Joseph P. Kennedy senior...what is there in the Bible about the sins of the father being visited upon even to the third generation? click here
Posted on 08/28/2009 10:55:35 AM PDT by UnbornChild
From Lifesite:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/aug/09082801.html
To respectfully contact Cardinal O'Malley with concerns:
phone: 617 782-2544
email: sdiago@rcab.org
You may also wish to consult:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09042903.html
Please do it. Write a couple of paragraphs. If you're just WAY too busy, just write a line. Just don't remain silent.
Phone calls are good, too. They get people's attention.
Please pass this request on to all your sympathetic contacts-- you don't have to be Catholic to express concern.
For the archbishop to actually participate in such a funeral would be a monstrous mockery, and a black eye for the Church in America.
Why should we expect him to respond to popular opinion? He never has in the past and most (if not all) of his decisions are based on political expediency and not religious doctrine.
When there is public scandal given to Catholic faithful, a PUBLIC renunciation is required before the individual can be received back to the sacraments. If a private repentence was made, then yes, a private mass should follow - not a massive advertisement that implies a whitewashing of the grievous wrongs done.
BTW, did you know John Kerry served in Viet Nam?
This guy is liable to sponaneously combust if they drag his body into a church. He was a disgusting drunkard. I have lived in MA most of my life and I can tell you that any beach area in New England (the Cape, the Vineyard and even Maine) - when the Kennedys hit the beach area there was guaranteed drunkeness and stupidity that followed. Up here no one called him on it. I generally ignored them as any “altercation” that included a Kennedy meant the cops were going to beat you to within an inch of your life and then buy the drunken Kennedy another drink.
Just watching the local cable outlet (NECN) and some of the people on there are saying things like “...I feel he, Bobby and John were part of OUR family..” which just has me thinking that most of my neighbors must be drunken, lecherous slobs. Truly amazing that there are atill this many Kennedy sycophants strolling around.
Teddy is going to get his funeral! Afterall, it has been bought and paid for by the Kennedys I’m sure.
BTW, did you know John Kerry served in Viet Nam?
I heard that. And he received purple hearts (3 I believe) - one for getting shot in his @ss! Brave communist that he is.
For all the sins of TMK, we have no clue whether he had a deathbed conversion or not.
Our Lord welcomes the worst sinner who repents.
I can’t tell you if he repented or not, but I would rather err on the side of forgiveness.
Lord knows, I’m a sinner too.
Done:
It reads:
As a Roman Catholic who entered the Church in 1992, pledging my allegiance to the Pope and the Magisterium, I am appalled at the Catholic Church’s laise faire attitude toward Catholic politicians who speak and act and vote in direct conflict with the Church and then, when they die, are treated as if they are royalty. Of course, I am speaking of Ted Kennedy and the plans to hold a public funeral for him. I suggest that the Catholic Church weakens her Christian witness to the world by having a public ceremony exalting Senator Kennedy, even if that is not the intent of the funeral service.
Mr. Kennedy was not a saint by any means. He got away with the murder, intentional or otherwise, of Mary Jo Kopechne. He was a known womanizer. He drank too excess and lived to excess. He lied about Judge Bork and caused the Judge to be denied a seat on the Supreme Court. He promoted Abortion on Demand. No matter what he did to help the poor while he was in the Senate, he never publicly admitted to any of the harm he had done nor did he publicly ask for forgiveness.
Please hold a private funeral for Ted Kennedy with no live television coverage. Allow the service to be between Ted Kennedy and God and not between the Catholic Church and the viewing audience. Funerals are somber times not circuses. Please, turn off the live televison cameras and offer Ted Kennedy a private Mass between his soul and the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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And hopefully, it will be effective and the good Cardinal will close the Mass and not allow live TV coverage. I’m praying for that, anyway.
You know, if I were a Catholic, this outrage of having a “high mass” for not only a baby killer but a cold blooded murderer would drive me right out of that religion. What hypocrisy.
(Of course, the child molestation by the priests and the complete attempts at cover-ups, would have already sent me packing years ago.)
This is a slap in the face to every Catholic who defends the protection of unborn children.
But hey, PT Barnum said it all years ago.
Ted Kennedy was a Catholic democrat leader and Catholics vote democrat, how do we know that this Cardinal does not support the democrats except on (hopefully) abortion?
Massachusetts is a Catholic state and it’s politics and the 47 year reign of Ted Kennedy represents that.
We can’t pretend that Ted Kennedy was a renegade of some sort that was in office in spite of Catholicism, instead of because of it. Would Kennedy have won or held that seat for a half century if he were not Catholic?
I guess the Catholic Church is OK with Kennedy’s stand on abortion.
If they make him a saint, I’m switchin to Baptist....
just sayin
Are they going to cover Jesus on the Cross so Obama won’t be offended like they did at Georgetown. Will Obama praise Kennedy for defending a woman’s “right to choose” from the Sanctuary?
There is silence from Rome. For those with ears to hear this says alot.
I just think that conservative American Catholics need to do an old fashioned, American style Catholic revival with emphasis on ordering the Vatican to appoint more pro-American church leadership inside our hemisphere and teaching Hispanic Catholics to pay more attention to the bible itself.
Supposedly the church allows a wide range of local cultural influence such as in Africa, well they need to let some old fashioned Americanism influence Catholicism in America.
Don’t forget we have 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court.
I think that is probably because of the problem we are talking about, being Catholic isn’t really a problem to the left although they will make some noises about abortion.
We have six Catholics, two Jews, an Episcopalian, and one that is just described as “protestant”.
Our second largest religion in America behind Catholic is Southern Baptist, yet we don’t have them on the court. Southern Baptist is not a liberal democrat religion by any stretch.
I’m a Catholic and I dont like Teddy. But every baptized Catholic, no matter their sins, is entitled to a Mass of Christian Burial. At baptism Teddy received a small “pall” and at his funeral another “pall” will be placed on the casket It’s all part of a 2000 year old ritual.This pall is a reminder of the white baptismal garment, a sign of the Christian dignity of the person. Just as the new Christian was clothed in the white garment when he or she became a member of the Church, the coffin is covered with a white cloth as the person enters into a new life in the resurrection of Jesus. however, baptism remains the fundamental identity. Other emblems should not displace Christian symbols reminding the community of the person’s baptism.
Did the election of a Kenyan Communist as President cause you to renounce your citizenship and leave the country and if not, why?
“I say to you, that even so there shall be joy in heaven upon one sinner that doth penance, more than upon ninety-nine just who need not penance.” Luke 15:7
Well the Cardinal changed his mind.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles_of_faith/2009/08/omalley_to_pres.html
“You know, if I were a Catholic, this outrage of having a “high mass” for not only a baby killer but a cold blooded murderer would drive me right out of that religion.”
As a Catholic, and one who has been appalled for a long time over what Kennedy has stood for, I have to say that any Catholic who would be driven out of the Church over a funeral Mass for Kennedy, never really understood his/her faith. If one truly believes what the Church teaches (quite often different from what some members of the Church, including clergy, present as Church teaching) they would not walk away from Christ in the Eucharist.
....Well some Catholics have left the Church for even less.
All I can hope was that Sen.Ted made peace with God before he had passed.
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