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Flight 93 Memorial construction to start in Nov.
AP ^ | 9/1/2009 | DAN NEPHIN

Posted on 09/01/2009 11:44:49 AM PDT by markomalley

The federal government will pay about $9.5 million to acquire land so the Flight 93 National Memorial can be built by the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Monday.

With the National Park Service reaching agreements with eight landowners, construction is expected to start in November, Salazar said.

Salazar called the site where the plane crashed, near Shanksville in rural southwestern Pennsylvania, hallowed ground and said the nation was "eternally grateful for the heroes of Flight 93."

United Flight 93 was traveling from Newark, N.J., to San Francisco when it was diverted by hijackers with the likely goal of crashing it into the White House or Capitol. The official 9/11 Commission report said the hijackers crashed the plane as passengers tried to wrest control of the cockpit.

All 33 passengers and seven crew members died.

The agreements cover nearly 1,400 acres and include the actual impact site. That site sits on a 275-acre parcel owned by quarry business Svonavec Inc. The company and the government agreed in January to allow a court to decide the property's worth.

(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 091101; flight93; islam; islamicviolence; memorial; muslims; muslimviolence

1 posted on 09/01/2009 11:44:50 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Are they still planning to build the Mecca-facing green crescent of Muslim worship or was that plan abandoned?
2 posted on 09/01/2009 11:47:50 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: markomalley
Obama will get his Islamic Crescent / Mosk.
3 posted on 09/01/2009 11:49:02 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: markomalley

I still think the proper memorial should have been a mile in diameter of glassified desert/mountain in Afghanistan.


4 posted on 09/01/2009 11:55:35 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GonzoGOP
Are they still planning to build the Mecca-facing green crescent of Muslim worship or was that plan abandoned?

Last I heard they were.

5 posted on 09/01/2009 11:56:15 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: GonzoGOP
BUMP - Are they still planning to build the Mecca-facing green crescent of Muslim worship or was that plan abandoned? "
6 posted on 09/01/2009 11:56:53 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep

Better go see the makeshift memorial while you still can. The lifeguard station from Chincoteague Island is very poignant. I wonder if the three bibles found in the ashes, the only things that survived the crash besides a 2x2 foot piece of aluminum skin, will be put on display at the official memorial?


7 posted on 09/01/2009 12:02:55 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: markomalley

Will it be dedicated to community organizing like the actually 9-11 date?


8 posted on 09/01/2009 12:11:29 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: blackpacific

Be sure to bring along a koran and a full bladder.


9 posted on 09/01/2009 12:12:06 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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To: GonzoGOP

Bump!


10 posted on 09/01/2009 12:12:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the White Paper put out by the National Park Service about these allegations.

My father was on Flight 93 - his name was Patrick “Joe” Driscoll. I am not some poser - I am his son. If you’re going to make such comments all I ask is you please take a few minutes to educate yourself.

If even after reading this you do not change your position then we’ll simply agree to disagree. But I sincerely hope this will inform you of what is happening at the monument for the passengers and crew of Flight 93.

Page 2 is of particular interest.

http://www.nps.gov/flni/parkmgmt/upload/memorialdesignbriefingpaper.pdf

Chris Driscoll


11 posted on 09/01/2009 12:49:07 PM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: chris_in_nj

Thanks for the link. Very informative. Are you satisifed with the concept and approach to this memorial?


12 posted on 09/01/2009 12:55:32 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

You’re welcome Fester! And yes, I am very satisfied with it.

I’ve been to the crash site numerous times and the landscape form is as described in the White Paper.

People will simply see what they want to see...that is why I want them educated. It is a beautiful and peaceful field - very fitting for a memorial.

I would rather it not be tarnished due to people jumping to conclusions. Especially if they’ve never even been there.

C


13 posted on 09/01/2009 12:59:43 PM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: chris_in_nj

“Commission report said the hijackers crashed the plane as passengers tried to wrest control of the cockpit. “

No disrespect to the passengers or crew but they weren’t responsible for the left engine being found 3.5 miles back in the flight path and the right engine being found 1.5 miles back in the flight path before impact. Forcing a jet over into a dive would put the engines at the same site as the impact.

Nope - there’s another soul somewhere that will never be comforted enough.


