Skip to comments.Elderly Couple Forced into State Custody (Yes FORCED)
Posted on 08/31/2009 5:47:31 AM PDT by blueyon
Video at link DALLAS - Theyre not criminals. Theyve broken no laws. But theyre being held against their will by the State of Texas. Why? Its a tragic story about what can happen when you are alone in the world and lose control of your rights, your money, and your ability to complain.
Jean and Michael Kidd never imagined their retirement would play out like this. I feel like I am not in America, said Michael Kidd. I cant believe I have been hi-jacked off the street, virtually from the hospital, and imprisoned, Kidd told FOX 4.
(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxdfw.com ...
If this can happen in America without national health care imagine what will happen to people when we have national health care!
67 and 70??
I’ll bet I could still through a punch that would get somebody’s attention!
Wow. They need help outside of what the state and court are “giving”.
This is just Terry Schiavo, the sequel. She wasn't a criminal, and had broken no laws, but she was forced into a death more cruel than the worst criminal on death row can be given because she had become inconvenient to her so-called "husband", Michael.
I lived in FloriDUH at the time of Terry and I hate to see it being replayed here in Texas. Perhaps, if we raise enough h$ll with Gov. Goodhair and the Texas Legislature, WE can do what Foridians could not!!!
I live about an hour away. I wish there was something I could do to help. My parents are closer...
I’m sure this story hitting news will bring forward people willing to help, but if not, any ideas?
Aaahhhh...you’ve just gotta love those state social workers.Goodness knows that Hussein does.
"We see you have some money there. Give it to us."
Millions of Americans feel the same way. This is no longer the land of the free.
Because of creeping socialism, there will never be peace on earth until man kind has lost everything. After that, every man will sit under and tend his own vine, and no politician will be able to take it from him ever again. Without the politicians, swords will be turned into plow shares, and man will learn to war no more.
Follow the money....
What is it with Texas? Are these the same people that grabbed all those kids from the Mormon compound, and kept them even after it was revealed that the original complaint was from a nutcase crank caller? God help this poor couple.
They might have been confused and in ill health when they went into custody, but their minds seem to have cleared up. However, there is now no way out of the “incompetency” rabbit hole until somebody else speaks up for them. Good on the TV station for getting this far. Wonder how many more are in such rabbit holes?
The last sentence is the money-line. The state is ALWAYS the last resort and it sounds like another case of state "social workers" over reacting without knowing any of the facts. They do the same thing with children.
At least they’re being FED.
Bureaucracies can never love. They can only control.
Only people can care for people.
This is why historically “health care” was a function of the work of the body of Christ.
If folks want the state to replace God and His church, this horror story is what you’re going to get.
There are millions of lonely Americans right now who are finding out the hard way what the soulless state will do for them, and to them.
Liberals infest Austin like fleas.
Hello ACLU? Something useful you could do for a change?
Something is definitely not right here. These poor folks are being “jailed” for their own good and get to pay for it as well. Just wonderful. Older folks can look forward to more of this type of behavior under 0bamacare.
They seem rational to me, this is just typical government bureaucracy in action.
You bet your sweet bippy!
I'll be 66 next month and I can still "throw down" with the best of them, though not as well as I could when I was a young-un of 40 or so and thankfully, have not had any encounters in many a moon. lol
And if push came to shove and faced with a serious situation, I would let my 2 buds (Smith and Wesson) handle it for me!
What I don't understand is why they have not had a Guardian ad Litem appointed by the Court (much as they do with minors) whose responsibility and duties are to protect their clients even if that be fighting city hall???
Something smells here and it ain't purty!!!
Who is their State Representative and State Senator?
We need to find out and fill them in about this!
Something similar happened to a relative of mine years ago in TX, near Fredericksburg. Someone called Adult Protective Services on her because my elderly relative refused to sell them her riverfront property.
A caseworker had a criminal & his mother living in a car. She decided that an elderly woman (my relative) was incapable of being on her own.
She gave my relative a choice-take these people into your home to help you, or be sent to a nursing home. She intimidated my relative.
The criminal and his mother moved into my relative’s house. The criminal started forging checks on my relative’s account. He burned through the account, and then when he demanded more money and threatened to physically harm my relative, she had a heart attack and died.
My relative was very independent, a pioneer, and didn’t tell anyone what was going on. One of those, I can handle it all on my own types who won’t ask for help.
We first heard about it when a concerned person from the bank contacted one of our relatives in a nearby town because of all the account activity. Unfortunately, it was the same morning my relative died.
All of this happened in a space of about one month.
Having worked for the courts here, I can tell you that CPS and APS have some really lousy caseworkers. They want to bring cases to resolution, and will sometimes do things with the potential for the worst possible outcome to close those files.
