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Homeschooled Girl Ordered by Court to Attend Public School Over Her 'Rigid' Christian Faith
Christian Post ^ | 8/28/2009 | Lillian Kwon

Posted on 08/30/2009 8:37:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Amanda Kurowski is a 10-year-old homeschooled girl who performs well academically and is socially well-adjusted. But her strong Christian beliefs were reason enough for a New Hampshire court to order her out of homeschooling and into a public school.

The daughter of divorced parents, Amanda has been homeschooled by her mother, Brenda Voydatch since first grade. Her father, Martin Kurowski, is opposed to homeschooling, arguing that it prevents "adequate socialization" for Amanda with other children. He requested that she be placed in a government school.

In the process of renegotiating the terms of a parenting plan for the girl, the Guardian ad Litem – who acts as a fact finder for the court – reported that Amanda was found to "lack some youthful characteristics," partly because "she appeared to reflect her mother's rigidity on questions of faith."

The GAL concluded that Amanda "would be best served by exposure to different points of view at a time in her life when she must begin to critically evaluate multiple systems of belief and behavior and cooperation in order to select, as a young adult, which of those systems will best suit her own needs."

Although there is no dispute that Amanda is excelling academically and is generally interactive with her peers, her religious beliefs were seen as being held a bit too sincerely, Alliance Defense Fund allied attorney John Anthony Simmons explained to The Christian Post.

"What this has become is an assault on the child’s faith," Simmons said.

Judge Lucinda V. Sadler approved the GAL's recommendation earlier this summer and ruled that it would be in Amanda's best interests to attend a public school in the 2009-2010 academic year.

"[E]ducation is by its nature an exploration and examination of new things," the court order reads. "[A] child requires academic, social, cultural, and physical interaction with a variety of experiences, people, concepts, and surroundings in order to grow to an adult who can make intelligent decisions about how to achieve a productive and satisfying life."

Sadler stated in the order that the court did not consider the merits of Amanda's religious beliefs but only the impact of those beliefs on her interaction with others.

And while the court is "extremely reluctant to impose on parents a decision about a child's education," Sadler noted that there was an absence of effective communication between the parents.

Simmons filed a motion this week asking the court to reconsider and stay its decision. He contends that the mother enrolled Amanda in three public school courses and got her involved in extra-curricular activities such as gymnastics and softball in an effort to acknowledge the father's concerns.

Evidence also reveals that homeschooling has not deprived Amanda of socialization, as the father has argued. The order issued by the court also acknowledged that Amanda is "generally likeable and well liked, social and interactive with her peers, academically promising and intellectually at or superior to grade level."

"Parents have a fundamental right to make educational choices for their children. In this case specifically, the court is illegitimately altering a method of education that the court itself admits is working," Simmons stated. "It is not the court’s role to decide whose beliefs are right or whether or not someone is as skeptical as the court thinks she should be."

"Can anyone imagine a court ordering a child out of a government school and into homeschooling because the child is a 'rigid' secularist? Of course not," he noted. "The court has intruded on the child’s most fundamental liberties and should reconsider this unconstitutional encroachment."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
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1 posted on 08/30/2009 8:37:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Previously posted thread ▬ N.H. Court Orders Home-Schooled Girl into Public School
2 posted on 08/30/2009 8:40:05 AM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this is the case that I’m thinking of, Dad pays all expenses while Mom stays home to homeschool. Since this is a divorce case, it is tricky. Dad used religion as a tool to get out of paying for everything.


3 posted on 08/30/2009 8:42:15 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll bet the farm they wouldn’t do this to a Muslim kid.


4 posted on 08/30/2009 8:42:17 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: SeekAndFind
"[E]ducation is by its nature an exploration and examination of new things," the court order reads. "[A] child requires academic, social, cultural, and physical interaction with a variety of experiences, people, concepts, and surroundings in order to grow to an adult who can make intelligent decisions about how to achieve a productive and satisfying life."

Unless those "new things" include learning about God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit right?

Folks, if you love your children you will teach them yourself and stand up against radical judges like the one that made this criminal ruling.

