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5 Liberal Lies About Obamacare
Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2009 | John Hawkins

Posted on 08/25/2009 4:10:25 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Liberal claim: Abortion won't be covered by the bill.

Short answer, if it isn't explicitly prohibited in the legislation, they will "find" coverage for this or anything else at a future date.

Putting a prohibition in the bill would require CONGRESSIONAL change to the law at a future date to permit it. They would find it harder to push through that subsequent law (unless it was bundled in some unrelated legislation).

But telling me something "won't happen" because it may or may not be explicitly permitted in today's rough draft don't mean s**t.

21 posted on 08/25/2009 8:04:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Coming to Marxists' Vineyards this 2009 - Wee Wee's Big Adventure.)
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To: rcrngroup

As Ronald Reagan said back in the days when he was ONLY an actor, any such plans will accomplish their socialist ends by incrementalism.

Barry is already using this soft sell when he points out that people are already using Medicaid. It doesn’t work as an answer to say “THIS ISN’T SOCIALISM”. It only works if he is trying to suggest “Socialism is not such a foreign concept, really...”.


22 posted on 08/25/2009 8:06:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Coming to Marxists' Vineyards this 2009 - Wee Wee's Big Adventure.)
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To: Mr. C

Yes.

The banking crisis appears to be a deliberate act. Looting by insiders. Just how did Louis Freakshow and Jamie Gorelick go from being National Security “experts” to banking “experts” and walk away with millions for their actions?

All socialist revolutions including a looting of the treasury.

The bailout wasn’t designed to help the capitalist economic system. It was political payback for insiders and activists.


23 posted on 08/25/2009 8:09:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Coming to Marxists' Vineyards this 2009 - Wee Wee's Big Adventure.)
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To: Mare
2 words:

Golden Parachute.

24 posted on 08/25/2009 8:10:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Coming to Marxists' Vineyards this 2009 - Wee Wee's Big Adventure.)
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To: Kaslin; newgeezer
Liberal claim: The public option won't kill private health insurance.

If COBRA via Ceredian is private, it deserves to be killed.

25 posted on 08/25/2009 8:31:17 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (I can reach across the aisle without even using my sights.)
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To: Kaslin; nutmeg

BTTT


26 posted on 08/25/2009 8:38:24 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: DungeonMaster
If COBRA via Ceredian is private, it deserves to be killed.

If you don't like it, I'm sure you're welcome to shop around for something better. Oh, wait, government says medical insurance cannot be sold across state lines. Therefore, your choices are very few.

As is so often the case, the answer to this problem is LESS GOVERNMENT involvement, not more.

27 posted on 08/25/2009 8:45:08 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Abathar

Will I get my years back?


28 posted on 08/25/2009 9:37:55 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: good1

E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.


29 posted on 08/25/2009 9:50:57 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Tell everyone, DEMS are the RACISTS...they created the KKK and Jim Crow Laws...to start)
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To: EdReform; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...
ping!

Thanks again for the heads up, EdReform.

30 posted on 08/25/2009 11:29:48 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 08/25/2009 11:32:51 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: sirchtruth

I guess theres room for them in the big TARP repubican party. We’re going to at best wind up with a smarmy libpub like mcain.


32 posted on 08/25/2009 11:37:00 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Kaslin

Thanks to Townhall.com for the idea

33 posted on 08/25/2009 2:56:22 PM PDT by Howie
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To: hosepipe

Here’s your “Trojan Donkey” idea!


34 posted on 08/25/2009 3:18:06 PM PDT by Howie
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To: runninglips
Are you willing to just hand the reins of power back to the Republican party, which showed since ‘94 that they do not truly believe in limited govt, balanced budgets, freedom, liberty or the “American Way”. The political process is broken, and a simple change of jailers is not going to to a damn thing, except take us where the Democrats want us to go, with Republican drivers.

The majority of Republicans - certainly Conservatives - want to rein in government intervention and spending.

The vast majority of demoncrats are Marxist, and the ones who aren't will still vote with the herd. Unity amongst the party is mandatory. Individualism is not accepted.

What we need is a Conservative Party. For now, all the conservatives are in the Republican party.

Hopefully, the liberals have overplayed their hand this time, and the RINOs who joined them to placate - rather than educate - their liberal constituents and majority party peers will be washed out with the tide.

35 posted on 08/26/2009 7:09:20 AM PDT by 4woodenboats
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To: Mare
Why push this bill when it will also destroy them?

Personally? No because they aren't covered under the plan, they have their own.

Politically? No because they have other ways to guarantee their reelection (e.g. ACORN).

Destroy the country? Yes, that is their goal, but they will have their gated communities to retire into.

36 posted on 08/26/2009 7:26:00 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: 4woodenboats
The majority of Republicans - certainly Conservatives - want to rein in government intervention and spending. I wish that were true, but IMO, Republicans love power, believe that the country is fine except for a little fine tuning, and that they can steer a course towards sanity. The problem is not those that we elect, but that the govt is loose from the chains of the Constitution, and unless we can get it back on its leash, the best hope for Liberty on this Earth will be gone in less than 12 years.
37 posted on 08/26/2009 10:21:23 PM PDT by runninglips (It was just time for this to come to a head.....)
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To: Mr. C

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2009/09/23/hr_3200_will_collapse_global_medicine_97423.html

Cutting through it all: MEDICAL WINTER


38 posted on 09/23/2009 2:19:26 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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