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Does Obama Face a 2012 Challenge In His Own Party?
Rasmuussen Repoorts ^ | September 4, 2009 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 09/05/2009 6:48:24 PM PDT by Lou Budvis

Leading liberals are already thinking the unthinkable: Challenging President Obama for the Democratic nomination in 2012.

According to a report on the left-leaning Huffington Post website, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann and Eugene Robinson, an African-American national columnist for The Washington Post, discussed just such a possibility Thursday night. Robinson said Obama needs to be careful how he handles the health care reform issue and the continuing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; barackobama; bho2012; primary
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Run Keith Run. Force 0bama even farther to the left (if that's possible) Then, Hello President Palin.
1 posted on 09/05/2009 6:48:24 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

Does Obama Face a 2012 Challenge In His Own Party?

If his poll numbers continue to drop, they will be like rats trying to find a rope to get off the ship.


2 posted on 09/05/2009 6:50:58 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Lou Budvis

Who? Hillary? Biden?

Unless the Clintons and the Kennedy’s (and other) start distancing themselves from him and (a BIG AND) start cutting him down politically and releasing the “skeletons in His Closet” ...

It Ain’t Gonna Happen!


3 posted on 09/05/2009 6:52:41 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Lou Budvis

Of COURSE the democrats will challenge him! They will be nuts if they don’t.... but I think it is too late now.
I see a big CONSERVATIVE Republican win. that is of course IF THE REPUBLICANS keep the plank to the FAR RIGHT !!!


4 posted on 09/05/2009 6:52:55 PM PDT by pollywog (staying...... " Under His Wings" Psalm 91:4)
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To: Lou Budvis

I think the Clintons are already planning Hill’s next campaign...O’s low polling numbers have poured gasoline on her ambitions...IMO.


5 posted on 09/05/2009 6:53:58 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: lonestar
I think the Clintons are already planning Hill’s next campaign

I predicted this the moment Hillary took the Sec of State job. She is just waiting for his numbers to tank, plus the excuse the resign over some foreign policy stupidity (which one of many?).

6 posted on 09/05/2009 6:56:36 PM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: Lou Budvis

This seems like a veiled (or maybe not so veiled) threat to Obama by the media that they put him in power and can and will take him out if he doesn’t do what the far left in this country wants him to do.

This might get interesting.


7 posted on 09/05/2009 6:57:27 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Lou Budvis

“Does Obama Face a 2012 Challenge In His Own Party?”

Answer: No.

Now, don’t shoot the messenger. Michael Savage has predicted that Obama will be removed from office or will be forced to resign.... I can only pray.


8 posted on 09/05/2009 6:57:36 PM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("Semper Fi!)
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To: Lou Budvis

When you think about it- this is really breathtaking.

For these people- Obama is too far to the right.


9 posted on 09/05/2009 7:00:37 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: lonestar
I think the Clintons are already planning Hill’s next campaign...O’s low polling numbers have poured gasoline on her ambitions

The problem is that she'll need to find a way to extricate herself from Obama. Being Secretary of State and distant from Obama is no mean feat, but if anyone knows "mean" it would be the Queen of Mean herself.

10 posted on 09/05/2009 7:01:01 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: True Grit
yeah his own secretary of state will be the one........
11 posted on 09/05/2009 7:01:01 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Paradox

Rightomatic! Hill hasn’t given up. Ready for one last try.
barbra ann


12 posted on 09/05/2009 7:01:04 PM PDT by barb-tex (Regardless of what you may have heard Sarah is not gone!)
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To: Lou Budvis

I hope he gets impeached before 2012.


13 posted on 09/05/2009 7:02:22 PM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: K-oneTexas
It Ain’t Gonna Happen!

It's too early. Hillary will resign as S of S after the 2010 election--Dem disaster-- and announce she is running "to save the Dem Party." I betcha!

I think that's why Hill and Bill met up in Bermuda several weeks ago...already planning and getting organized. It wouldn't surprise me if James Carville was there. You don't see him all over TV defending O...and James wore PUMA's during the last election. I think a lot of Dems don't like O.

