Posted on 09/04/2009 8:50:36 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Oh Boy!
This is gonna be a great thread. Pass the popcorn.
Popcorn? This is the real buttery stuff.
I urge you to read Israeli nuclear physicist Gerald Schroeder’s web site and his scientific explanantion of the six days creation, and its correlation to the age of the Universe.
See www.geraldschroeder.com
Brief excerpt:
Light travels 300 million meters per second. So at the beginning, the two light pulses are separated by a second of travel or 300 million meters. Now they travel through space for billions of years until they reach the Earth. But wait a minute. Is the universe static? No. The universe is expanding. The universe expands by space stretching. So as these pulses travel through space for billions of years, space is stretching. What’s happening to these pulses? The space between them is also stretching. So the pulses really get further and further apart. Billions of years later, when the first pulse arrives, we read on it “I’m sending you a pulse every second.” A message from outer space. You call all your friends, and you wait for the next pulse to arrive. Does it arrive second later? No! A year later? Maybe not. Maybe billions of years later. Because the amount of time this pulse of light has traveled through space will determine the amount of space stretching that has occurred, and so how much time there will be between the arrival of the pulses. That’s standard cosmology.
Another perfect example of why young adults steer clear of the GOP. Honestly, you and yours need to have your heads examined, IMO.
I certainly do not have the perfect answer. But here is how I have reconciled Science and Faith.
I do emphatically believe that the bible represents the word of God. But, as with other literature scribed by man, it was, and is, an enduring message written for all times to a specific audience. The meaning and message is tireless. But acute understanding of the delivery often leads to confounding absolutes.
An eye for an eye conflicts with turn the other cheek if the context is not understood. When Jesus suggests that a man that causes a child to sin should have a millstone cast around his neck and thrown into the deepest sea, certain, otherwise, absolutionists want to interpret the meaning while emphatically stating that a man named Adam procreated with a woman named Eve and we are all descendants of them both (or of Abraham which includes some genealogical gaps).
In short, the bible is the word of God and includes all of the rules, regulations, hints, advice, expectations, etc. of how we are to hone our souls during this short 80 year existence to be excepted into the Kingdom of God. Jesus came to update the message to a more advanced crowd and place emphasis through activism on the eventual wealth of the “least of his people.”
I believe David killed Goliath. I believe Moses led the Egyptians out of Captivity. I do not believe that Moses lived to be 1,000 years old. But to a culture whose life expectancy was about 35, a 105 year old man outlived several generations. The Jews were slaves and I doubt their math acumen was very high. But all knew that 1000 years old was a very long life. Back then, even living to be 100 would be a miracle. Did he actually part the Red Sea? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. I believe he acted at the behest of God with divine influence and guidance to lead the Jews into the desert.
Love some.
Sweet! Here comes my favorite part! You know, where the creationists explain how hypotheses based on information from the Bible allow them to reach scientific conclusions.
Typical brainwashed Temple of Darwin fanatic recommending a procedure that ony they themselves would benefit from.
IIRC, Humphreys set up the equations for his predictions so that he’s right no matter what actually gets measured. Then he gets to claim victory. It’s kind of like how the predictions of psychics are always right, even when they’re wrong.
Talk trash to my face and see where that gets you pal.
Ok, I’ll bite, please demonstrate how Humphreys set up his equations so that he’s “right no matter what actually gets measured.”
How was that? :o)
I used to think that also, back when I was a part-time Christian. Once I began earnestly challenging my faith and reading the word of God, I asked myself if the Bible is the infallible word of God or not? Do I accept that man is fallen and put my faith in Jesus, or put my faith in men that tell me what I should believe? Do I need to observe something to believe it to be real? I’ve never seen anyone walk on water, but I believe Jesus did it.
I believe that the Bible is the divinely inspired word of God. I believe all of it, not just the parts that I’m comfortable believing.
The problem I have is assuming that a day to God Almighty is the same as a day is to us.
Why would a creator, who created something as infinitely vast as the universe, base his day upon the rotation of a tiny little planet in some galaxy? Remember, the Bible was given to man thousands of years ago, and God using the term ‘day’ may have been his way of relating what happened in terms man could understand at the time.
Are you threatening me, ChickenPox?
You should have put a comma in front of pal. Like this, "Talk trash to my face and see where that gets you, pal."
Ridiculous post.
It's just Pox. Give him a wedgy.
It must be true because our telescopes can only see light that has been traveling for 6,000 years, beyond that our telescopes either see god’s flowing robes or empty space....
The Andromeda “Galaxy” is not 100 million light years away it is only 100 million miles away. And it is not a galaxy made of stars but one made of Tapioca pudding, which is different than the milky way which is made only of cow derived dairy products....
Hmmm...perhaps it’s time for you to reevaluate the “former” in your screenname, as the ACLU very much agrees with you.
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