JMHO

5 posted on 08/30/2009 8:43:04 AM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: bk1000

With a Muslim goat the parent’s would not be divorced. Mommy would be beheaded for even thinking of divorcing her master/husband.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 8:44:57 AM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“adequate socialization” you mean she does not act like a freaking brat?


7 posted on 08/30/2009 8:49:20 AM PDT by Morgana (No one has ever had an idea in a dress suit. - Sir Frederick G. Banting)
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To: The Anti-One

“With a Muslim goat the parent’s would not be divorced. Mommy would be beheaded for even thinking of divorcing her” owner.


8 posted on 08/30/2009 8:50:16 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“lack some youthful characteristics,” partly because “she appeared to reflect her mother’s rigidity on questions of faith.”

...what “youthful characteristics”? Texting 24/7? Drinking? Sex? Gulping down 12 diet Cokes a day? Watching R rated movies? Wearing a “Che” t-shirt?


9 posted on 08/30/2009 8:50:22 AM PDT by albie
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To: SeekAndFind

Did this judge fail to read Wisconsin v. Yoder? Who has primary custody?


10 posted on 08/30/2009 8:50:41 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan (MaryJo Kopechne - the first victim of KennedyCare. Why would anyone want a ticket on that ride?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I agree; this is more of a custody and divorce case than a ‘too much religon’ case. However, the ‘too much religon sells papers.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 8:50:43 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

I think so too. However the court and it’s gaggle of bureaucrats certainly made some inflammatory statements.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 8:52:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe I missed it...but what does the CHILD want? Does that matter?


13 posted on 08/30/2009 8:57:03 AM PDT by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yup, very very interesting case.
I was wondering reading the title, just what the
“grounds” could be for such a radical intrusion into
the lives of both mother and daughter, then was made aware
it was probably hatched as a plan between a Father with a Grudge, and his lawyer. THis brings in a whole new backdoor dimension into the issue of homeschooling, which I am surprised I’ve never heard of before. Don’t know whether custody or dollars are the paramount issues, but of course the Father looks like he’s imposing his “authority” on the situation because his own money is going into supporting the girl. Thanks, lawyers, for finding so many previously hidden opportunties for yourselves.


14 posted on 08/30/2009 9:00:19 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yup, very very interesting case.
I was wondering reading the title, just what the
“grounds” could be for such a radical intrusion into
the lives of both mother and daughter, then was made aware
it was probably hatched as a plan between a Father with a Grudge, and his lawyer. THis brings in a whole new backdoor dimension into the issue of homeschooling, which I am surprised I’ve never heard of before. Don’t know whether custody or dollars are the paramount issues, but of course the Father looks like he’s imposing his “authority” on the situation because his own money is going into supporting the girl. Thanks, lawyers, for finding so many previously hidden opportunties for yourselves.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 9:00:27 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: Morgana

Or they are ‘concerned’ she is missing out on the sex education classes and sensitivity classes aka ‘indoctrination’.


16 posted on 08/30/2009 9:00:40 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SeekAndFind

The Government shall make no laws concerning the establishment of a religion unless some unelected judge deems it too ridged.


17 posted on 08/30/2009 9:01:35 AM PDT by Always Right (Oxymoron: It must be true, I saw it on the News..)
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To: supremedoctrine

The father is supporting the mother also so that she can homeschool.


18 posted on 08/30/2009 9:02:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What expenses do you mean? As a homeschooler of 3, I can speak to the fact that materials for a 10 year old are probably around $500 a year, and that’s being generous, buying mostly new.

If you refer to the possibility that Mom has no job and stays home with her daughter, then I would think that Dad should revisit the divorce decree, which no doubt established a monthly amount of support years ago.

Maybe Dad just has a problem with his wife and daughter’s beliefs period.


19 posted on 08/30/2009 9:02:23 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Morgana

““adequate socialization” you mean she does not act like a freaking brat?”

They could just hire a group of girls to criticize her clothes, hair and makeup, and to shun her for not being cool enough. Then the girls could beat her up and show the video on Youtube while one of the girls’ moms taunts her on myspace until she kills herself. Would that be adequate socialization?


