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IL 2010: John McCain to endorse, fund-raise for Mark Kirk Illinois Senate bid [RINO Party]
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 2009-08-28

Posted on 08/28/2009 3:10:26 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: BillyBoy

I used Campbell simply as an example, I know he’s running for Gov, but you get my point. As to Jeffords Chafee and Specter I’ll say the following:

1) Jeffords: true moderate/liberal who was one of the last “Yankee Repubs” along with John Chafee to serve in the Senate. I disagreed with most of his positions (he was a very vocal pro choice advocate and I am pro life, he voted against Clarence Thomas’ confirmation and he supported Hillarycare), but I do appreciate his votes for Bush’s tax cuts.

2) Lincoln Chafee: don’t care for him, I never would have voted for him, he should have followed his beliefs and quit the Repub Party and joined the dems.

3) Specter: the dem turned Repub turned dem. I could write a book on why I would never and will never support him. But suffice it to say that we Repubs should have known long ago that if he left the dem party purely for electoral reasons then there was always the possibility he would switch back if necessary to further his personal ambitions.

On Kirk: I didn’t know he supported partial birth abortions. I cannot support that. I also didn’t know about his relationship with the press, it’s scary when the MSM fawns over a Repub.

On Wallace: I wish him well, I’ll follow him in the news.


62 posted on 08/29/2009 10:36:31 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: SaraJohnson

Most states have sore loser laws that prevent failed primary opponents from then running as an independent.


63 posted on 08/29/2009 3:28:28 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: rabscuttle385; BillyBoy; PhilCollins; fieldmarshaldj

Kirk doesn’t meet the minimum threshold for a Republican in good standing. His friend Johnny McLame is twice as conservative as him.

No moderate-to-conservative leaning dems are gonna be running against Kirk.

But several democrats in the legislature are to the right of him, mostly downstaters as Billyboy pointed out (in the coming years I hope those downstate seats elect Republicans.), (and there are a few RINO legislators to the left of these democrats) also Rep. Jack Franks of McHenry county next door to Kirk.

The Lake County (part of this is in Kirk’s district) dem sheriff who switched parties to the GOP last December was well to Kirk’s right as a democrat.


64 posted on 08/29/2009 3:45:37 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: moose2004

After Jeffords switched over he went from voting moderate-liberal to voting total moonbat.


65 posted on 08/29/2009 3:47:02 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: tencole; Extremely Extreme Extremist; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; rabscuttle385; ...
Interesting story... I just got done yapping about Kirk's RINOism on FR this morning when I was supposed to working on a flash animation project, and to make a long story short I decided to stop by the annual Southwest Suburban Cook Co. GOP picnic on the way home (admission was free, there's no way I've giving the county party any more of my money when they spend it on RINOs)

http://www.cookrepublicanparty.com/eventDetail.aspx?eventID=2627

It was pretty similar to the Lauzen BBQ I gave an after action report about a few weeks ago, though this time all the GOP candidates for Governor were there giving speeches. Eric Wallace was also there to work the crowd.

The interesting thing is the one person who was AWOL again — Congressman Kirk (so much for “visiting all of Illinois”... based on his schedule from the last month, the suburbs south of the city must be radioactive). Of course Kirk's “people” were there for him, circulating petitions to get Marky Mark on the ballot. One perky blond lady asked if I'd sign to help “an Illinois Republican Congressman who wants to serve us in the Senate” and after seeing it was a Kirk petition I politely said “Sorry, no thanks. I'm backing another candidate”. No problemo. So she goes to the next table. She gives the same request to an elderly couple, the wife asks if Congressman Kirk is pro-life. The Kirk petitioner says “As far I know, yes. He's always been pro-life”. As this point I immediately pip up “Excuse me. Congressman Kirk is not pro-life. In fact, he got a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood last year.”. Kirk lady says “Oh my. Are you sure about that? I've meet Congressman Kirk and I've heard the only complaints from party voters have been with the cap and trade thing” I stated I was absolutely certain that Kirk was “extremely liberal” on abortion, and furthermore, votes “liberal at least 60% of the time”. I told the couple to check out project vote smart online and they can see for themselves how various issue groups rated Kirk's voting record. Stunned silence. Several people who had signed Kirk's petition asked to have it back so they could cross out their names. Kirk lady looked really embarrassed and flustered by my comments. “Look, I'm a pro-life mom myself... four kids... I'm sure I don't agree with Congressman Kirk on everything... I just know TIME magazine rated Congressman Kirk one of America's best senators and he was chosen by Congressional Quarterly as one of the hardest working men in Washington —” “He is, works hard for liberals” I added. saying “I'm not trying to attack you I'm just pointing out the facts that I've looked up his record and your candidate agrees with Democrats more often than he does with Republicans, and Republican voters should know the facts before they sign for him”. She stammers something about how you “don't have to vote for him” it's just a petition to get on the ballot so other people have that chance. I say “I understand that, and if people don't mind having a person who votes like a Democrat appearing on a Republican ballot, then they can go ahead and sign”. I think this poor chick was at a lost for words now. I just gently explained I'd rather have Congressman Kirk here to defend his record than send surrogates like her to try and justify why he's running as Republican. I added my usual speech on FR about how he's not a “social moderate” and if he wants to run on being a “thoughtful, consensus builder” who is willing to “compromise” then he should support legislation the general public overwhelmingly agrees on like a ban on partial birth abortion. She didn't have an answer to that.

I figure this lady probably knew Kirk was pro-choice all along but said he was pro-life when asked, knowing that's the only way grassroots conservatives would sign the thing. But I do think she genuinely didn't know his track record in depth and was embarrassed when I laid it out in detail and she couldn't refute it.

I wonder how many other times Kirk's campaign workers have been told to deliberately distort his record to get conservative support. Shame the little cowardly Kirk wants to represent “all” of Illinois but has only been seen on the north shore and party functions in Springfield so far. He's been on constant defense even when he holds town hall meetings in his limousine liberal district, I think out here where 80% of the voters are social conservatives he'd get eaten alive and he knows it.

66 posted on 08/29/2009 4:16:18 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Any time you go to one of these events, you should arm yourself with printouts of facts and figures on liberal Mark Kirk’s radical pro-Democrat agenda and that the only thing “Republican” about Mark Kirk is the “R” letter after his name. Remind folks that liberal Mark Kirk is the choice of the corrupt Combine and out-of-touch Washington elites.


67 posted on 08/30/2009 3:35:30 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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