The state bureaucracies of Texas are perpetually infected with LBJ "great society" legacy liberals. Most re-generate from UT Austin to carry on the liberal family tradition of working for the state and making a living posing their will on the rest of Texans. It's an endless and vicious cycle- a poster example of what Obama land cradle to grave statism will look. like on a national scale.
If so, their senator is Craig Estes and rep. is Jodie Laubenberg. Both are republicans.
I have contacted my Texas and Congress Critters on this. Hope they do something about this.
I have contacted John Cornyn, Ted Poe, John Culberson and Dan Patrick.
I am also contacting Gov Perry.
The story says they do not have family that is close, does that mean there is family. Where the hell are they.
Something is missing from the story.
Good Lord!..........$11,000 and the state just took it?...........
70...it’s the new 90!..............
I believe Collins County is were to start in defense of this couple as that is were the probate court was
You will go for your 5 year counseling session at 80 years old —— you won’t come back.
The failed sportscaster and radio guy?
They both suffer from dementia and there are no surviving family members to help?
Welcome to the Obama future!
Why would you say that?
Read the following article that mentions this couple. It's down right spooky what's happening in Texas.
Broadcast tells of probate court appointing questionable guardianships
August 26, 5:27 PM
Bell County Legal News Examiner
The actions of probate courts (or other courts handling probate matters) are becoming increasingly controversial due in part to guardianship actions which functionally transfer control of a person's life and property to a court-appointed administrator.
KDFW, FOX 4 in Dallas/Fort Worth, aired an important story about Jean and Michael Kidd of Richardson (TX) whose lives have been overtaken by a Collin County probate court.
Court-appointed guardianships are a growing trend. According to The Texas Probate Web Site, guardianships are defined as: "a court-supervised administration for a minor or for an incapacitated person. A person -- called the guardian -- is appointed by a court to care for the person and/or property of the minor or incapacitated person -- called the ward. In some other states, guardianships are called conservatorships, but in Texas they are called guardianships."
The site provides these definitions of a "minor" and an "incapacitated person": "A minor is a person younger than 18 years who has never been married or who has not had his or her disabilities of minority removed by judicial action. A minor is considered an incapacitated person. An adult who, because of physical or mental condition, is substantially unable to provide food, clothing or shelter for himself or herself, to care for his or her own physical health, or to manage his or her own financial affairs is considered an incapacitated person. The definition of incapacitated person also includes a person who must have a guardian appointed to receive funds due the person from any governmental source."
Two types of guardians/guardianships exist: a guardian of the person and a guardian of the estate. The guardian of the person takes care of a ward's physical well-being while care of a ward's property may be assigned to a guardian of the estate. A ward may be assigned only one type of guardian, but in other cases, both types of guardians are assigned with sometimes the two guardianship roles being filled by one person.
Texas is currently experiencing rapid population growth. With that, a recent five-part series addressed Is Texas' population growth a "stimulus" for estate looting, probate abuse?
Today's seniors with their accumulation of wealth are an especially attractive population segment, but probate exploitation and estate thefts increasingly impact Americans of all ages. These Involuntary Redistribution of Assets (IRA) actions use wills, trusts, guardianships and sometimes powers of attorney to loot assets of the dead, disabled or incapacitated.
With guardianships, a person loses control of their individual liberty as well as their property. While guardianships are often associated with the elderly, the mentally or physically disabled or anyone incapacitated via illness or injury can also be subjected to this status. Family members may serve as guardians, but a new industry has evolved and been in a growth mode as courts increasingly elect to use professional guardians.
The use of probate venues and legal instruments like wills, trusts or guardianships to confiscate or divert resources - and with guardianships, also potentially deny individual freedom - is becoming more common. Without direct involvement, few people realize how these things occur. Despite being labeled "incapacitated" by a court, Jean and Michael Kidd appear to well understand that guardianships can functionally hijack people's lives.
In some cases, the targeted parties may need some type of assistance. However, the intrusive approach along with the questionable denial of freedom and/or confiscation of assets increasingly used by many government entities should serve as a warning to all Americans who value personal freedom and property rights.
Forewarned is forearmed.
Because he’s a failed sportscaster and radio guy.
There was a story just the other day on FR where that happened.
I thought TEXAS was a personal freedom state...?
I had an aunt with Alzheimer’s living in a distant state, who would fog in and fog out. The neighbor of the aunt, the family and I learned too late, was apparently emotionally abusing her to turn her against her family. She would only go clear in the presence of the neighbor, fogging out in presence of family.
You have an axe to grind but what?
States can be full of paradox. “First in gay marriage” Vermont has the least restrictive gun laws in the country.
TV Sportscaster, radio host, politician..
What is the common theme?
"Look At MEEEE!!!!"
He's a self-aggrandizing attention whore.
Just my opinion.
That's why the scripture teaches us to take care of our own. In fact, it says that we're worse than the heathens if we don't.
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. (I Timothy 5:8)
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