Lady
My father in law is Jewish and used to be a Republican. He actually has a picture of himself with Goldwater from 1964.

He later regretted his support for Goldwater do to his opposition to the Civil Rights bill, but remained a Republican.

However, he left the GOP with the rise of the Christian conservative agenda. Now he is a top line Democratic donor.

39 posted on 09/09/2009 8:29:12 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: AmericanMermaid

Mark Levin, yes, but Pod the Lesser and family, no.


40 posted on 09/09/2009 8:34:27 PM PDT by ruination
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To: trumandogz

Against Goldwater the Jewish vote was 90% for Johnson, (10% Goldwater), your dad was unusual. Which election was it that he switched over to voting democrat?


41 posted on 09/09/2009 8:37:04 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ruination

Oh, I read this too quickly! I didn’t realize it was Norman. John used to write for the NY Post (don’t live in NJ anymore; I’m in NC now). John Podheretz was a columnist, very conservative in his views. Thanks for pointing that out! :D


42 posted on 09/09/2009 8:37:17 PM PDT by AmericanMermaid
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WASP fraction of GOP’s position on illegal alien is to blame. Jews have always been aliens in nations outside of Israel. Any anti-illegal alien party will not get much support from a good Jewish person. I myself is not very thrilled over Rush Limburgh’s rehtoric over illegal immigration, even though I admire the man greatly.

Look at Deuteronomy 10:19-20
19 And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egypt. 20 Fear the LORD your God and serve him. Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name.

If only people has heeded GW Bush, granted green cards to many people who have been here for a long time, perhaps GOP would have gotten the victory in the election, the housing market would not have collapsed. I feel the migrant workers who risked so much and worked so hard for so little for their families have the same characteristics like most conservatives. What a good way to get more membership for conservatives. By years of hard labor, they would have earned their right to live here.

I think the possible way to remedy this situation would be granting green cards to illegal aliens who have been here for 7 years and more. Then you would have taken an issue away from Democrats’ hand.


43 posted on 09/09/2009 8:38:12 PM PDT by jeanguy04
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It would be interesting to adjust / norm the percentages based the districts where Jews live. There appears to be a a tradition of liberal identification for Jews, but any person of any religious heritage growing up in Manhattan, or San Francisco or Massachusetts or ... is likely to be a hereditary Liberal or worse.
44 posted on 09/09/2009 9:00:28 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: flowerplough

Ok, Ok, only because it is sort of on topic.

Q. How many Jewish mothers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A. It’s ok, I’ll sit in the dark.


45 posted on 09/09/2009 9:06:29 PM PDT by jocon307 ( We're dealing with COMMUNISTS here, folks!)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Because most American Jews are not religious and liberalism has become their religion. That is why the more religious a Jew is, the more likely he is to be Republican, statistically.


46 posted on 09/09/2009 9:28:28 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: R W Reactionairy
As you can see below the example of the New York city Jewish vote for Roosevelt compared to Catholics (another consistently liberal voting block).

Nationwide by 1940 Catholics were giving the republicans 28% of their vote and 33% by 1944, Protestants were voting against Roosevelt in 1940 and 1944 and the Jews had increased their support for Roosevelt to 90% of their vote in both 1940 and 1944, so that theory doesn't hold up.

Jews are truly liberal.

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47 posted on 09/09/2009 9:31:26 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: trumandogz
he left the GOP with the rise of the Christian conservative agenda. Now he is a top line Democratic donor.

Shows as much how the Democratic party has changed as that there was a rise of a Christian conservative agenda. Democrats once pounded the pulpit as much if not more than Republicans and both parties did it more than they do today. Three times Democratic candidate for President, William Jennings Bryan was an anti-Darwinist and prolific writer of Christian material.

In just one Senate Speech Huey Long quoted Nehemiah,Ecclesiastes,Leviticus,Deuteronomy and Pope Pius.

(Congressional Record Jan 23, 1935)

The New Deal itself was drenched in Christian rhetoric and allusions. So much so that there is hatred of it among some modern feminists. They don't want people looking into it and seeing that FDR and his New Dealers used, to a large extent, the Christian faith as a framework.

In his 1952 Democratic Nomination Acceptance Speech, the darling of self-proclaimed intellectuals,Adlai Stevenson, quoted Matthew 26:42.

48 posted on 09/09/2009 9:55:58 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Cinnamon Girl

It’s stupidity on a biblical scale.


49 posted on 09/09/2009 11:03:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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To: Ballygrl

In big cities, there is more than a little evidence of Stockholm Syndrome..The rest would be stupidity and/or mental illness..


50 posted on 09/09/2009 11:18:12 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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