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Study: Gun Shows Main Source Of Guns Used In Crime
cali ^ | 9/2/09 | cali

Posted on 09/02/2009 7:08:28 PM PDT by Flavius

A new report from UC Davis researchers finds that American gun shows are the leading source of guns used in crimes, not just in the United States, but Mexico and Canada as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbs13.com ...


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1 posted on 09/02/2009 7:08:29 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

BS!


2 posted on 09/02/2009 7:09:12 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Flavius

Because when you don’t have paperwork for a gun it means it came from a gun show.


3 posted on 09/02/2009 7:10:31 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Flavius
LOL... come on, surely US gun shows cause all the crime everywhere in the world.

What's next, having the US National Grammar Rodeo in Toronto? :)

4 posted on 09/02/2009 7:11:16 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Flavius
"UC Davis researchers"

ROTFL!!! I'm still waiting for the same study results from Al Qaeda.

5 posted on 09/02/2009 7:11:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: Flavius; mylife

A local news TV news affiliate was reporting on this. And surprisingly, they reported that there was no data to back up the conclusions.


6 posted on 09/02/2009 7:12:06 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Flavius

Gunshows are also where Mexican gangsters buy grenades, full-auto machineguns and truckloads of ammo./s


7 posted on 09/02/2009 7:12:41 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Flavius

Didn’t another research study prove that global warming was the leading cause of constipation?


8 posted on 09/02/2009 7:12:54 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Enterprise

Data? when did that stop anyone.

You have feelings dont you, hopefully the correct ones if not there is a pill to fix that as well.


9 posted on 09/02/2009 7:13:10 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius
UC Davis researchers

Which anti-gun group owns these people.

10 posted on 09/02/2009 7:14:10 PM PDT by TYVets (Let’s Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: Enterprise

That is remarkable.


11 posted on 09/02/2009 7:14:10 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Flavius

More lies from the academic useful idiots. There isn’t a government a$$ an academic won’t kiss or any act too base or any lie too preposterous to tell for an academic looking to score some taxpayer funded slop from the government trough.


12 posted on 09/02/2009 7:14:52 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Flavius; mylife

It was remarkable, since it was an NBC affiliate. They reported the story, but they also debunked it. I call that remarkable!


13 posted on 09/02/2009 7:17:34 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: LukeL

Yeah all those full auto AK’s used down in Mexico by the cartels came from a U.S. gun show. Libs are like all compulsive liars. tell a lie and then forget what they lied about and trip themselves up. Hey but it’s for the kids, so it’s ok.


14 posted on 09/02/2009 7:17:55 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: Flavius

Gee, never saw that comming. /sarc


15 posted on 09/02/2009 7:18:52 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Flavius

Gosh, could this be a thinly veiled attack on the Second Amendment?!?

/sarc


16 posted on 09/02/2009 7:19:35 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Flavius
"The study also links gun shows to the neo-Confederacy movement and neo-Nazism."

They forgot to mention white supremacy and racism.

BTW, is anyone going to the big Harrisburg show next week?

17 posted on 09/02/2009 7:19:56 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: Flavius

lol i know thats not true.


18 posted on 09/02/2009 7:20:27 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Batrachian

And they call us A$$holes? Geez!


19 posted on 09/02/2009 7:21:09 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (REGISTERED RIGHT WING THUG!)
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To: Batrachian

I remember there was one rather homosexual looking guy who used to sell Nazi paraphernalia at the Miami show. Didn’t have many customers from what I recall.


20 posted on 09/02/2009 7:21:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: umgud

I heard just anybody can walk into a gun show and pick up as many RPGs as they can carry! True story!

NOT. ::rolls eyeballs::


21 posted on 09/02/2009 7:21:29 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Flavius
96,487,264 Guns owned by American Citizens were NOT used to commit a crime or KILL someone.

Armed Citizens are FREE. Unarmed Citizens are SUBJECTS!

22 posted on 09/02/2009 7:21:42 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: umgud

They must be getting there before the show even opens...that sort of stuff is pretty well picked over by the time I get there (~10 a.m. for a 9 a.m. opening)


23 posted on 09/02/2009 7:22:50 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: Flavius
Bulls***.

Quite a few of the actual studies out there are baloney. But this isn't even a study. It's a "report."

And surprisingly, they reported that there was no data to back up the conclusions.

Yeah, I had a look at the report, and could hardly find a single statement that wasn't anecdotal. The few statements that weren't anecdotal were just quotes of someone else's study.

24 posted on 09/02/2009 7:25:25 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: TYVets

Follow the Money.

Who funded the Study?


25 posted on 09/02/2009 7:26:06 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: Flavius

Another government funded pile of paper by a useless “professor” from Berkley south!


26 posted on 09/02/2009 7:27:36 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Flavius

More stuff to put around the tomato plants!


27 posted on 09/02/2009 7:29:34 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SwedeBoy2
Follow the Money.

Who funded the Study?

Three guesses,,,The Joyce Foundation, Brady or Stimulus money?

28 posted on 09/02/2009 7:31:23 PM PDT by TYVets (Let’s Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: SwedeBoy2

Probably Bloomberg, he is restless again!


29 posted on 09/02/2009 7:31:43 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: castlebrew

That was his excuse. All the activity outside the show. Needless to say that there has been an existing low that with few exceptions prohibit the crossing of state lines to purchase a gun. All those Cal plates at the Reno show. He has no facts as to what they are doing there.


30 posted on 09/02/2009 7:31:58 PM PDT by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: Enterprise

Data? We don’t need no stinkin’ data!


