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Disturbing Twist To Tahoe Kidnapping Drama
Bay CIty News ^ | 8/27/09 | Staff

Posted on 08/27/2009 7:25:02 PM PDT by nmh

Jaycee Lee Dugard, who was 11 in 1991 when she was snatched ...

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The case broke after Garrido was spotted Tuesday with two children as he tried to enter the University of California, Berkeley, campus to hand out religious literature. The officers said he was acting suspiciously toward the children. They questioned him and did a background check, determining he was a parolee, and informed his parole officer.

Garrido was ordered to appear for a parole meeting and arrived Wednesday with Dugard, his wife and two children. During questioning, corrections officials said he admitted kidnapping Dugard. It was not known if he had a lawyer.

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People who knew Garrido said he became increasingly fanatic about his religious beliefs in recent years, sometimes breaking out into song and claiming that God spoke to him through a box.

"In the last couple years he started getting into this strange religious stuff. We kind of felt sorry for him," said Tim Allen, president of East County Glass and Window Inc. in Pittsburgh, who bought business cards and letterhead from Garrido's printing business for the last decade. Three times in recent years, Garrido arrived at Allen's showroom with two "cute little blond girls" in tow, he said.

In April 2008, Garrido registered a corporation called Gods Desire at his home address, according the California Secretary of State. During recent visits to the showroom, Garrido would talk about quitting the printing business to preach full time and gave the impression he was setting up a church, Allen said.

"He rambled. It made no sense," he said.

Garrido would talk about holding events at UC Berkeley and mentioned the names of important people as if he knew them. Allen said he had no inkling of Garrido's criminal record.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: dugard; girl; god; rape; slave
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Her chldren are girls - now 11 and 15.

The "compound" had electricity from an extension cord, an outhouse and a shower - as in crude camping.

None of the children had even been to school or seen a doctor. They were completely isolated.

1 posted on 08/27/2009 7:25:03 PM PDT by nmh
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To: nmh

disgusting..he impregnated her at the age of 13! LIFE IN PRISON PIG!


2 posted on 08/27/2009 7:29:07 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: nmh

Really sad; I hope those girls can recover.


3 posted on 08/27/2009 7:29:09 PM PDT by Hammer Tym (Skateboarding is a crime)
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To: jhw61

Yeah; time to open up a can of Jack Bauer on that SOB


4 posted on 08/27/2009 7:29:38 PM PDT by Hammer Tym (Skateboarding is a crime)
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To: nmh
"None of the children had even been to school or seen a doctor. They were completely isolated. "

This story is someplace well beyond disturbing and horrifying. Modern psychology would tell us, at the ages of 11 and 15, a lot of damage has been done that very well may be permanent, to say nothing of the mother and the damage that she has had to endure.

I'm sure that they'll get tremendous treatment, much of it if not all of it pro bono, but they're in for an uphill climb. Why the Death Penalty isn't in-play here, is another crime in and of itself.

5 posted on 08/27/2009 7:31:51 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: jhw61

Death penalty. Kidnapping, rape, imprisonment and his wife too. Fry them. They are pure evil. Sickening.


6 posted on 08/27/2009 7:32:14 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs & Glenn Beck- American Heroes! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: jhw61
LIFE IN PRISON PIG!

That is in all likelihood exactly what will happen. I'd prefer the death penalty, myself.

7 posted on 08/27/2009 7:33:46 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: jhw61

He acts like he’s a muslim or something


8 posted on 08/27/2009 7:34:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Liberalism: The gift that keeps on taking ... .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Maybe a few lifers will take care of him


9 posted on 08/27/2009 7:36:07 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: nmh

Incredible evil.


10 posted on 08/27/2009 7:36:14 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nmh

The compound was in a second backyard concealed from the first by plants, a tarp, and some old appliances. The entrance was concealed behind the tarp. It wasn’t visible from the house, nor from any of the neighboring yards. This is going to spawn a hundred horror flicks, much like Ed Gein’s crimewave did 50 years ago.


11 posted on 08/27/2009 7:36:46 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: nmh

12 posted on 08/27/2009 7:36:58 PM PDT by poindexter
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To: nmh
Any and all sorts of medieval torture, pain and suffering inflicted on Garrido and his wife would not bother me at all. The best they should be able to hope for for the rest of their hopefully short life on this planet should be misery, bad food and no toilet paper.
13 posted on 08/27/2009 7:37:21 PM PDT by GBA
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To: nmh
Her chldren are girls - now 11 and 15.

The "compound" had electricity from an extension cord, an outhouse and a shower - as in crude camping.

None of the children had even been to school or seen a doctor. They were completely isolated.


Almost as depraved as the Austrian low-life who held his daughter in captivity for years in his basement and fathered children on her. The only thing missing is the incest. Absolutely vile - how could anyone destroy the life of an innocent child like this?
14 posted on 08/27/2009 7:39:03 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I’m not sure I want to see what DU, Kos or HuffingstuffPost have to say about this.