14 posted on 09/05/2009 7:02:25 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Paradox
the excuse the resign over some foreign policy stupidity

Yep...she's gathering info to use as we speak.

15 posted on 09/05/2009 7:04:56 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Absolutely. Remember, Hilldawg ended the primary as a loser but was kicking Obama’s ass on the final month. She won’t be unprepared for the Cauci this time. Everybody will likely realize in 2012 that Obama’s change promise was as empty as the iside of his suit.


16 posted on 09/05/2009 7:05:08 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: Joe Marine 76
Michael Savage has predicted that Obama will be removed from office or will be forced to resign.... I can only pray.

Not without major loss of blood and life in the streets will that ever happen

17 posted on 09/05/2009 7:05:19 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: Paradox

She’s not been looking too good here lately being the SOS. Either the job is too much for her or she realizes Obama’s ship is sinking and taking her down with him. I think it was silly of her to give up her Senate seat for the SOS she could’ve done far more damage from there especially in another few months when everyone wakes up and notices the economy isn’t getting any better!Being the SOS she has tied herself to Obama.


18 posted on 09/05/2009 7:08:02 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Lou Budvis

They’ll lose the black vote if they nominate someone other than Obama.


19 posted on 09/05/2009 7:09:17 PM PDT by KansasGirl ( Obama's heroes have always been left-wing radicals.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Ozero needs to be more careful how he handles these issues?

LOL, what a joke. First of all, he doesnt have a clue how to govern, as he has never had a real job in his life other than stirring up ghetto crackheads.

And more importantly, he isnt trying to win the wars, and he isnt trying to work within the established paradigm.

He HATES America and is doing everything he can to undermine us. Ultimately, his plan is going to fail, thanks to the half of the country that understands what is happening.

He will go down in history as a despised despot.


20 posted on 09/05/2009 7:11:01 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: KansasGirl

Who are the blacks going to vote for? Republicans?

Don’t think so.


21 posted on 09/05/2009 7:13:44 PM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: Lou Budvis

Could MSNBC be turning against O?

Olbermann dares to utter negative things about O. Chrissie Matthews gets the bad news about Dems fleeing from O:

Charlie Cook Tells Chris Matthews Democrats are in Trouble - Video 9/4/09

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2333047/posts


22 posted on 09/05/2009 7:13:51 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: wayoverthehill

They’ll sit it out in protest.


23 posted on 09/05/2009 7:15:21 PM PDT by KansasGirl ( Obama's heroes have always been left-wing radicals.)
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To: Lou Budvis

If the libs are already considering some challenge to Obama in ‘12, he is in deep trouble, after only 8 full months in office.

Obama’s only friends are going to turn out to be the ‘moderate’ Republicans — the McCains, Snowes, Grahams, etc.


24 posted on 09/05/2009 7:15:54 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: lonestar
"It's too early. Hillary will resign as S of S after the 2010 election--Dem disaster-- and announce she is running "to save the Dem Party." I betcha!"

That's the scenario I predict too, at this time. Hillary is a leftist. The rats will need a middle-roader to not only be elected but to govern if they win. Doubtful that they will make the right choice.

25 posted on 09/05/2009 7:16:01 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama installs a fifth column inside the US Government. Why?)
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To: lonestar
I think the Clintons are already planning Hill’s next campaign.

They can plan all they like, but in my opinion the country is far too Clinton fatigued to elect her. Especially after Obama essentially "turned her out" (as his ho) during the election and after.

Hillary is damaged goods. She's been done in and humiliated by no less than TWO Democrat Presidents.

No, if the Dems are going to put up someone to challenge Obama, they'll likely find another rock star like him to do it. They already know that they'll likely have to confront the awesome and game-changing star power of Sarah Palin, so they're not going to chance a loss by choosing the old witch.

