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Report: AFL-CIO Pushes Tax on All Stock Transactions
Foxnews ^ | 9/2/2009 | Staff

Posted on 09/02/2009 6:19:11 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

After the federal government put up hundreds of billions of dollars to bail out Wall Street, the largest labor union in America wants those firms to return the favor.

The AFL-CIO reportedly is promoting a proposal to tax every single stock transaction, and it's gained some support among Democrats.

According to The Hill, the tiny tax would be about a tenth of a percent -- but it could mean a lot of money for companies, like Goldman Sachs, that are making billions and conducting a high volume of trades.

Union policy director Thea Lee told the newspaper that the tax could raise between $50 billion and $100 billion annually for the federal government, but also serve to discourage "speculative financial activity." In other words, the kind of lightning-fast trading conducted by mega-firms which critics say leads to volatility.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aflcio; biglabor; idiocy; unions
I think a tax on the air is next.
1 posted on 09/02/2009 6:19:11 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA
Let me tell you how it will be; There's one for you, nineteen for me. 'Cause I�m the taxman, Yeah, I�m the taxman. Should five per cent appear too small, Be thankful I don't take it all. 'Cause I�m the taxman, Yeah, I�m the taxman. (if you drive a car, car;) - I�ll tax the street; (if you try to sit, sit;) - I�ll tax your seat; (if you get too cold, cold;) - I�ll tax the heat; (if you take a walk, walk;) - I'll tax your feet. Taxman! 'Cause I�m the taxman, Yeah, I�m the taxman. Don't ask me what I want it for, (ah-ah, mister Wilson) If you don't want to pay some more. (ah-ah, mister heath) 'Cause I�m the taxman, Yeah, I�m the taxman. Now my advice for those who die, (taxman) Declare the pennies on your eyes. (taxman) 'Cause I�m the taxman, Yeah, I�m the taxman. And you're working for no one but me.
2 posted on 09/02/2009 6:20:00 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Let me tell you how it will be;
There’s one for you, nineteen for me.
‘Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t take it all.
‘Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

(if you drive a car, car;) - I’ll tax the street;
(if you try to sit, sit;) - I’ll tax your seat;
(if you get too cold, cold;) - I’ll tax the heat;
(if you take a walk, walk;) - I’ll tax your feet.

Taxman!

‘Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Don’t ask me what I want it for, (ah-ah, mister Wilson)
If you don’t want to pay some more. (ah-ah, mister heath)
‘Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Now my advice for those who die, (taxman)
Declare the pennies on your eyes. (taxman)
‘Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

And you’re working for no one but me.


3 posted on 09/02/2009 6:21:25 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s time for the commies down at the AFL-CIO to get the hell out of my government. If they don’t, I would think an investigtion would be in order.


4 posted on 09/02/2009 6:25:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’ll go for this tax, if in return there is also a tax levied on all politicians - 5% of their annual salary for every vote in favor of a tax increase, for life, and retroactive to their 18th birthday.


5 posted on 09/02/2009 6:26:58 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Like this is any of their damn business.


6 posted on 09/02/2009 6:28:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Red in Blue PA

At what point did the AFL-CIO become the shadow government?


7 posted on 09/02/2009 6:30:31 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think taxes on union dues, collective bargaining and socialist rhetoric would make more sense.


8 posted on 09/02/2009 6:31:21 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: garbanzo

They are now on the NY Fed!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2323330/posts


9 posted on 09/02/2009 6:32:23 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Right on and since when has raising revenue for the federal government been a concern for the AFL-CIO?


10 posted on 09/02/2009 6:32:24 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (WORLD CHAMPIONS - Park View Little League - Chula Vista, CA !!!!!!)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Perfect!


11 posted on 09/02/2009 6:47:59 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Red in Blue PA

Who gives a rat’s ass what the unions want. They represent less than 10% of the people in this country, and yet they are allowed to influence politics with huge donations to the democrats. That needs to end.


12 posted on 09/02/2009 6:48:29 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: Red in Blue PA

If this happens, I think one could comfortably short the DJIA to about 2000. I guess we’ll find out if Goldman Sachs rules the universe by how this one comes out.

I am convinced this is part of a barrage of stupidity aimed at overwhelming oppositition to health care and cap & trade, their core issues.


13 posted on 09/02/2009 6:49:08 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Monday is piss on a unionist day

If you see some one in a union, yank their chain

Make them lose what little self esteem they have.......

attack attack attack


14 posted on 09/02/2009 6:52:56 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Union policy director Thea Lee told the newspaper that the tax could raise between $50 billion and $100 billion annually for the federal government, but also serve to discourage "speculative financial activity." In other words, the kind of lightning-fast trading conducted by mega-firms which critics say leads to volatility

Well which is it? Get $50b to $100b in taxes on $50 trillion to $100 trillion of transactions (0.1% tax) or cut down the number of speculative transactions. If you cut down the transactions so people aren't buying and selling stocks multiple times a day, then the tax will not get the amount desired.