20 posted on 08/30/2009 9:03:13 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: presently no screen name
Or they are ‘concerned’ she is missing out on the sex education classes and sensitivity classes aka ‘indoctrination’.

And the daily chanting of "O-bam-ma...O-bam-ma...O-bam-ma..." at 9am, noon and 3 pm.

21 posted on 08/30/2009 9:03:19 AM PDT by Always Right (Oxymoron: It must be true, I saw it on the News..)
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To: agrace

I mean that Dad supports them totally.


22 posted on 08/30/2009 9:03:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Always Right

Yes!! She probably stands out because of no indoctrination. Wonder if the girl asked her father, “Dad, why are you doing this”? “Is this really about me”?


23 posted on 08/30/2009 9:07:34 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: DJ MacWoW

Making the daughter go to public school won’t change his court ordered monthly support.


24 posted on 08/30/2009 9:12:27 AM PDT by agrace
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To: bk1000
You're exactly right. This is a deplorable intrusion into the basic rights of the mother and child by the court.

As freepers, we should support the fine organizations on the front lines of combating the assault against basic Christian beliefs. The four best groups coming to mind are:

1) Alliance Defense Fund
2) Thomas More Law Center
3) Liberty Council
4) American Center for Law and Justice

They fight the ACLU everyday and win way more than they lose. It's time to circle the wagons against Obamaworld.

25 posted on 08/30/2009 9:14:45 AM PDT by libertymaker
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To: SeekAndFind
This is a messy divorce case, not a religious persecution case. The attorney supporting the mother is trying to spin it as the latter.

Show me an instance where a court removes a child from homeschooling against the wishes of both parents, where the child is doing well academically, on the grounds that the child is being taught religious beliefs which are too rigid. That would be something to be really concerned about.

26 posted on 08/30/2009 9:15:25 AM PDT by dpwiener
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To: SeekAndFind

The disagreement is between the mother and the father about how to raise the girl; and since they’re divorced it ball gets hashed out in court.


27 posted on 08/30/2009 9:16:53 AM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The father is supporting the mother also so that she can homeschool.

The article states the opposite:

"Her father, Martin Kurowski, is opposed to homeschooling, arguing that it prevents "adequate socialization" for Amanda with other children. He requested that she be placed in a government school."
28 posted on 08/30/2009 9:19:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Divorced parents exploiting a child as a weapon against each other.

Happens all the time.

29 posted on 08/30/2009 9:24:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: bk1000

Well I was thinking more along the lines of making her rude, cude and socially unacceptable, but yea....that too.


30 posted on 08/30/2009 9:34:05 AM PDT by Morgana (No one has ever had an idea in a dress suit. - Sir Frederick G. Banting)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s not opposed to homeschooling, he’s just wants his ex wife to get a J-O-B


31 posted on 08/30/2009 9:34:17 AM PDT by chalkfarmer
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To: presently no screen name

If she (the child) gets pregnant by age 14 the mother should sue the father (her ex husband) for the child support and not the man who gets the girl pregnant. I would.


32 posted on 08/30/2009 9:38:26 AM PDT by Morgana (No one has ever had an idea in a dress suit. - Sir Frederick G. Banting)
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To: SeekAndFind
He requested that she be placed in a government school.

For "socialization"

Is he stupid ... or ... just plain malicious ... or ... what?

33 posted on 08/30/2009 9:40:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: The Anti-One
http://www.telladf.org/UserDocs/KurowskiOrder.pdf

The above is a link to the court order. Seems that there is a lot more to this than just homeschooling and religion.

34 posted on 08/30/2009 9:42:01 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: albie

Maybe she is simply mature.

Not sure why the shrink would think that is a problem.


35 posted on 08/30/2009 9:42:16 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There is a big difference between a child learning to socialize and a child being socialized. Children do not learn true social skills in a government school, they learn social skills by interacting freely with other human beings. I would agree though that government schools do socialize their students.
36 posted on 08/30/2009 9:47:11 AM PDT by not_under_duress (21st Century Fascism)
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To: not_under_duress
I was commenting on any of that. I was commenting on the fact that this is simply a case of divorced parents exploiting their child as a weapon to get even with each other.
37 posted on 08/30/2009 9:53:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Morgana

I would definitely go after him. This girl may rebel in her own way because of this fight over control of her. Instead of being thankful she is happy, healthy, succeeding in her studies, in spite of the drama due to divorce - he wants to upset the applecart. This father *ucks, IMO.


