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Is Obama Forming a “Shadow Government?”
Hot Air ^ | 9/7/09

Posted on 09/07/2009 10:38:28 PM PDT by FromLori

Today, President Barack H. Obama appointed yet another “czar”, making the announcement at an AFL-CIO Laborious Day picnic in Cincinnati today; Ron Bloom will make the 33rd Obamic Czar, counting Van Jones, who just resigned but will surely be replaced with a less explosive (but every bit as Marxist) appointee, and after Obama taps someone else to fill Bloom’s old position as Car Czar.

Thanks to Glenn Beck, who has done a bravura job of journalism, here are the Czars; entries in blue are those Czar positions created expressly by Barack Obama:

Richard Holbrooke — Afghanistan Czar Jeffrey Crowley — AIDS Czar Ed Montgomery — Auto Recovery Czar Alan Bersin — Border Czar David J. Hayes — California Water Czar Ron Bloom — Car Czar (moved to Manufacturing Czar today) Dennis Ross — Central Region Czar Todd Stern — Climate Czar Lynn Rosenthal — Domestic Violence Czar Gil Kerlikowske — Drug Czar Paul Volcker — Economic Czar Carol Browner — Energy and Environment Czar Joshua DuBois — Faith Based Czar Jeffrey Zients — Government Performance Czar Cameron Davis — Great Lakes Czar Van Jones — Green Jobs Czar (resigned) Daniel Fried — Guantanamo Closure Czar Nancy-Ann DeParle — Health Czar Vivek Kundra — Information Czar Dennis Blair — Intelligence Czar Ron Bloom — Manufacturing Czar George Mitchell — Mideast Peace Czar Kenneth R. Feinberg — Pay Czar Cass R. Sunstein — Regulatory Czar John Holdren — Science Czar Earl Devaney — Stimulus Accountability Czar J. Scott Gration — Sudan Czar Herb Allison — TARP Czar Aneesh Chopra — Technology Czar John Brennan — Terrorism Czar Adolfo Carrion Jr. — Urban Affairs Czar Ashton Carter — Weapons Czar Gary Samore — WMD Policy Czar In each case, the One has replaced functions normally carried out by cabinets or other agencies, headed by secretaries and directors who are subject to Senate confirmation (thus accountable to the United States Congress), with unelected, unconfirmed, unaccountable apparatchiks who ultimately answer to only one person: Barack Obama.

The departments raided of their authority in favor of Czars include the Departments of State, Defense, Homeland Security, Justice, Treasury, Health and Human Services, Labor, Interior, Energy, Commerce, and Housing and Urban Development (HUD) — that’s the entire cabinet except for the Departments of Education, Transportation, and Veterans’ Affairs).

Specific sub-cabinet level agencies subject to the Senate’s “advise and consent” rules, now looted of their powers by the Obamic Czardines, include the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Office of Management and Budget (OMB), National Security Council (NSC).

A less charitable observer might conclude that President Obama is systematically creating a shadow government of special commissars, which will allow Obama to bypass congressional oversight and the checks and balances of “independent” (in a sense) agencies to rule the United States directly by decree.

Every “czar” steals some of the authority that would normally reside in the permanent bureaucracy and instead secretes it behind the impregnable wall of an Executive Order: unquestionable, uninvestigatable, unreviewable, unviewable, and of course, un-overturnable by any other branch of government. In fact, I don’t believe Congress can even subpoena a czar to testify before Congress what he’s doing and why, since the president can declare the questioning off limits under “executive privilege.”

Obama has some precedent on his side: Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt also tried to overthrow our system of constitutional checks and balances, in order to rule by diktat, with some success. Wilson (if I recall correctly) wanted virtually all power invested in the Congress (mostly the House, the “people’s legislature”), whereas FDR demanded direct presidential control “for the duration” (of the Depression and World War II — which between them endured for all twelve years of Roosevelt’s tenure — which gave him a perverse incentive not to solve either “crisis”).

