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India's First Stealth Fighter Scheduled to Fly in 4 Months
DailyTech ^ | Aug 31, 2009 | Jason Mick

Posted on 09/08/2009 11:11:22 PM PDT by Danae

New fighter, designed by Russian Sukhoi is reportedly more maneuverable than Lockheed Martin's designs

India, one of the world's brightest emerging technical superpowers -- currently, the seventh biggest nation in terms of land area, and the second biggest in terms of population -- is preparing to make a major military leap forward. It will be flying its first stealth fighter in under four months.

The new fighter is a so-called "fifth generation" fighter jet. Currently only two such fighter jets exist, both produced by Lockheed Martin: the F-22 Raptor and the F-35 Lightning II. The Indian fighter is being developed by Russian firm Sukhoi and is dubbed the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft or FGFA.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; stealthweaponry; sukhoi
Looks like India is getting a new toy....
BR>


1 posted on 09/08/2009 11:11:23 PM PDT by Danae
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To: Danae

looks vaguely familiar


2 posted on 09/08/2009 11:15:59 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Kinda Russian lookin.... Sokhoi.... yea for our Russian friends.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 11:20:47 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae

While kudos are due to India and the USSR (oh.. sorry. Russia.. since now they are “democratic”), the fact is that it will take India/Russia over 10 years (and that is if they are lucky) to make these fighters operational

Gen 5 fighters require wickedly complex software code and the materials used for building these crafts (think 787 issues 100 times worse) cause a lot of issues.

It will be 2020 before these fighters become “operational” no matter what you hear from the Russkies in the interim

Facts be facts... no matter what Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Putin say...


4 posted on 09/08/2009 11:23:09 PM PDT by SoftwareEngineer (`)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
Let me correct you:

Facts be facts... no matter what Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Putin and Obama say...

5 posted on 09/08/2009 11:28:17 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Danae

yOU can thank the H1b visa program for this.


6 posted on 09/08/2009 11:29:24 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

India has enough engineers here to learn and or steal whatever they need.


7 posted on 09/08/2009 11:31:08 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

Bingo.


8 posted on 09/08/2009 11:37:00 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: GeronL
It reminds me of this from 30 years ago...

B-1 Lancer (USA)

Tu-160 Blackjack (Soviet)


9 posted on 09/08/2009 11:42:55 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: Danae

Hey, we’ll have 187 Raptors. I’m sure that’s plenty to face future threats. Gates has assured us that there are no conventional challenges in our future, just Afghanistan-style conflicts.


10 posted on 09/08/2009 11:53:27 PM PDT by Sandreckoner
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To: Danae

I’ll believe it when I see it.


11 posted on 09/09/2009 12:44:44 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Danae

I wonder if neocon favorite Noshir Gowadia participated.


12 posted on 09/09/2009 1:04:25 AM PDT by ruination
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To: SoftwareEngineer
" While kudos are due to India and the USSR (oh.. sorry. Russia.. since now they are “democratic”), the fact is that it will take India/Russia over 10 years (and that is if they are lucky) to make these fighters operational

Gen 5 fighters require wickedly complex software code and the materials used for building these crafts (think 787 issues 100 times worse) cause a lot of issues.

It will be 2020 before these fighters become “operational” no matter what you hear from the Russkies in the interim

Facts be facts... no matter what Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Putin say...


No worries, Obama will make sure no foe goes unfunded, he will send them funds to make sure this gets developed rapidly " Sarcasm...
13 posted on 09/09/2009 2:06:08 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: OldDeckHand

When I read that Americans keep the Russians supplied with the latest in weapons designs and technology, pictures like this make it VERY easy to believe!


14 posted on 09/09/2009 4:48:00 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: American Constitutionalist

“No worries, Obama will make sure no foe goes unfunded, he will send them funds to make sure this gets developed rapidly “ Sarcasm... “

Obama is a Charley McCarthy ventriloquist (teleprompter) dummy for the political descendents of the bankers and NWO people who funded the Soviet Revolution.


15 posted on 09/09/2009 4:50:52 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: OldDeckHand
I was not aware that the Soviets had a B-1 clone. They look almost exactly the same!

Kinda reminiscent of the whole Space Shuttle/Buran story.

