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Sex and the Married Man (How Helen Gurley Brown inspired a generation of home-wreckers...)
The Atlantic ^ | 9/4/09 | Caitlin Flanagan

Posted on 09/04/2009 4:51:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway

SHE’S 87, STILL KICKING, and almost certainly still dieting, and the old bird has earned herself a scholarly biography the hard way; if Helen Gurley Brown’s journey from the outhouses and tent revivals of the Ozarks into the cocktail parties and four-color closings of the Hearst Corporation can’t make a corker of a story, nothing can. Bad Girls Go Everywhere, by Jennifer Scanlon, a gender and women’s-studies professor at Bowdoin, is a comprehensive report on HGB theory, which is in a revisionist phase. It rejects the earlier view, long held by giants of the women’s movement such as Gloria Steinem, who believed (per Scanlon) that Brown was a scourge who “enhanced men’s rather than women’s lives by turning women into sexually available playmates.” Instead, we are asked to consider Brown “a pioneer, a founder of the second wave.” Brown “has largely been left out of established histories of postwar feminism’s emergence and ascendance,” and this book purports to correct the record, telling the true story behind her “very particular and still-relevant brand of feminism.”

The central argument, in précis: second-wave feminism—with its endless reading lists and casually divorced breadwinners, its stridently unshaven armpits and Crock-Pots of greasy coq au vin—was fine for the educated set, the B.A.-in-anthropology, little-bit-of-money-put-aside women who could get themselves master’s degrees in library science, peel off the Playtex 18-Hour Living Girdle one last time, and divest themselves of the whole maddening, saddening, 24-Hour Living Death of mid-century housewifery. But the movement wasn’t much of a starter for the young women of the American steno pool—call them the Seven Thousand Sisters—who barely made it all the way through Doctor Zhivago, let alone The Second Sex, and who, moreover, had no desire to go through life looking like Sasquatch and feeling angry all the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: culturewars; feminism; johnedwards; marriage; radicalfeminists
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This article is really about, John Edwards, Elizabeth Edwards, and Rielle Hunter, but you have to read a long word to get there.
1 posted on 09/04/2009 4:51:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Too many adjectival phrases.

Also, I had to look up “coq au vin” and was disappointed to discover that it isn’t necessarily something dirty.


2 posted on 09/04/2009 4:56:58 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: nickcarraway

Those who work to increase the entropy of society have the wind at their backs.

While they’re here, anyway.


3 posted on 09/04/2009 4:58:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: nickcarraway

You know, all other major points aside, if I make it to 87 I’m going to stop dieting!


4 posted on 09/04/2009 4:58:47 PM PDT by T Minus Four (I'm all wee-weed up!)
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for the post, Nick.


5 posted on 09/04/2009 5:00:40 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: nickcarraway

The Edwards? I would have thought Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.


6 posted on 09/04/2009 5:03:02 PM PDT by Morgana (No one has ever had an idea in a dress suit. - Sir Frederick G. Banting)
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To: nickcarraway
It really is kind of pathetic. If women like Helen Gurley Brown et al. had gotten some a little more regularly, we might not have had a feminist movement at all.
7 posted on 09/04/2009 5:06:17 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: nickcarraway
Original slut in the city
8 posted on 09/04/2009 5:07:27 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: hinckley buzzard
If women like Helen Gurley Brown et al. had gotten some a little more regular

There ya go Hinckley, fixed that right up for ya, lol
9 posted on 09/04/2009 5:09:28 PM PDT by mkjessup (Hey Comrade 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House!!!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

But it should be a crime if it’s greasy, oui?


10 posted on 09/04/2009 5:16:28 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: TopQuark

You are welcome.


11 posted on 09/04/2009 5:16:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: y6162

That picture is not big enough, I can barely see it.


12 posted on 09/04/2009 5:21:42 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: Graybeard58

She’s a big slut.