31 posted on 09/02/2009 7:32:07 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Flavius
“Illegal transactions were often conducted entirely out in the open,” said Garen Wintemute, professor of emergency medicine at UC Davis School of Medicine and a leading researcher on firearm violence who authored the report. “The sense of impunity among sellers and purchasers in these cases was remarkable.”

What exactly makes them “illegal transactions”? Or are we admitting the problems stem from “illegals”, who shouldn't even be in the U.S. purchasing anything?

No matter, I have a newsflash for the professor: Guns, illegal or not don't CAUSE anything. I have several that have been sitting quietly for decades. Periodically I take them for exorcise and clean and oil them and return them to their resting places. They've never once left on their own to engage in a crime spree. I know for certain, the dog would snitch on them if they did.

Perhaps the professors time would be better spent studying criminals. I have reliable information that they engage in illegal activities at a much higher rate than even politicians. Their sense of impunity, when they think no one is looking is staggering. Statistics show that 100% of firearms used in the commission of crimes has been in the possession of a criminal when the crime was committed.
Don’tcha love statistics?

32 posted on 09/02/2009 7:32:46 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: Flavius

Also on Chulak. And P83 470.


33 posted on 09/02/2009 7:35:46 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Who funded the “study”?

Perhaps it is just a case of “Running Soros Syndrome”, A.K.A RSS.

Unlike other open, draining sores, RSS does not respond to antibiotics. The only known cure is a strong dose of strict Constitutionalism.

Resistant cases should be exiled. Extremely resistant cases should be tried for treason, then drawn and quartered.


34 posted on 09/02/2009 7:37:25 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Flavius

I could find nothing supporting the thesis of the article either in the teaser or the study (headings) itself—`American Gun Shows Fueling Crime All Over New World Order, West Division’—freely admitting that I passed through this Cali-pasture quickly, watching where I stepped.
It did remind me that deer season is coming up and my B40 rocket inventory is low. Are professors in season yet?


35 posted on 09/02/2009 7:37:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (`Knowledge is Good'....... Faber College)
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To: Flavius

Who wrote that? A freshman?

He needs to go back to grade school. It would be to easy to refute the title of article much less the invented and conjured points.


36 posted on 09/02/2009 7:45:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Flavius
UC Davis

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (wipes eyes) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

37 posted on 09/02/2009 7:49:02 PM PDT by pabianice
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Hidden camera pictures in the report show dozens of private party or unlicensed gun purchases where no identification is requested or shown.

Well, I doubt that richly, but if that were true, then I'm sure that it would have been borne out of a desire to avoid FOSTERING AN ATMOSPHERE OF INTIMIDATION.

Or wishing to avoid establishing unreasonable barriers, ya know...?

1. Must show ID to enter Town Hall

2. Must show ID to buy firearm

3. No need to show ID to vote

38 posted on 09/02/2009 7:49:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

39 posted on 09/02/2009 7:51:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: proud_yank

No, they proved that gun shows cause global warming.


40 posted on 09/02/2009 7:52:04 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Flavius

I can only think of what the band FEAR sang about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PmO9Pavqc


41 posted on 09/02/2009 8:05:12 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: umgud

Gunshows are also where Mexican gangsters buy grenades, full-auto machineguns and truckloads of ammo./s


Prices are often lower at gun shows. I get all of my grenades at the shows for almost 1/2 price. They even give steeper discounts if you buy a tank or howitzer. /s


42 posted on 09/02/2009 8:06:36 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

It’s amazing how many doctors are moonbats.


43 posted on 09/02/2009 8:06:44 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO and SEIU.....two domestic terrorist organizations doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: sig226

Heh, probably a couple of leftists working out of their garage but who cares, the media will run with it as if it is a valid article...that is a real problem. Actually more like a few university asshats that decided to make things up and push their agenda... Nothing that the leftists in the media won’t fall for though...


44 posted on 09/02/2009 8:06:45 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Flavius
prove it!!! no sales slip no proof.
45 posted on 09/02/2009 8:07:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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It's a misleading title. Leave it to cBS.

"The study state that 85% of recovered crime guns have gone through at least one private party transaction following their initial sale by a licensed retailer."

Yeah, steal a gun and sell it.

46 posted on 09/02/2009 8:09:17 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: Flavius

Dang, why don’t we just make crime illegal?


47 posted on 09/02/2009 8:11:06 PM PDT by The Watcher
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To: sig226

Zero’s ORGANIZED COMMUNITIES of Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Philadelphia, D.C., L.A., SF, Boston, etc. along with the gang bangers, illegal mayhemers, border drug terrorists, etc. don’t need gun shows to get their weapons and they’re skewing our longevity numbers by targeting our young people. U.C.Davis, take a hike.


48 posted on 09/02/2009 8:11:18 PM PDT by yorkie01
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To: Flavius

This is just like lefty fraud Bellisile a few years ago and his stool specimen: `Arming America which was shown to be made from whole anti-2nd Amendment cloth; and also the bogus charge earlier this summer used in the talking points of a chorus of liberals: that 90% of arms seized in Mexico are from our country.
Even their `academics’ say things that would make a murder of old crows blush; they should be ashamed of themselves for misrepresenting the truth on this issue in order to pander to their paymasters and safely remain in ivory tower, mortar board/helmet defilade.


49 posted on 09/02/2009 8:15:23 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: mylife
I agree, I too call BS! If Wintemute is involved, it's wrong.
Fom democraticunderground ...

“Pretty much, and every publication by that group is about firearms, not the real causes of violence

They obviously have an axe to grind.”
Their words, not mine!

50 posted on 09/02/2009 8:20:15 PM PDT by simi_ed
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