14 posted on 09/01/2009 12:59:44 PM PDT by winged1
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To: chris_in_nj
Chris,

My condolences to you and other surviving families. The passengers were true heroes and represented America's first response to the islamic attacks.

That said, are there any drawings of the final design?

15 posted on 09/01/2009 1:02:48 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: winged1

Winged1,

No disrespect to you but please know what the hell you’re talking about before posting such crap. My father’s flight was not shot down.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=7

Please take your off your tin foil hat and leave the consiracy theory crowd.

Sorry - I get really pissed off at the CE morons.

c


16 posted on 09/01/2009 1:05:27 PM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: newfreep

New Freep,

Here you go...

http://www.nps.gov/flni/parkmgmt/designquestions.htm

c


17 posted on 09/01/2009 1:10:44 PM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: chris_in_nj

‘Sorry you feel that way and have to revert to name calling but it’s published fact as to where the engines were finally found. Just fact. Like I said, no disrespect intended. There’s no devise onboard to jetison engines.


18 posted on 09/01/2009 1:11:44 PM PDT by winged1
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To: winged1

Care to put a link on that published “fact”.

Credible sources only please.


19 posted on 09/01/2009 1:16:22 PM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: chris_in_nj
Pretty good write-up at Wikipedia. No mention of engines found miles away.
20 posted on 09/01/2009 1:49:45 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: chris_in_nj
I'm sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing your percipient knowledge of how and why the design is the way it is.

It is indeed unfortunate that the design raises questions as to how it will look in plan view.

Some depictions in the media are perhaps not accurate -- here is from the National Park Service. Perhaps it might quell some concerns .

21 posted on 09/01/2009 2:02:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Jack Black

I followed the news closely from day one. Here is one small source - note the report of the explosion “outside” and smoke coming from the plane, something the terrorists had no control over. Also a small statement about debris found (in this article) some 2 miles away. I don’t need to research further, it’s all published. This took 10 seconds on google to dig up.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/957912/detail.html


22 posted on 09/01/2009 2:04:58 PM PDT by winged1
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To: BenLurkin
Some depictions in the media are perhaps not accurate -- here is from the National Park Service. Perhaps it might quell some concerns

Still looks like a Big Red Crescent, I'm so happy the gov spent millions to tell us it doesn't.....

23 posted on 09/01/2009 2:11:49 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: winged1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flight93Engine.jpg


24 posted on 09/01/2009 2:12:06 PM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: chris_in_nj

I know someone who not only believes that 93 was shotdown but that the Pentagon was hit by a Russian cruise-missle.
I rank these people up with those who say the Holocaust never happened.
Even if 93 was shotdown, does that take away from the bravery of those on board? The people on that plane took it away from the Islamic terrorists. They were the first soliders to die in the war on terror.
That day will should ecthed into the memories of all true Americans. The Left will try to take the day away from those who deserve to be remembered, but as long as we have conservatives, this will never happen.


25 posted on 09/01/2009 3:02:34 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( If this be treason, then lets make the best of it.)
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To: markomalley

Did anybody ever see pictures of the remains of an airplane there? I never did.


26 posted on 09/01/2009 3:18:11 PM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: winged1

Nope - there’s another soul somewhere that will never be comforted enough.

What does this mean?


27 posted on 09/01/2009 3:21:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (minestra di pollo)
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To: BenLurkin

A circle that is not closed is still very close to a crescent. I still think this design is at best, unfortunate, and at worst, a slap in the face to the heroes on that flight. The memorial design should have been clear enough that no misinterpretation was possible.


28 posted on 09/01/2009 3:35:26 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (PETRAEUS IN 2012 .... Pass it on!)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I agree. And am I the only one that sees the Obama sun logo in this ?


29 posted on 09/01/2009 4:46:40 PM PDT by winged1
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To: chris_in_nj

Chris, if the design is good enough for you and your family and the other families of Flight 93, it is good enough for me. (I know, no one asked me, but that never stopped me before, LOL!)

I will be thinking of your father you & your family along with the other victims and their families on 9-11. Prayers always.


30 posted on 09/02/2009 1:19:15 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Green will NEVER be the color of 9/11.)
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To: Yorlik803

Thank you!


31 posted on 09/03/2009 7:18:06 AM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Thanks BoR....appreciate it.


32 posted on 09/03/2009 7:18:26 AM PDT by chris_in_nj (Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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