26 posted on 09/05/2009 7:18:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TomGuy
Obama’s only friends are going to turn out to be the ‘moderate’ Republicans — the McCains, Snowes, Grahams, etc. Yep, "RATS" = REPUBLICANS AGAINST TOTAL SUCCESS
27 posted on 09/05/2009 7:18:27 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (WORLD CHAMPIONS - Park View Little League - Chula Vista, CA !!!!!!)
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To: Lou Budvis

I’m betting that the Democrats won’t run anyone against Obama. It would be rough on the black vote.


28 posted on 09/05/2009 7:19:04 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: lonestar

And the Clinton’s set us up again!

You may be right with Hillary. I’ve always thought Billary gave up without a fight.


29 posted on 09/05/2009 7:21:13 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I hope he gets impeached before 2012.

Maybe he can use the birth certificate defense against impeachment. Like, you can't impeach me... that can only be applied to natural born citizen presidents. Here is my long-form birth certificate as proof!

30 posted on 09/05/2009 7:22:22 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: lonestar
NEVER count out the Clintons, unless you've bought your own grave & casket already.

People just simply have a way of running into all sorts of freaky and unnatural "accidents" and "suicides" when a Clinton really really wants then out of the picture.

31 posted on 09/05/2009 7:25:54 PM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: chris_bdba
I think it was silly of her to give up her Senate seat for the SOS - she could’ve done far more damage from there...

This was a MAJOR political error on her part.

After being pissed on and humiliated by Othuga in the primaries and in the nominating convention, she then goes on to position herself so that he's her boss?

And people think that she and Bubba are so brilliant. Bullcrap...

32 posted on 09/05/2009 7:26:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Ahh, they are starting to turn on the Bozo!


33 posted on 09/05/2009 7:26:29 PM PDT by calex59 (Hope for a new job counts for creating a job! The dimwits are truly insane.)
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To: Joe Marine 76
Michael Savage has predicted that Obama will be removed from office or will be forced to resign.... I can only pray

This has been my gut feeling since day 1 and I pray that he'll be EJECTED by his own party when they suddenly "DISCOVERS" that he ineligible to be President since he dont have a valid USA Birth Certificate.
Hopefully he wont wreck the country by then and the remaining patriots can undo the damage he's done to the country quickly!!

34 posted on 09/05/2009 7:31:56 PM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: SE Mom
When you think about it- this is really breathtaking. For these people- Obama is too far to the right.

Not for all of them, many of them, in fact many party leaders, know that his radical agenda is ruining the party, the last thing they want is someone more radical than Bozo. However, the base, such as the DUmmies and Koskids want a full blown communist attack on the country.

35 posted on 09/05/2009 7:32:34 PM PDT by calex59 (Hope for a new job counts for creating a job! The dimwits are truly insane.)
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To: C210N

You made me LoL .. :)

I want the czars to make his empire crumble which would force impeachment and he can go whine and sob to pseudo rev wright and ayers..who should be treated as outcasts for their disgusting behaviour. Especially weatherunderground bomber ayers.


36 posted on 09/05/2009 7:34:07 PM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

They’ll stop at nothing to get their public option...even if it looks like they’re turning against him.


37 posted on 09/05/2009 7:37:21 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: lonestar
I think that's why Hill and Bill met up in Bermuda several weeks ago...already planning and getting organized. It wouldn't surprise me if James Carville was there. You don't see him all over TV defending O...and James wore PUMA's during the last election. I think a lot of Dems don't like O.

I'd bet..(Stalinist) 0Bambi; had that secret Mtg. taped and
arranging "appropriate" countermeasures already......


38 posted on 09/05/2009 7:38:21 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: KansasGirl
They’ll lose the black vote if they nominate someone other than Obama.

I believe that Obama will prove to be the Democrat party's undoing on a whole lot of levels.

Blacks will almost certainly revolt if the party doesn't now carry "the struggle" forward into the next few elections, and deliver the "utopia" they believe is their due.

Now that they've gotten to the top of the mountain, they're not likely to accept anything but Obama in 2012, and another "person of color" in 2016.