Shifting more and more governmental power into the hands of a single man on a white horse, who will personally speak for and on behalf of “the people,” is a classical sign of incipient fascism… which, coupled with Obama’s nationalization of the banks, of executive pay (even within companies that didn’t take a lick of “stimulus” money), energy production and distribution, news reporting and other journalism, labor relations, medical care — and soon food consumption and the body mass of each American — makes a chilling portent of what is to come. As one of Obama’s predecessors wrote, “Everything inside the state — nothing outside the state — nothing against the state.”

I wish somebody would tell me how many elements of fascism must come bubbling to the surface of the new administration (not even a year old… seems like a hundred) before we’re allowed to suggest that Barack Obama, the head of the fish, must himself be a liberal fascist.

Must we wait until he re-enacts Wilson’s sedition act and starts throwing in prison anyone who criticizes the government, the president, or any of the president’s policies?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoczars; constitution; czar; fascism; fdr; shadowgovernment; third100days; woodrowwilson
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1 posted on 09/07/2009 10:38:28 PM PDT by FromLori
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To: FromLori

Unconstitutional to the extreme.


2 posted on 09/07/2009 10:41:32 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember; FromLori

“Every “czar” steals some of the authority that would normally reside in the permanent bureaucracy and instead secretes it behind the impregnable wall of an Executive Order: unquestionable, uninvestigatable, unreviewable, unviewable, and of course, un-overturnable by any other branch of government.”

And I’ll add unthinkable to your unconstitutional.


3 posted on 09/07/2009 10:45:20 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: 21twelve
“Every “czar” steals some of the authority that would normally reside in the permanent bureaucracy and instead secretes it behind the impregnable wall of an Executive Order: unquestionable, uninvestigatable, unreviewable, unviewable, and of course, un-overturnable by any other branch of government.”

This being the Chicago Machine the illegal Czars will be used to cover up vast criminal activity.

4 posted on 09/07/2009 10:47:48 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FromLori
Is Obama Forming a “Shadow Government?”

Yes! Next question?

5 posted on 09/07/2009 10:51:09 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: FromLori
"Must we wait until he re-enacts Wilson’s sedition act and starts throwing in prison anyone who criticizes the government, the president, or any of the president’s policies?"

Seems so. Not a riot to be seen anywhere... Wait... nope, that's just the usual grumbling at the welfare office...

6 posted on 09/07/2009 10:51:28 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FromLori

Obama appoints yet another czar on the heels of Mike Pence calling for a cessation of the appointment of czars until Congress can review constitutionality.


7 posted on 09/07/2009 10:52:36 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have m ercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: FromLori

The Russian Revolution overthrew Ruassia’s Czar to create a socialist republic; the people of the U.S. will need to throw over an army of socialist czars to keep the U.S. free and capitalistic.


8 posted on 09/07/2009 10:53:59 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: FormerACLUmember
This being the Chicago Machine the illegal Czars will be used to cover up vast criminal activity.

A convenient network for billions of Porkulus dollars to flow through: bribes, pay-offs, hush money, community organizing shams, vote-buying, slush funds, campaign cash, retirements, etc.

9 posted on 09/07/2009 10:55:23 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: FromLori

I haven’t seen nor heard any of our elected Republican reps making any noise about this either. They are probably curled up in dark corners somewhere... as usual.


10 posted on 09/07/2009 10:55:47 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FromLori
I wish somebody would tell me...[when] we’re allowed to suggest that Barack Obama, the head of the fish, must himself be a liberal fascist.

Suggest that BHO is fascist?!!! Ha!

Barack Hussein Obama is 100% fascist.

Hey all of you libetards out there...Your boy Zero is the poster child for FASCISM. And you were afraid of GWB!!! Ha! Ha! LMAO!!!!

11 posted on 09/07/2009 10:58:26 PM PDT by kara2008 (The Answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: FromLori
I wish somebody would tell me how many elements of fascism must come bubbling to the surface of the new administration ...before we’re allowed to suggest that Barack Obama, the head of the fish, must himself be a liberal fascist.