13 posted on 09/04/2009 5:24:33 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: nickcarraway

This photo was taken in 2007.
If I am blessed to reach the age of 85,
I PRAY I will NOT feel inclined
To wear fish-net hose, halter top and a mini skirt
IN PUBLIC.

14 posted on 09/04/2009 5:26:17 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: y6162
She’s a big slut

Nothing worse than an 87 year old slut.

15 posted on 09/04/2009 5:33:49 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: nickcarraway

Great article. Loved it.

parsy, who says thanks for finding this!


16 posted on 09/04/2009 5:34:57 PM PDT by parsifal (Dare I mention the term common sense? Book of Vinnie - Chapter 58 Verse 1 (The Boomer Bible))
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To: yorkie
I agree. She looks rather pathetic! A friend or family member should have told her that. I am sure she is thinking she looks young and sophisticated, but obviously she does not. Even at 87 one does not have to dress like a grandma. There are many options between dressing like someones grandmother and dressing like a 21 year old who is trying to attract attention.
17 posted on 09/04/2009 5:42:46 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Graybeard58

But made a lot more money than a lot more men.

you have to give her credit for coming out of appalachia and making it financially. She is the ultimate capitalist and is conservative...and for THAT I give her credit!

And THAT is why the Lefty feminnists never liked her or gave her any credit...after all, the Lefties look down on any “Hillbilly’ who made it in the capitalist world.


18 posted on 09/04/2009 5:51:51 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: yorkie

Angela Lansbury, however, looks elegant and lovely.


19 posted on 09/04/2009 5:56:25 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: y6162
To imply that it is entirely the wife's fault if he strays is insulting. And the expectation that the wife be everything he could possibly need is not women's lib. ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
20 posted on 09/04/2009 6:05:10 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: tbw2

“To imply that it is entirely the wife’s fault if he strays is insulting”

I agree. Not that I know, but I have been told that men stray because women find them attractive and want to have sex. Males don’t like to say no.


21 posted on 09/04/2009 6:10:19 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: yorkie

Helen, Helen. What were you thinking? Seriously.


22 posted on 09/04/2009 6:13:53 PM PDT by Faith
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To: nickcarraway
"The Second Sex, and who, moreover, had no desire to go through life looking like Sasquatch and feeling angry all the time."

Reminds me of recent photo the American Queen walking her dog.

23 posted on 09/04/2009 6:20:07 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: T Minus Four

Amen, Sister. If I still have teeth, then I WILL be eating what I want.


24 posted on 09/04/2009 6:54:17 PM PDT by altura (Sarah for President)
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To: yorkie

Angela Lansbury looks very nice. the other person in the picture ... the kindest thing I can say is that she is embarrassing herself and nauseating the rest of us.


25 posted on 09/04/2009 6:56:04 PM PDT by altura (Sarah for President)
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To: Nevadan; yorkie; Iowan; azishot; mojitojoe; Fred Nerks; Lady Jag; Daffynition; Slings and Arrows

My 76 year old neighbor wears mini-skirts and fishnet stockings with black leather, high heel boots. It’s an real effort to not laugh when she visits.


26 posted on 09/04/2009 7:34:04 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Rebelbase
............... does this dog make me look fat?

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

27 posted on 09/04/2009 7:39:35 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT
A metaphor for HGB and Cosmo...


28 posted on 09/04/2009 7:45:05 PM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: LucyT

Lucy - LOL! Like the ‘fluffy’ lady who came out of the dressing room wearing a ‘thong’ bathing suit. She said to here husband, sitting in a chair waiting for her, “Does this thong make me look fat?”

ROTF!!!


29 posted on 09/04/2009 7:50:46 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: LucyT

There you go again, LucyT...giving MO more *fashion* ideas!


30 posted on 09/04/2009 7:57:58 PM PDT by azishot
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To: LucyT

31 posted on 09/04/2009 8:02:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: yorkie

Wow she’s had alot of plastic and botox.


