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Perry calls border wall ‘nonsense’ and other TX politics
American Statesman ^ | 8-28-09 | Jason Embry .. others

Posted on 08/29/2009 9:25:55 AM PDT by deport

Updated: Perry calls border wall ‘nonsense’

By Jason Embry | Friday, August 28, 2009, 05:28 PM

In a speech today to at the Montgomery County Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Business Forum, Gov. Rick Perry said he prefers a “technological barrier” along the Texas-Mexico border instead of a physical border wall. Here’s a 43 second clip

....Update: Perry spokesman Mark Miner said Perry is “for a fence in strategic areas, but he believes you need to use technology and other innovative resources to protect the border. He doesn’t believe you need to build a fence from one end of Texas to the other.”..... end snip


Other Texas Politics

Kinky Friedman to announce gubernatorial run

By Corrie MacLaggan | Friday, August 28, 2009, 04:58 PM

Kinky Friedman, the humorist and 2006 independent gubernatorial candidate, will formally announce on Tuesday he is running for governor as a Democrat, according to campaign manager Rania Batrice.

Friedman’s announcement tour — which will start Tuesday and go through Thursday — will start in Austin and continue in Houston, Dallas, El Paso and the Rio Grande Valley, Batrice said. End Snip....


Rudy Giuliani to Raise Money For Gov. Rick Perry

Updated 4:15 PM CDT, Thu, Aug 27, 2009

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani embarks on a two-day fundraising swing next month for Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Perry, in the re-election fight of his political life with a Republican primary challenge from U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, will host Giuliani at fundraisers in Houston, San Antonio, Austin and Dallas, said Perry spokesman Mark Miner. End Snip



TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: giuliani; immigration; kbh; kinky; perry; rickperry; txgov2010
The upcoming political season is going to be interesting in Texas. Enjoy.
1 posted on 08/29/2009 9:25:56 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport
He may be correct, I have always thought snipers in gun towers would be much more effective.
2 posted on 08/29/2009 9:27:30 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: deport

I rather agree with the guy - the fence is expensive, and not too difficult to circumvent. Just recently, they caught Mexicans cutting the steel up and selling it for scrap. Higher tech and more boots on the ground would be the way to go, I rather think.


3 posted on 08/29/2009 9:28:30 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: deport

4 posted on 08/29/2009 9:30:12 AM PDT by wastedyears (Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn work, and my 360 red rings after 2 and a half years.)
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To: deport

talking about “technological” border security is a political tap dance to try to appease people who want a wall without offending hispanics. what a crock.


5 posted on 08/29/2009 9:30:48 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kingattax

The technology fence requires even more boots on the ground. That part they won’t provide and the fence will be just like most immigration enforcement..a farce.
An independent TX would have the fence and it would be effective as part of a national defense.


6 posted on 08/29/2009 9:35:35 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: domenad

“Higher tech and more boots on the ground would be the way to go, I rather think.”

Drones. Missles. Make ‘em think real hard about coming illegally.


7 posted on 08/29/2009 9:36:30 AM PDT by jessduntno (Privatization + Inter-State Sales + Individual Policies + Tort Reform = Healthcare Reform)
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To: domenad
"I rather agree with the guy - the fence is expensive, and not too difficult to circumvent. Just recently, they caught Mexicans cutting the steel up and selling it for scrap. Higher tech and more boots on the ground would be the way to go, I rather think."

If we're going to use a "physical" fence, I prefer one with the fence posts mounted on very large, structurally sound insulators. An electrical carrier would be woven through the fence wire and would carry a high voltage.

A system such as I've described carries at least one negative. There would be some endangerment to wildlife, but I don't think that would be particularly objectionable to most sane citizens.

8 posted on 08/29/2009 9:37:21 AM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental and social illness)
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To: deport

>> Gov. Rick Perry said he prefers a “technological barrier” along the Texas-Mexico border

What Perry has in mind is no doubt some sort of RFID toll tag system for illegals.


9 posted on 08/29/2009 9:38:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: domenad

Maybe time to play a little “follow the money”. Building a fence may require taking of property via eminent domain if the parties can’t come to an agreement to fair market. May be interesting to know how much property is left to be purchased and just how those negotiations are going. And if those land owners contributed to Perry’s campaign.


10 posted on 08/29/2009 9:39:34 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Barak Obama: Proud Graduate of the Robert Mugabe School of Government and Economics)
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To: Nervous Tick

What Perry has in mind is no doubt some sort of RFID toll tag system for illegals.


LOL....... Hey amigos, stop by the water tank and get your pellet implant before moving on.


11 posted on 08/29/2009 9:40:36 AM PDT by deport
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To: domenad

I have long supported a fence providing it’s electric!


12 posted on 08/29/2009 9:42:05 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: deport

Perry seems to be a great panderer!


13 posted on 08/29/2009 9:47:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: deport
Kay Bailey was against the fence as well. Sought some type of alternative back when GW was pres.

A fence by itself is just a speed bump for the illegals. I think (hope) that was what Perry meant.

Whether there is a physical fence or technological fence, there must be boots on the ground and eyes in the sky overwatching and enforcing it.

Perry is not perfect but a far closer to what we need in Texas than Kay Bailey.

14 posted on 08/29/2009 9:56:04 AM PDT by Max_850
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To: Max_850

Perry is not perfect but a far closer to what we need in Texas than Kay Bailey.


Well we’ve had him at the helm for almost 12 years now and a couple more as LtGov. Time for him to find another teat to suck at.


15 posted on 08/29/2009 10:00:52 AM PDT by deport
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To: org.whodat

I’ve always thought that anti-personnel mines were always an effective tool?