Conservative Amercians already know what he is all about and shout it from the proverbial rooftops on talk radio.

The MSM also know what he is, but they are complicit in the attempted destruction of America.

The bleeding heart liberals who voted for a black man to assauge their guilty conscience are going to be very slow to come around to reality. They would have to acknowledge that not only did they vote for the wrong candidate for the wrong reasons, but also that the snake oil salesman who bamboozled them is a usurper who has their worst interests at heart.
12 posted on 09/07/2009 10:59:57 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: kara2008
"Hey all of you libetards out there...Your boy Zero is the poster child for FASCISM. And you were afraid of GWB!!! Ha! Ha! LMAO!!!!

well, the bright side to all this is that all those libtards existing on government handouts will be the first to feel the wrath of this broke fascist.

13 posted on 09/07/2009 11:03:43 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Canedawg
"The MSM also know what he is, but they are complicit in the attempted destruction of America."

And when this horrible wrong is corrected, they must be put on trial for their treason and shown the gallows.

14 posted on 09/07/2009 11:07:39 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FromLori
Write your senator and tell him that you heard that a czar will be replacing him and could he please send the name and address of that czar.

If everyone wrote that to their senator, we'd see some movement and accountability develop regarding the czars.

15 posted on 09/07/2009 11:10:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

That’s actually a good idea.


16 posted on 09/07/2009 11:11:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FromLori; FormerACLUmember; 21twelve; Just A Nobody; Nathan Zachary; antceecee; ...

Amazing how many of these commie-sars have ties to Center for American Progress run by John Podesta and bankrolled by Soros.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_American_Progress

I’ve been wondering who’s pulling Obama’s strings, who’s been writing these thousand-page bills - now I know.


17 posted on 09/07/2009 11:11:58 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Nathan Zachary
"Well, the bright side to all this is that all those libtards existing on government handouts will be the first to feel the wrath of this broke fascist."

You'd be the second because they'd be at your house right away demanding your 'stuff.'

Buy more ammo.

18 posted on 09/07/2009 11:13:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: FromLori
Shadow government? What shadow government?


19 posted on 09/07/2009 11:14:46 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: FromLori

Does anyone have any info on what these czars are actually doing?

What... are they just going around talking?
Giving orders to congressmen?
Giving orders to businesses?
Writing legislation?

Or are they just “advising” the president?

Who is keeping tabs on these 33 jokers?
What are they doing?
What power do they REALLY have, and HOW HAVE they exercised it???

Dont get me wrong... I’m Not defending them... THEY DONT BELONG!... but I really dont think defeating them all like Jones has been defeated is really going to work, nor will it stop the practice.

Surely these people are doing SOMETHING.

What?


20 posted on 09/07/2009 11:15:47 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Nathan Zachary
"That’s actually a good idea."

Thanks. I did email one of my senators, Jeff Sessions, tonight regarding the czars and etc.

We're losing our country.

Everyone Must Do Something Everyday.
(Even if It's just a phone call, email or letter...if everybody does something daily, we'll have a big impact)

21 posted on 09/07/2009 11:18:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"Buy more ammo".

I'm already living on top a powder keg. Good thing I quit smoking.

22 posted on 09/07/2009 11:20:40 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Safrguns
"Surely these people are doing SOMETHING."

And, they're being paid hefty salaries with our money...where does it end.

23 posted on 09/07/2009 11:20:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: Nathan Zachary
"I'm already living on top a powder keg. Good thing I quit smoking."

Ditto.

8-31-2009 was my two year anniversary of quitting smoking.

24 posted on 09/07/2009 11:22:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: Safrguns
"Who is keeping tabs on these 33 jokers?"

Nobody. They are accountable to no one.

What are they doing?

Who knows

What power do they REALLY have, and HOW HAVE they exercised it???

?? Nobody knows

25 posted on 09/07/2009 11:24:03 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: 21twelve

All the Czars can co is accept power delegated from the Unitary Executive.