32 posted on 09/04/2009 8:06:23 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Fred Nerks

She is SOOOO dead when Michelle finds out that honky bwitch done stole her dress and did that

33 posted on 09/04/2009 8:09:06 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: y6162

Who’s, she looks not guilty!


34 posted on 09/04/2009 8:11:09 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Inspectorette

“Angela Lansbury, however, looks elegant and lovely.”

Whoever that is.


35 posted on 09/04/2009 8:13:08 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: visualops; LucyT

My question is this: Why would a ‘woman’s libber’ want to look ‘sexy’?

And, of course this is NOT sexy, IMHO! Of course, you men may think something different. You may think this is one hot-to-trot EXCITING woman. (But, I doubt it.)

We are looking at a TOTAL dichotomy here!

(And, a sad look at a woman who doesn’t appear to know what or who she really is - (or what a woman of 87 should be.)


36 posted on 09/04/2009 8:17:42 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: nickcarraway
"Born in an Arkansas hollow in 1922, fatherless by 10, Brown was poor—dirt poor—from the get-go" Why does Reba singing Fancy come to mind?
37 posted on 09/04/2009 8:19:41 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Graybeard58

“...Nothing worse than an 87 year old slut...”

Wanna make a bet? Look at post 14. Imagine an 87 year old nekkid slut.

Reminds me of that scene in the movie Kingpin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zIDgPVg9HM&feature=related
(warning skanky, greasy Landlady) The fun starts at 35 seconds in.


38 posted on 09/04/2009 8:23:21 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Green will NEVER be the color of 9/11.)
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To: nickcarraway

I read the whole thing and I am disgusted. I don’t understand how any woman can sleep with another woman’s husband.


39 posted on 09/04/2009 8:32:18 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: kalee

Good point. I was never crazy about that song.


40 posted on 09/04/2009 8:56:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: dalereed
Whoever that is.

Far more people know who she is instead of Helen Brown.

41 posted on 09/04/2009 9:01:38 PM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: sausageseller

I have no idea who either one is!


42 posted on 09/04/2009 9:02:26 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: yorkie
If I am blessed to reach the age of 85, I PRAY I will NOT feel inclined To wear fish-net hose, halter top and a mini skirt IN PUBLIC

Count your blessings, she spared us 85-year old CLEAVAGE!

43 posted on 09/04/2009 9:15:59 PM PDT by T Minus Four (I'm all wee-weed up!)
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To: LucyT

an = a


44 posted on 09/04/2009 9:22:08 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: yorkie
My question is this: Why would a ‘woman’s libber’ want to look ‘sexy’?
Talk about a case of dissonance ... giving everyone around a case of cognitive dissonance (seeing is not to be believed!) ...
45 posted on 09/04/2009 9:23:24 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: altura
And if we don't have teeth? Well, who needs teeth for baked potatoes with butter AND sour cream, cheesecake, biscuits and gravy, chocolate ice cream,....

Augh! Must...stop....!!!

46 posted on 09/04/2009 9:24:01 PM PDT by T Minus Four (I'm all wee-weed up!)
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To: y6162

Anyone else notice the pad lock on that left desk drawer (NO not the broad)?


47 posted on 09/04/2009 9:25:24 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: LucyT
My 76 year old neighbor wears mini-skirts and fishnet stockings with black leather, high heel boots. It’s an real effort to not laugh when she visits.

You made me literally LOL just reading that. LOL. Thank you, LucyT. I can well imagine the stifled laughter.

48 posted on 09/04/2009 9:26:12 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (WORLD CHAMPIONS - Park View Little League - Chula Vista, CA !!!!!!)
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To: kalee

It’s pretty pathetic. Most guys I know were thought it was pretty low when Gavin Newsom committed adultery with his friend’s wife.


49 posted on 09/04/2009 9:26:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: LucyT

Aunt Bunny!


50 posted on 09/04/2009 9:27:58 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Stupid.)
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