The Dems may try to appease them by going along with the strong-arm program (they're already pretty good at appeasement, ya know), and put Obama or some equally empty suit in the running, but they'll likely be defeated in a terrible landslide.

The party power players know this, but are now stuck in a corner they cannot get out of. I'm sure they had no idea what they were messing with when they allowed the hard-core radicals and the black racist crew to take the helm. There's little chance of the adults ever taking back power now.

39 posted on 09/05/2009 7:40:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: prophetic
This has been my gut feeling since day 1 and I pray that he'll be EJECTED by his own party when they suddenly "DISCOVERS" that he ineligible to be President since he dont have a valid USA Birth Certificate.

That may only happen after the 2010 elections -- especially if the House Dems lose significantly and Pelosi loses the Speakership and/or Reid loses his Senate seat.
40 posted on 09/05/2009 7:47:35 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Lou Budvis

Too funny...the thought there might be a bus (public bus of course) out there that already has Obama’s name on it...bump, bump...


41 posted on 09/05/2009 7:48:11 PM PDT by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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To: ElectronVolt

Hillary will split sometime in the next year over Obama’s kiss ass to the arab world. She has this so well planned. The former Senator of NY the largest Jewish population in the US much less the world.

So Goes NY the FLA and the American Jewish vote that fueled the Obama campaign war chest.

You weight and see. This will be a death blow to Obama’s 2nd term chances.


42 posted on 09/05/2009 7:50:40 PM PDT by ncfool (Cash for Clunkers - A big failure and Obama and rats want us to trust them with our healthcare!)
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To: Windflier

“I think it was silly of her to give up her Senate seat for the SOS - she could’ve done far more damage from there...
This was a MAJOR political error on her part.

After being pissed on and humiliated by Othuga in the primaries and in the nominating convention, she then goes on to position herself so that he’s her boss?

And people think that she and Bubba are so brilliant. Bullcrap... “

Well look at it this way, look at all she has taken from ole Bill over the years, it’s the classic battered wife thing. Bill treats her like sh!t and along comes Obama and he does the same thing, it must be meant to be! I think she took it because it gave her foreign policy experince, atleast more than the bullets she dodged in Kosavo! ;) I’m sure it isn’t working out very well for her right now. I’m surprised she hasn’t wanted to run for Governor of New York?


43 posted on 09/05/2009 7:54:00 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Lou Budvis

What elections????


44 posted on 09/05/2009 7:55:42 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: KansasGirl

That’s OK too. It will only help Republicans if no blacks vote.


45 posted on 09/05/2009 7:55:53 PM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: Kimberly GG
The pubs do not represent a real challenge , so the only challenge will have to come from the dems. There is no pub that i know of that can beat him. They will do what they always do , put up a party hack rino . The only play that makes sense is to concentrate on the congress.
46 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:18 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: Windflier

Well, if he gets health care passed none of that will matter. It will forever change the politics of the US. It’s really the whole ballgame. So, whatever needs to be done must be done in the next few weeks to stop it or it will be too late.


47 posted on 09/05/2009 8:21:55 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: LibFreeOrDie

“Could MSNBC be turning against O?”

Follow the ratings, then follow the money, then...yep.


48 posted on 09/05/2009 8:22:14 PM PDT by JavaJumpy
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To: lonestar
Hillary will resign as S of S after the 2010 election--Dem disaster-- and announce she is running "to save the Dem Party." I betcha!

And, THAT my FRiend is EXACTLY what will happen. I have believed that ever since they marginalized Hillery by sending her to The Congo.

And, to add insult to injury, N Korea comes to call & they meet with Bill Richardson. WTF? I thought Hillery was our biggest diplomat?

Make no mistake.....SHE'S PISSED!

49 posted on 09/05/2009 8:22:16 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: al baby

Not without major loss of blood and life in the streets will that ever happen

And this is a problem? Just nourishing the tree of Liberty.

This will not be a fair fight, with 100 mil holding 500 mil weapons.


50 posted on 09/05/2009 8:22:59 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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