16 posted on 08/29/2009 10:01:33 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: wastedyears

Best tagline I’ve seen.


17 posted on 08/29/2009 10:01:47 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: deport
“technological barrier”

Code phrase for "We will talk a good talk, but that's about it"
18 posted on 08/29/2009 10:02:49 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: deport

12 years now

S/b 10 years....

sheesh


19 posted on 08/29/2009 10:03:00 AM PDT by deport
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To: SoConPubbie

Code phrase for “We will talk a good talk, but that’s about it”


Perry does know the crowd he’s speaking to. That said parts of the border once you get away from the Gulf becomes a challenge to build a physical barrier such as a fence due to the canyons, etc.


20 posted on 08/29/2009 10:06:02 AM PDT by deport
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To: domenad

Absolutely Perry’s right. It’s an obscenely expensive, utterly ineffective boondoggle - a massively wasteful monument to political pandering.(And pandering is something our gov knows something a little bit about.)


21 posted on 08/29/2009 10:09:37 AM PDT by leilani
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To: org.whodat

A minefield would be cheaper still.


22 posted on 08/29/2009 10:19:52 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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23 posted on 08/29/2009 10:25:12 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: deport
Yes, he has been at the helm for over 12 years. During this recession/depression Texas is doing pretty well. We still have plenty of cash in the Rainy Day fund. How does that speak badly on him?

Kay Bailey called herself more of a Congressman than a Senator due to her work at bringing Federal money into Texas.

We need to get rid of Politicians that seek reelection by being Appropriators, that is what has led us down the path we are at now.

24 posted on 08/29/2009 10:35:17 AM PDT by Max_850
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee; CedarDave; elkfersupper; Eaker

I am over here in Artesia and I see many more ex military being trained as BP than are need to replace BP agents leaving.


25 posted on 08/29/2009 10:42:52 AM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: deport

“Virtual fences” are only designed to gull virtual idiots.

Note that there is not only a “virtual fence” around the White House, Camp David, etc.


26 posted on 08/29/2009 10:45:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Grams A
"I have long supported a fence providing it’s electric!"

"F" the fence I want a wall with guard towers and boiling oil vats!

27 posted on 08/29/2009 10:48:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: domenad

Not fun when you’re bored all the time.


28 posted on 08/29/2009 11:18:48 AM PDT by wastedyears (Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn work, and my 360 red rings after 2 and a half years.)
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To: org.whodat

Radar and infrared controlled mini guns, after all he did say technological didn’t he?


29 posted on 08/29/2009 1:00:38 PM PDT by calex59
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To: domenad
Higher tech and more boots on the ground would be the way to go, I rather think.

High tech & boots can be turned off or told to stay in the barracks. They would be a great addition to a lot of low tech, reinforced concrete. The concrete barrier won't stop them, but it would slow things down, and maybe channel the effort making the boots & hi-tech payoff better.

30 posted on 08/29/2009 1:19:46 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Problem is that we currently have no one running the show in Washington who has a lick of military experience and this, IMO, is a military issue. When you have a management team where the women all look like they have more testosterone then the men you have a real problem.


31 posted on 08/29/2009 1:27:29 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: deport
Perry does know the crowd he’s speaking to. That said parts of the border once you get away from the Gulf becomes a challenge to build a physical barrier such as a fence due to the canyons, etc.

Don't get me wrong, if I lived in Texas, I'd be voting for Perry because like it or not, he is the best chance to keep a Republican in that seat that will not stink up the place.

That having been said, concerning your comment on canyons and such, I really don't care. TO me those are just excuses put up (not you mind you but the politicians) to pretend they are really anti-illegal aliens.

Frankly, there is no excuse for putting a sea-to-sea fence along our southern border, none. If a canyon is in your way, find another route.
32 posted on 08/29/2009 4:27:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
Frankly, there is no excuse for putting a sea-to-sea fence along our southern border, none. If a canyon is in your way, find another route.

I agree. 50 years ago they put the interstate highways through in similar areas. Just do it. Dynamite works wonders.

33 posted on 08/30/2009 6:51:05 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: deport

I saw the arson charges were dropped against Fran Medina, the wife of the republican TX Supreme Court justice. Now that’s a case that needs looking at from outside of Texas.
That guy has more baggage than Southwest Airlines.


34 posted on 08/30/2009 7:02:59 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: deport

Perry is correct. What we need on the border are soldiers with bazooka’s and orders to shoot. These people will tunnel under fences and the fences will have to be monitored using personnel anyway.

You need to give these people motivation to stay on the other side...a soldier with a bazooka and a some grenades is good motivation.


35 posted on 08/30/2009 8:12:23 AM PDT by RowdyFFC (Nancy Pelosi...please deny her any health care....)
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To: Crawdad

Yep, two grand juries indict the woman and then the DA comes along and dismisses the case. The judge also has some ethics charges that are ongoing. He has admitted to using some $57,000 or so campaign funds to reimburse himself for travel to and from work. That is illegal and now he says he’ll repay. He should be disbarred, removed from the Judgeship at a minimum.


36 posted on 08/30/2009 8:26:32 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

My wife and I were very close to David and Francis once. Then, David only wanted to be close to my wife. Very close.
I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him.


37 posted on 08/30/2009 9:13:50 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: Oldexpat

These high tech fences will do nothing more then produce a large number of false alarms.

We need a multi-layered fence with sensors in the middle to detect these border crossers and tunnelers.

A single layered fence won’t even slow these people down.


38 posted on 08/30/2009 9:21:27 AM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the Dogs.)
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To: deport

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