38 posted on 08/30/2009 9:58:38 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: BenLurkin

If she is different in any way, it’s because of her faith and not being indoctrinated. That’s a good thing but shrinks/libs gov’t wants everyone the same - standardized robots. If anyone needs evaluation, it’s the father.


39 posted on 08/30/2009 10:03:40 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I am a conservative and a Christian, but I am also a divorced father of five children.

I see this as a struggle between two parents. I have been through that. The mother wants to do one thing and the father wants something else done and there has to be give and take if the issue allows it, but sometimes it doesn’t.

I have a child who has ADHD and his mother wants him to only do holistic thing and it ain’t working none too well. I insist upon him taking meds, but mother is opposed to it. I have told her that I will give her a certain amount of time of things to start working and if they don’t I will take her to court to put him on meds or I will seek primary custody of him.

Maybe the daughter is doing well, but her father is still her father and he should have a lot to say in why his daughter is raised.

Don’t go around stripping him of his rights just because what he might want doesn’t agree with what you believe is best.

If you had a daughter, how much input would you want in her life? If your daughter was happy, healthy, and succeeding in her studies, would you be more than happy to bow out of her life?

Where would you draw the line?


40 posted on 08/30/2009 10:11:38 AM PDT by urroner
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To: SeekAndFind

Get ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) or Thomas More attorneys involved in this.

It’s crazy. There are gated communities of Mozlems who are not sending their children to public schools and are training the boys and perhaps the girls to be suicide bombers, but no judge has ordered those children to attend public schools.

Double standards abound in the mind-set of the mentally diseased liberals.


41 posted on 08/30/2009 10:17:56 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (At Thermopylae, 1 Million Persians lost 20 Thousand yet failed to disarm 300 Spartans. Molon Labe!)
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First of all, I agree w/your wife concerning the ADHD. Your child's brain isn't missing what the 'meds' offer - it merely covers the symptoms. You wife can't control the time needed for something natural to work - yet, you put restrictions on it. And don't think your son isn't aware of this friction. Why aren't you seeking out more info on the natural approach for your son - that alone would be comforting to your son. Is this really about what's best for your son or you getting your own way?

I never said the father should be stripped of 'his rights' - but I'd like to see where 'his rights' are more important than his daughter's rights. What is wrong w/this girl? NOTHING! His issue is control and he is using 'his rights' to feed his flaw. He should feel blessed he has a wife who is taking such good care of his daughter in spite of the trauma of divorce for this girl. How much good he could do by pouring into her life 'encouragement' - telling her how proud he is of her and her accomplishments and what a wonderful job her mom is doing! I don't see a father/daughter bond here - just a control issue. Can't help but think if it irritates him she is doing so well in spite of him not being there - like he's not needed. Which is wrong thinking, she needs him in spite of her 'good grades' - he can pour so much into her that NO ONE else can just because he is the father. That's the 'right' he should exercise. All this, IMHO.
42 posted on 08/30/2009 10:55:09 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
I never said the father should be stripped of 'his rights' - but I'd like to see where 'his rights' are more important than his daughter's rights.

1. It is a liberal position to declare that the kid has more right to decide their schooling than the parent, and

2. This is a father versus mother issue, not a father versus daughter issue.

43 posted on 08/30/2009 11:00:21 AM PDT by ColdWater
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Thanks for the link. I found pages 7 and 8 very helpful in understanding the court's decision process. The a-religious court was in a tough spot when faced with two parents who disagreed on religious beliefs and could/would not come to a mutual agreement on how to handle Amanda's schooling. While I share Amanda and her mother's faith, I can understand the difficult position the court was in. These paragraphs from the report reflect their thought process. This shows the downside to a family and a culture that does not share the same value system. Somebody always loses.