The most likely result is that the trading will just leave New York and Chicago to go to London and Hong Kong.

15 posted on 09/02/2009 6:53:26 PM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Opposition to this tax is nothing more than Reductio Ad Liberalum. A financial transaction tax is one of the most efficient kinds of taxes around. It has far fewer negative consequences than an income/payroll tax or a consumption tax.

Obviously, more taxes is always bad. But our tax system would be much improved if we substantially reduced income taxes in favor of a financial transaction tax.

16 posted on 09/02/2009 6:53:44 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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To: garbanzo

When they won

Don’t forget, they won.


17 posted on 09/02/2009 6:53:54 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Listen up..... there was no mention of tax reduction. This tax is purely income redistribution. It is payoff.


18 posted on 09/02/2009 6:56:28 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

They aren’t proposing tading one tax for the other they want more taxes period. Personally I am tired of the social engineering via taxes and deductions and want to take the power away from Congress and the special interest groups that own them.


19 posted on 09/02/2009 6:59:31 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: garbanzo

“At what point did the AFL-CIO become the shadow government?”

With all his “Czars”, a shadow government is what he is creating.

This is exactly what Saddam Hussein did when he assumed the Presidency in Iraq (after assassinating his predecessor). He set up a shadow government, with officers loyal to him, in every department. When all his guys were in place and functioning, he sacked the “official” government, and consolidated his power.

Coming soon to an executive branch near you.


20 posted on 09/02/2009 7:17:29 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Let’s put a tax on union dues. Each individual union member would only have to pay a few bucks per paycheck.


21 posted on 09/02/2009 7:21:02 PM PDT by revtown
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To: HwyChile
Who gives a rat’s ass what the unions want. They represent less than 10% of the people in this country, and yet they are allowed to influence politics with huge donations to the democrats. That needs to end.

And filthy disease ridden queers represent about 2% of the country and look at what they have accomplished and are accomplishing for their agenda.

22 posted on 09/02/2009 7:21:45 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This is wonderful, they are going to tax something that they themselves have destroyed, Ain’t that just the pistol whip!


23 posted on 09/02/2009 7:42:41 PM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

yup, carbon dioxide tax


24 posted on 09/02/2009 7:42:56 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: revtown

Noooooooo Tax the UNIONS for RECEIVING the DUES!!!!
I have to take my anti-psychotic meds, I’m soooooo HAPPY! Wheeee!


25 posted on 09/02/2009 7:44:28 PM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
There’s one for you, nineteen for me.


From the Beatles pre-Thatcher era when the “rich folks” actually had a 95% maximum income tax.

Do you think we are going that way here...:^)

Maggie fixed that problem and English productivity advanced into an era of prosperity, which is still not acknowledged by the present day Labourites.

26 posted on 09/02/2009 8:10:20 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Its a tenth of one percent today.......

Not to wear out a phrase, but this easily would become the "camels nose in the tent". I could see this becoming 1% rather quickly, then infinity and beyond. We are going to lose tax increasing battles, but fight new taxes tooth and nail at every turn.

The encroachment of the government into our lives, through taxes is a "boiling the frog" catastrophe.

27 posted on 09/02/2009 8:20:13 PM PDT by bPaul
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To: bPaul

I’m in full agreement with you.

But from a short term trader’s perspective, this would put me/us/them out of business immediately.

Keep in mind, there is nothing about whether a transaction is a win, loss, or draw in this. It’s strictly a tax on the gross amount of the transaction. Traders already pay commissions (of course) and exchange and SEC fees.

Imagine trading 2000 shares of a $50 stock, in > out, in > out, in > out, making 34 cents, losing 6 cents, making 22 cents. Gross equals 50 cents * 2000 = $1000. But, that’s 12,000 shares * $50 = $600K gross. Comms = about $50. AFL-CIO tax = $600. ST cap gains @ 35% of $950. = $332.

Net: $18.


28 posted on 09/02/2009 8:35:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: bPaul; All

NAIL ON THE HEAD POST!


29 posted on 09/03/2009 4:12:16 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: bPaul
Not to wear out a phrase, but this easily would become the "camels nose in the tent". I could see this becoming 1% rather quickly, then infinity and beyond. We are going to lose tax increasing battles, but fight new taxes tooth and nail at every turn.

Recall that in the 1930s Social Security was sold based on it being only $.03 on the dollar. With the FDR Administration promising that it would never, ever, rise ...
30 posted on 09/03/2009 4:16:37 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Red in Blue PA

Labor unions are businesses the same as employment agencies and should be taxed on all revenue. Unions should not be protected


31 posted on 09/03/2009 4:19:26 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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To: bert
When they won

Funny, I don't remember the AFL-CIO being on the ballot. Are we moving to some sort of soviet-style government where the Politburo of the Communist Party makes the policies and the official legislature is a rubber-stamp body?

32 posted on 09/03/2009 8:12:03 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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