That isn’t to say that is isn’t a problem. The Congressional power to review appointments to cabinet positions is there for a reason.


26 posted on 09/07/2009 11:27:29 PM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Nathan Zachary

>>> ?? Nobody knows

Somebody knows.

What do we have to do... put a tail on them?

Surely SOMEONE has a tail on them.

If they don’t, someone needs to.


27 posted on 09/07/2009 11:28:58 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: aquila48

Thanks for the link. You wouldn’t know more about a possible soros connection with this?

http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3008

http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=2994


28 posted on 09/07/2009 11:30:15 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FormerACLUmember

You can view it two ways
Obama want to create a shadow government
or
Obama is inexperienced thats why he needs so many czars to help him


29 posted on 09/07/2009 11:31:58 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: FromLori

Repubs ought to be screaming & hollering about this at every opportunity, and pin 0bozo’s ass to the wall on this!!!


30 posted on 09/07/2009 11:31:59 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: FromLori
Yes he is! Our Founding Father formed 3 branches of government which had check and balances. This whole czar thing is new and Congress should be up in arms if they had any brains.

We need to run Obama and his czars out!

31 posted on 09/07/2009 11:32:34 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: jonrick46

32 posted on 09/07/2009 11:32:58 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: donmeaker

Not getting behind the “birthers” will prove to be the biggest mistake the people in this country ever made besides voting for this Usurper.

There should have been riots and airport seized and shut down until this fraud was exposed and booted out.

We can learn lessons from people in other countries.


33 posted on 09/07/2009 11:33:54 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FromLori; jonrick46

Yes. The czars aren’t the shadow government, though, they are the visible link to the shadow government.

I think post #19 is on the money.

O is bypassing the constitution. He isn’t even being shy about it, and no one says boo.


34 posted on 09/07/2009 11:36:09 PM PDT by marron
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To: Safrguns
"Somebody knows.

Nobody on our side.

What do we have to do... put a tail on them?

well, what's stopping you from tailing one?

Surely SOMEONE has a tail on them.

Someone like who? Obama controls everything

If they don’t, someone needs to.

There is no "someone else" anymore. YOU have to stand up and be that someone. As do WE all in any way we are best able to according to each of our God given abilities

35 posted on 09/07/2009 11:41:51 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Who knows?

what is going on is well beyond what most think...this is my opinion of what is going on...

Czars?

Think one moment about the czars.

WHO needs more czars??? .....

Obama does!

Where do his allegiances lie? Who is Obama? There are many vids where he introduces his pastor,Jeremiah Wright, a man who introduced him to “his christian faith 20 years ago”. My guess is that he still retained his muslim beliefs from Indonesia.Thats why he still relates to Islam and secondly, his “ church” gave a muslim, Loius Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award...
http://www.bollywoodsargam.com/video_todayfeaturedvideo.php?blockbustermovieclip=Prhnc2fxAzg——The_shocking_video_Barack_Obama_does_not_want_you__to_see!!_featured_hollywood_blockbuster_video.html

Basically, very unamerican. Actually Anti American.....

Who is obama.. I dunno. What is he doing is unconstitutional.
Either way, face it he already has his agenda deep into play
He has already set up his parallel government with what 32 czars who were hand picked and that report directly to him.... totally bypassing the senate. This treasonous conspiracy by the MARXISTS have nothing to do with the constitution which call for the peoples input. Unconstitutional!

And he took oath to uphold the constitution...

Soon you will see him create a crisis and bring out his own militia of Black Panthers with “general” Louis Farrakhan! No seriously though, he will shift power so he is no longer the president of the US but the totalitarian Ruler of the US. He may well retain the title “pres”

Change the government! Impeach the president!

Not only Glenn Beck sees this, but Sonja Schmidt...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9yI9LCILhU

or Rev MAnning on Youtube... se his Anti American President,

or look up Larry Sinclair, Press conference part 1

Its either impeach or prepare for his seeded race/ economic war.