16 posted on 09/09/2009 6:23:18 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: TomasUSMC
H1Bs dont work for Pratt Whitney, Lockheed Martin, Boeing Mcdonald Douglas, Northrop Grumman. They usually dont get security clearances for those projects. If they do, it would only mean US needs them more then they need the US.
17 posted on 09/09/2009 2:35:39 PM PDT by Rookie Cookie
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To: TomasUSMC

India has enough engineers IN INDIA to learn and or............


18 posted on 09/09/2009 2:36:53 PM PDT by Rookie Cookie
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To: Rookie Cookie

, it would only mean US needs them more then they need the US
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I think it means that our Government is not training and investing in our youth in the tech areas and instead is taking the cheaper option of just hiring the already trained youth of other countries.....thus stabbing our young in the back.


19 posted on 09/09/2009 5:48:29 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: GeronL
looks vaguely familiar

Why shouldn't it? I called Verizon to fix and email problem and the bank I deal with to help me with one of my accounts and both times I'm pretty sure I was talking with someone in India.

If they know all about an Average American's phone and banking along with the rest of the country's, why wouldn't they know all about Lockheed and Northrup's design library? We give it all away and then train others to use it.

20 posted on 09/09/2009 7:41:34 PM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

yup.

Its not like it hard to find images online and hire some Russian engineers about the details.


21 posted on 09/09/2009 8:18:10 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: TomasUSMC
Wrong again. The Government in India does not train anybody either. The Government in India invests FAR FAR less on youth and tech areas. Its not the Government's job to train people in tech areas or any area for that matter.

More over you are dead wrong about defense industries going for cheaper option from abroad. The totally dont. Not for projects that need high level security clearances. The few that do have high level security clearance, have skills no other Americans have (Government training or not). And its a misconception that H1bs are cheap. The are not, if you consider the cost of sponsoring their work permit,hiring attorneys, bringing them over to US and the minimum wage cap.

22 posted on 09/10/2009 6:49:14 AM PDT by Rookie Cookie
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To: Rookie Cookie
Well I've worked at TSSI levels and seen plenty of foreigners. ...and they weren't any smarter than Americans but they did work for much less.

And to say H1Bs are not cheap, well what do you think the cost is in time and money, of educating someone from first grade to a Master's is?

H1Bs have been giving our best jobs to people of other countries and leaving our kids with lesser jobs for years.
In a country of THREE HUNDRED MILLION people, there is absolutely no excuse for claiming we can't obtain the talent here. It is a giant lie.

Train Americans not foreigners for the jobs of the future or the future's jobs will be foreign to US.

23 posted on 09/10/2009 9:43:52 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC
“Well I've worked at TSSI levels and seen plenty of foreigners. ...and they weren't any smarter than Americans but they did work for much less.”

“Seeing foreigners” is different from seeing H1Bs. You cant tell just by seeing if someone is an H1B. They could be “foreign looking” or non-White in your perception of what is American and foreign looking, but to obtain high level security clearance they HAVE TO BE citizen or at least Green Card. In most cases even Green Card is not enough. To say H1bs work with high level security clearance is pure BS. End of story. Period.

So are you saying American companies are discriminating against Americans? Find out how many Master's degree India and China produces and compare with how many we produce and get back to me. Why does the government or American companies have to spend time and money training Americans? Its not like companies need to lower cost, make profits and stay in business right? They can sure be as wasteful the government, after all people are entitled to it. Go figure how much money Government spends to train people in India.

24 posted on 09/10/2009 11:25:18 AM PDT by Rookie Cookie
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To: Rookie Cookie

>>Find out how many Master’s degree India and China produces and compare with how many we produce and get back to me

Scarier is the ratio of foreign born PhD’s in America’s Scientific programs. If you can enter one of the Indian Institutes of Technology, it is now wonder so many come here for even more advanced studies.

The patent ratio is a troubling indicator as well.

Up until now, most PhD’s stayed in the US, now I understand the trend is shifting.

Science and the very concept of Progress has not achieved the level of opprobrium in India and China that it has been successfully tarred with here.


25 posted on 09/10/2009 12:12:39 PM PDT by swarthyguy (MEAT, the new tobacco. Your right to eat meat ends where my planetary ecosystem begins.)
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