The Court is extremely reluctant to impose on parents a decision about a child's education, which commonly emerges after sincere and thorough discussion between parents who are both committed to the child's growth and development. In the absence of effective communication between the parents whose case reflects a history of opposing opinions on a variety of issues, the Court is guided by the premise that education is by its nature an exploration and examination of new things, and by the premise that a child requires academic, social, cultural, and physical interaction with a variety of experiences, People, concepts, and surroundings in order to grow to an adult who can make intelligent decisions about how to achieve a productive and satisfying life.

The parties do not debate the relative academic merits of home schooling and public school: it is clear that the home schooling Ms. Voydatch has provided has more than kept up with the academic requirements of the Meredith public school system. Instead, the debate centers on whether enrollment in public school will provide Amanda with an increased opportunity for group learning, group interaction, social problem solving, and exposure to a variety of points of view. Considering the testimony of both parties and the Guardian ad Litem, and by the standard of a preponderance of the evidence, the Court concludes that it would be in Amanda's best interests to attend public school.

In reaching this conclusion, the Court is mindful of its obligation not to consider the specific tenets of any religious system unless there is evidence that those tenets have been applied in such a way as to cause actual harm to the child. The evidence in this case does not rise to that level, and therefore the Court has not considered the merits of Amanda's religious beliefs, but considered only the impact of those beliefs on her interaction with others, both past and future. The Court declines to impose any restrictions on either party's ability to provide Amanda with religious training or to share with Amanda their own religious beliefs.

At this point the mother's best hope is to trust the foundation of faith she laid in the early years and engage her daughter in discussion about what is taught in school and subject it to scrutiny by the scriptures. This is actually a helpful process because Christians are called to be salt and light to an unbelieving world. This requires living in the world (and engaging the unbelievers with whom we live) without becoming of the world and adopting that world view. This is a very difficult path, only possible by guidance by the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit.

44 posted on 08/30/2009 11:01:25 AM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: ColdWater

1. I’m saying - she is ‘doing well’ (her right) yet that doesn’t seem to be taken into consideration. It’s more about what the father ‘thinks’ than about facts.

2. Of course it’s a father vs. mother battle - but the father is using his daughter as his pawn to go against the mother. And he’s using his ‘rights’ to pull it off instead of using his ‘parental authority’ for the right reasons - to love her just as she is and show her how special she is in his sight - a Jesus way of doing things. He has so much to offer her - trouble is, when it’s too late he will realize that - right now, they are both missing out on what ‘could be’. But something tells me, doing the Jesus thing for this father is not to be, his ego comes first.


45 posted on 08/30/2009 11:48:35 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

You’re an idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to my child. Go blow it out your saddlebags.


46 posted on 08/30/2009 12:44:49 PM PDT by urroner
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To: Abby4116
The above is a link to the court order. Seems that there is a lot more to this than just homeschooling and religion.

Thanks for the info but to be perfectly honest with you I do not care. In my opinion and based upon what I know about the US Constitution no where is it written that the courts have the right to tell parents what they can and cannot do with their children. Only because of spineless representatives and those that have voted for them do we have oligarchies like those we see sprouting up in our judicial branch being allowed to force their wills on the citizens of this country.
Where we are headed as a nation is not a pretty place.

MO

47 posted on 08/30/2009 1:00:34 PM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: urroner

You are right, I don’t. I’m just talking about what I know about others that I heard and read about. And that doesn’t make me an idiot but to your way of thinking - everyone is but you.


48 posted on 08/30/2009 1:13:41 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SeekAndFind

This has been going on for awhile. The early articles were also posted on FR.


49 posted on 08/30/2009 2:31:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: presently no screen name
Of course it’s a father vs. mother battle - but the father is using his daughter as his pawn to go against the mother. And he’s using his ‘rights’ to pull it off instead of using his ‘parental authority’ for the right reasons - to love her just as she is and show her how special she is in his sight - a Jesus way of doing things. He has so much to offer her - trouble is, when it’s too late he will realize that - right now, they are both missing out on what ‘could be’. But something tells me, doing the Jesus thing for this father is not to be, his ego comes first.

Oh. Now if the mother was teaching the kid Islam, you would have the same position?

50 posted on 08/30/2009 2:53:12 PM PDT by ColdWater
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