36 posted on 09/07/2009 11:43:56 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Safrguns
Does anyone have any info on what these czars are actually doing?

I hope military intelligence knows what they're doing because I think the military is going to have to depose zer0 and his minions within the next year or two.

37 posted on 09/07/2009 11:46:18 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marron

Just wait until he creates a calamity and enacts marshall law..... and kicks his shadow into place bypassing the senate!

Lets see... flu? another 9/11 style of attack... which he would be aware of.....

Either way, he is setting America up.


38 posted on 09/07/2009 11:47:15 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: jonrick46

That is a good start, but it’s just the tip of the iceberg. There are people like the Rockefellers, Maurice Strong, and many other rich, powerful Marxist elitists that have been running the world from the shadows, even sitting in offices next to prime ministers and presidents in other countries for decades.
No doubt Obama has been scheming with these elitists for the past week or so, organizing and solidifying the new world orders powers with them


39 posted on 09/08/2009 12:01:18 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FromLori

the shadow govt has been around for a hundred years..it’s called the CFR and they run all the politicians...they own Cheney and Obama...which of Don king’s boxers do you want to win?


40 posted on 09/08/2009 12:03:51 AM PDT by usshadley (It's time to choose..the empire or the republic? You can't have both. Time is running out.)
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To: FromLori

Ok, so where is the C.I.A. when really needed?

Question...Since this is Congresses fault for indulging this supposed President’s abuse of power, is Congress part of:

1. Letting the President’s Office do their dirty work, not wanting their DNA on the process

2. Establishing perpetual political positions for themselves

3. Criminal Negligence and dereliction of duty

4. Absolute Corruption

5. Unconstitutional actions

6. Coup upon the American people

7. All the above; equals Treason!


41 posted on 09/08/2009 12:11:37 AM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Mogollon
"I hope military intelligence knows what they're doing because I think the military is going to have to depose zer0 and his minions within the next year or two."

I'm afraid that "the next year or two" will be a year or two too late.

He's already violated his oath of office. Impeachment proceedings at the very least, should be initiated. What the heck is wrong with all those republican reps? Why are they so silent? Are they all part of it?

I'm hoping, PRAYING that there is at least ONE top general left that working on this, weeding out the conspirators that have no doubt infiltrated the highest levels of command as well.
A military coup will not be easy, that we can be certain of, and if it fails or is found out before it can happen you can be sure at that point that it will be all up to the people themselves to retake the nation.

42 posted on 09/08/2009 12:16:51 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: jonrick46

Funny how that looks like a target. But it is the wee hours (or is that the ‘wee wee’ hours?) of the morning.


43 posted on 09/08/2009 12:19:11 AM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: blam
And, they're being paid hefty salaries with our money...where does it end.

When we quit giving them money...

44 posted on 09/08/2009 12:20:43 AM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: meyer

Some late night humor: It looks like a wind mill. Where’s my horse and my lance? I think my dog, Sancho, is under the bed again.


45 posted on 09/08/2009 12:27:09 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: usshadley

I know and now even Israel National Radio is talking about it

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/09/more-global-insider-plotting.html

http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3008

http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=2994

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/1379


46 posted on 09/08/2009 12:32:10 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: meyer
"When we quit giving them money..."

That is a lot easier said than done unfortunately, which is a sad realization as to just how tight a grip we've allowed government to put on our throats.

47 posted on 09/08/2009 12:34:23 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: usshadley

One more fits if you read through the others

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/65240/zbigniew-brzezinski/an-agenda-for-nato


48 posted on 09/08/2009 12:36:03 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: meyer

And now with Obama controlling the banks, even if it were possible for business to revolt and withhold tax remittance, The government will just seize our business’s bank accounts, which would result in 100% unemployment.


49 posted on 09/08/2009 12:38:17 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FromLori

Don’t know why they call them “czars.” They’re actually commissars.


50 posted on 09/08/2009 12:46:48 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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