15 posted on 08/27/2009 7:39:45 PM PDT by wastedyears (Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn work, and my 360 red rings after 2 and a half years.)
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To: Hammer Tym

In TN about 20 years ago, “mommy’s boy-fiend” beat her 3 year old child mortally. While the baby was dying in the emergency room, grandpa (a well known Nashville pharmacist) went out to the car, got a gun, walked back into the hospital and killed “mommy’s boy-fiend”. The jury refused to convict him on anything other than a misdemeanor.


16 posted on 08/27/2009 7:40:18 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Apparently he did it with great enjoyment. All the more reason for him to die a drawn out and very painful death. Crucifixion comes to mind.


17 posted on 08/27/2009 7:42:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: nmh
I know of a similar religious type that essentially destroyed his family connection's (with wife, children, parents, other relatives, etc.) and ended up by blowing his brains out.

He had a brilliant mind.

18 posted on 08/27/2009 7:43:45 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I can’t disagree with you there.


19 posted on 08/27/2009 7:48:39 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: wastedyears

probably just a bunch of “Hey what happened to ‘Doctor God?’ He used to come here all the time......


20 posted on 08/27/2009 7:49:26 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (STATE CONTROLLED ECONOMIES SUCK ! LONG LIVE AMERICA.)
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To: poindexter
I'm with you.

In California, they're liable to let him free to save money.

21 posted on 08/27/2009 7:50:22 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’s why I like juries!

parsy, who trusts his fellow Americans to do the right thing most of the time


22 posted on 08/27/2009 7:50:23 PM PDT by parsifal (Dare I mention the term common sense? Book of Vinnie - Chapter 58 Verse 1 (The Boomer Bible))
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To: poindexter

Crucifixion.


23 posted on 08/27/2009 7:56:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: nmh

What the H*!! is the point of requiring sex offenders to register and re-register every year if nobody ever checks up on what they’re doing? 18 years this guy had a kidnapped girl, plus her children for more than a decade of this time, housed in a makeshift “compound” behind his house, and nobody from law enforcement ever came over to have a look around? Sounds like there may be plenty of sex offenders duly going through their yearly “registration” requirements, setting off for a brief visit to the registration office while they’ve got a dozen bloodied victims dangling from chains in their bedroom back home.


24 posted on 08/27/2009 7:58:46 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Vote for a short Freepathon! Donate now if you possibly can!)
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To: OldDeckHand

I hate to think what happened to the other children. Some reports say she bore “several” children while this guy was imprisoning her, and for a 29 year old who bore her first child at 14, that seems likely.


25 posted on 08/27/2009 8:00:47 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Vote for a short Freepathon! Donate now if you possibly can!)
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To: wastedyears

I believe this is the very rare story about which posters to Free Republic and DailyKos et al will agree.


26 posted on 08/27/2009 8:00:50 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: OldNavyVet
Is he pretending to be part of some strange Mormon sect? Using that to justify his preying on young girls? Remember the Utah girl who was abducted? They camped and roamed around.
27 posted on 08/27/2009 8:03:07 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
The only thing missing is the incest.

Actually I rather doubt that's missing. Probably we just haven't heard the details yet. The 11 and 15 year old girls were apparently his children, and if he kidnapped an 11 year old to rape and impregnate her repeatedly, I don't imagine his interactions with the resulting daughters were pure and chaste.

28 posted on 08/27/2009 8:05:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Vote for a short Freepathon! Donate now if you possibly can!)
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To: Frantzie
Death penalty. Kidnapping, rape, imprisonment and his wife too. Fry them. They are pure evil.

Yes, and maybe it's time to discuss killing all pedophiles. I don't see any reason to support them in prison - or half way houses. It might be time to start the discussion.

29 posted on 08/27/2009 8:15:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Actually a parole officer did come out but the entrance to where the girls enclosures were were camouflaged.


30 posted on 08/27/2009 8:17:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"I hate to think what happened to the other children."

I was thinking of that myself. It's probably a foregone conclusion that they were assaulted as well.

I just saw the overhead pictures of the neighborhood in which they lived for the last 18 or so years. With the houses so incredibly close together, it's shocking that no one noticed a woman and two small children living in the backyard shed - or heard them for that matter.

31 posted on 08/27/2009 8:18:16 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: nmh

What makes his crimes even more nauseating is that he evokes God’s name to justify his actions. And what’s with the idiot wife letting it happen?


32 posted on 08/27/2009 8:19:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: utahagen
"I believe this is the very rare story about which posters to Free Republic and DailyKos et al will agree."

Lord, I hope so. But, I doubt it. I'm guessing that there's more than a few on this board (including me) that believe this animal should be eligible for the death penalty. Most leftist don't "believe" in capital punishment. I'm guessing that's the prevailing opinion on Kos and the gang.

