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Forensic Psych: Does Phillip Garrido Really Believe His Kids Cured Him of Pedophilia?
CBS News ^ | 8/28/09 | Carlin Miller

Posted on 08/31/2009 11:20:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway

How could four individuals, two of them captors and one of them an abducted little girl, come to live together as a family unit for eighteen years? If police have it right, not only did Phillip Garrido, Nancy Garrido, Jaycee Lee Dugard and Garrido's mother live as a family unit, but Phillip Garrido and Jaycee Lee Dugard also had two daughters together (now 11 and 15 years old).

As a forensic psychiatrist, I am interested in how this can happen and what each of them must have been thinking over all those years. Although I have examined none of these individuals, the information in the public domain provides a fascinating glimpse into an extraordinary life.

Let’s start with Phillip Garrido. Paroled as a convicted rapist in 1988. He allegedly abducted 11-year-old Jaycee Lee Dugard with the assistance of his wife, Nancy, in 1991. He then used Jaycee as his sex slave and impregnated her for the first time when she was 14 years old.

Typically, in order to rape and kidnap, someone has to think about the victim as an object and not as a human being. This makes it easier. The perpetrator thinks only about his or her own feelings, wishes, and needs. They cannot think about what the victim may be thinking or feeling. They either have no capacity to empathize (e.g., a psychopath) or force themselves not to in order to commit the crimes.

Somewhere along the way, Phillip Garrido says that he changed.

In a jailhouse interview he said that change came after the birth of his second daughter with Dugard. People that worked with him stated that "in the last couple of years, he started to get into this strange religious stuff."

He blogged in 2007 that “THIS ALL BEGAN BY GOD REMOVING A PROBLEM FROM MY SHOULDERS THAT BEHAVIORAL SCIENTIST BELIEVE IS NOT POSSIBLE TO REMOVE. SINCE THEN MY LIFE HAS SEEN MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS ALLOWING ME TO STAND HERE TODAY A FREE MAN."

Does he believe that the birth of his second daughter "cured" him of pedophilia?

Phillip Garrido and Jaycee Lee Dugard spent years together. Behavioral scientists have long discussed how someone in captivity will start to identify with their captor, may come to like them, and even feel sorry for them when they are caught (i.e., the Stockholm Syndrome).

Did that also happen in reverse in this case? Did the Garridos come to think about Dugard as a person and start to actually care for her? It is certainly possible that the births of his own daughters changed his perspective on women and sex. Only those behavioral scientists that examine him and Dugard may ever know.

In a CBS' The Early Show interview, Dugard's stepfather, Carl Probyn, said his little girl, now a woman, felt guilty.

It would be hard to know if Dugard’s reported feelings of guilt are related to feeling sorry for her biological parents who lost her or her "adoptive" parents who are now under arrest "because of her."

Nancy Garrido and Phillip’s mother, both of whom lived in the house with Phillip Garrido, are more mysterious from a psychiatric perspective. Nancy was either a cold-hearted willing accomplice or an amazingly compliant individual. Some people are so complaint as to never question the requests or commands of an authority figure.

Phillip Garrido’s mother may have not known any truths about Dugan or could have been under the psychological control of her son, Phillip. She reportedly suffers from dementia. We don't know what role that might have played.

Based on his jailhouse interview, Garrido needs a psychiatric evaluation. Based on other victims similar to her, Dugard will need extensive help unraveling her feelings about all of this. Her daughters are in a class unto themselves. Their plight is so rare that we can barely speculate as their road ahead.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: crime; dugard; garridopedophiles; psychiatry

1 posted on 08/31/2009 11:20:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

This is totally messed up. Praying for the victim(s) and children of that monster, though.


2 posted on 08/31/2009 11:27:48 PM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: nickcarraway

Maybe the problem removed from his shoulders was that in 2007 he stopped murdering his other victems if that does prove to be an act he was committing.

After all he does not state what exactly he had lifted.

Creepy dude.


3 posted on 08/31/2009 11:37:05 PM PDT by Global2010 (Chic Conservative Catholic Thug)
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To: lmr

Prayers sent from here, too.


4 posted on 08/31/2009 11:38:48 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m trying to figure out who delivered this 14 year old girl and didn’t report it to a social worker to investigate the family.

IF the “father” is another 14 year old, we don’t prosecute, but we usually check if the “Father” is a sexual predator who needs to be arrested.

Who paid the insurance? Or were they on welfare? No one got suspicious? Usually insurance companies insist on checking if the kid is yours before they pay the bill...or did they deliver her at home?


5 posted on 08/31/2009 11:43:02 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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I’m trying to figure out who delivered this 14 year old girl and didn’t report it to a social worker to investigate the family.<<<<<<

Early news reports stated that she delivered at home, in the backyard compound, both times. Without any prenatal or post delivery care. Lucky to have gotten through it, if that’s correct, given the circumstances. It’s hard to imagine how the girl and her children were impacted by their situation, must have been so abnormal in every aspect.


6 posted on 09/01/2009 1:59:30 AM PDT by Mjaye
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To: nickcarraway
He blogged in 2007 that “THIS ALL BEGAN BY GOD REMOVING A PROBLEM FROM MY SHOULDERS THAT BEHAVIORAL SCIENTIST BELIEVE IS NOT POSSIBLE TO REMOVE. SINCE THEN MY LIFE HAS SEEN MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS ALLOWING ME TO STAND HERE TODAY A FREE MAN."


A civilized society would have removed the problem from his shoulders after the first offense.

7 posted on 09/01/2009 2:21:49 AM PDT by TurtleUp (flag@whitehouse.gov <------- So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: Global2010

This person Garrido is so bad that calling him creepy gives a bad name to creeps.

After they glean everything from him, he should be dissected alive to determine anything that can be determined about any possible physiological cause.

What is left after the dissection should be infected with bubonic and hemorrhagic plagues and placed on a rich looking yacht off the Coast of Somalia. That way he could perform a service to humanity.


8 posted on 09/01/2009 2:31:56 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen (Vote against the sociopathic Kenyan.)
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To: LadyDoc
IF the “father” is another 14 year old, we don’t prosecute, but we usually check if the “Father” is a sexual predator who needs to be arrested.

If she had gone to an abortion "clinic", would they have even asked about the father?

9 posted on 09/01/2009 3:59:34 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( In just two days from now, tomorrow will be yesterday. Selah.)
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