33 posted on 08/27/2009 8:20:50 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. ... Matthew 18:6

Guess pedophile preacher ignored that Jesus spoken quote.

34 posted on 08/27/2009 8:25:51 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: nmh

It is spelled Pittsburg, no H on the end.

Hellhole of hellholes.


35 posted on 08/27/2009 8:26:00 PM PDT by Global2010 (Chic Conservative Catholic Thug)
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To: tflabo

You think the little ones are sinners?


36 posted on 08/27/2009 8:32:05 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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As far as I'm concerned there ain't no excuse For the raping and the killing and the child abuse And I've got a way to put an end to all that mess.

Just take them rascals out in the swamp Put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump Let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest.

'Simple Man'---by Charlie Daniels Band

37 posted on 08/27/2009 8:32:37 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Now that is my kind of ending.


38 posted on 08/27/2009 8:35:55 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: Doe Eyes
You think the little ones are sinners?

No--- he brought them unwillingly to participate in his own sin thereby corrupting them with it --and that's what the wording of that scripture means.

39 posted on 08/27/2009 8:36:34 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: OldDeckHand
I think the folks at DailyKos would argue (correctly) that this vile human being would not be a candidate for the death penalty because he didn't kill anyone. (Don't get me wrong: I'd love to see the guy strung up, but kidnapping and rape without murder don't make a defendant legally eligible for the death penalty.)
40 posted on 08/27/2009 8:53:56 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: nmh
God spoke to him through a box.

Was it a radio? And was God's first name "Rush"?

41 posted on 08/27/2009 8:57:17 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.)
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To: nmh
Is he pretending to be part of some strange Mormon sect?

No, evangelical.

42 posted on 08/27/2009 8:59:06 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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Is he pretending to be part of some strange Mormon sect?

No, evangelical

Wrong! That’s not Evangelical!

With multiple sex partners ... Mormonism came to mind ... . Age was not a barrier for that compound out in Utah.


43 posted on 08/27/2009 9:02:53 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: GOPJ
Yes, and maybe it's time to discuss killing all pedophiles.

As long as we don't let idiots define the term pedophiles. Equating a 19 year old having a 15 year old girlfriend (which I totally object to) with a 19 year old abusing a pre-teen is nonsensical. I'd totally support death for people who abuse actual children.

Flame away!

44 posted on 08/27/2009 9:04:48 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.)
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To: utahagen
"I think the folks at DailyKos would argue (correctly) that this vile human being would not be a candidate for the death penalty because he didn't kill anyone."

Yes, I familiar with the law, even in California. But, there's a tremendous difference between what punishment this man should be eligible for, and what he is eligible.

Less than 100 years ago in the very same city in which he lived, this guy could have, and would have been hanged just for stealing horses. Now, that sounds excessive by today's standards, but back in the day, if you stole a man's horse(s), there's a reasonable chance you could be killing him by stranding him someplace not very forgiving. So, to deter criminals from committing a crime that might possibly create lethal or life-altering consequences, they hanged horse thieves. It didn't stop it, but it made it much less common.

This kidnapper/pedophile/rapist has ruined - probably forever - the lives of three innocent children. For that, in my opinion, he should forfeit his own. It won't undo the damage he's already done, nor will it make anyone whole, but any amount of satisfaction it brings either the victims or the people of California, would be worth it.

45 posted on 08/27/2009 9:10:09 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: Onelifetogive

For a mandatory death penalty - having sex with a person under the age of 11. All the other laws stay in place as they are - but sex with a child 11 pulls an automatic death sentence. To be carried out within 8 months.


46 posted on 08/27/2009 9:12:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Giving money to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys-ORourke)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Thus introducing more Americans to Rule 303.


47 posted on 08/27/2009 9:14:54 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: GOPJ
For a mandatory death penalty - having sex with a person under the age of 11. All the other laws stay in place as they are - but sex with a child 11 pulls an automatic death sentence. To be carried out within 8 months hours.

That's better...

48 posted on 08/27/2009 9:14:55 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.)
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To: tflabo
No--- he brought them unwillingly to participate in his own sin thereby corrupting them with it --and that's what the wording of that scripture means.

"Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin."

It says the little ones sin.

49 posted on 08/27/2009 9:15:09 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: DJ MacWoW

Camouflaged? Did you see the aerial photos of that place? Given that many sex offenders have been known to harbor victims at the their homes or other properties they control, it behooves anyone charged with inspecting their home to inspect *everything* and to pay especially close attention to things that look peculiar or out of place. When you see an array of tents and sheds in the backyard of a suburban home of a sex offender, the right reaction is to go inside each and every one and see what’s there. Also check the basement, the attic, the garage, and the entire outdoor surface of the property. And of course any computers in the home.


50 posted on 08/27/2009 9:18:46 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Vote for a short Freepathon! Donate now if you possibly can!)
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