Oh, there is something like it!
Posted on 08/24/2009 11:19:54 AM PDT by lizol
Russian TV claims Poland was WW II aggressor
24.08.2009 03:35
On the anniversary of the signing of the Molotov – Ribbentrop Pact on August 23, 1939, the Russian state-controlled Rossiya TV channel broadcast a documentary claiming Poland was planning an invasion with Nazi Germany of the Soviet Union.
The documentary claims that the government in Warsaw was in a secret alliance from 1933 with Nazi Germany and Japan in plans to invade the Soviet Union. The deal was struck within the, as yet, unpublished part of a non-aggression treaty between Poland and Germany signed in January 1934.
Hitler’s portrait in the cabinet of Poland’s pre-war Foreign Minister Jozef Beck proves the thesis, claims Russian TV journalists.
In June, after part of the documentary was broadcast, the Polish embassy in Moscow strongly protested.
“The report is deceitful and unreliable. It is a striking example of the falsification of history,” read the official statement by the embassy. “
Russia’s Foreign Ministry retaliated saying that the Kremlin is not responsible for the content of programmes aired on state TV. “Opinions voiced on TV channels should not come under the consideration of state agencies. What times, exactly, is it being suggested we return to?”
Foreign Ministry – no comment
Poland’s Foreign Ministry in Warsaw has yet to make a formal response, a stance approved of by former head of Polish diplomacy Adam Rotfeld. He argues that the Polish government should only react to statements made by state authorities rather than to claims made in TV programmes.
But the Kremlin appears to back the claims made in the documentary. In a bulletin published by the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, President Dmitri Medvedev is on record as saying: “The Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was a reaction to the efforts of western states at directing German expansion eastwards.”
Another former foreign minister, Dariusz Rosati, however, stated that Poland should take a firm stand on the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact and the reasons behind the outbreak of World War II.
There is nothing like Neo-Soviet revisionism.
Yeah, and 6 million Jews were plotting to kill Hitler, so he killed them first.
I guess they are going to ask for reparations.
Good grief. The Russians appears to be learning from the Obamaloon School of Inept Lying.
Hitler claimed the same thing.
“There is nothing like Neo-Soviet revisionism.”
except for fascist liberal democrat party//state-run media recisionism
Oh, there is something like it!
No wonder Russia is so backwards. They are STILL po’d that Hitler pulled a bait and switch on them. He needed time to invade France and kept Stalin at bay by making a deal with them. Then as soon as he had France he went after USSR. Hey Russia...you got into bed with the Nazi’s, LIVE WITH IT.
Is it any wonder that Russia today is viewed with fear and suspicion by her neighbors?
Did David Axelrod produce the film?
Oh, those wacky Russians! They never change, do they? Maybe they’re still mad that Poland kicked their ass in the 1920’s.
Sure there is.
If you check out Japanese school teachings they also were the defenders and did nothing wrong before or during the war.
“Russian TV claims Poland was WW II aggressor”
That’s exactly what Hitler claimed about Poland as the excuse to invade them! LOL!! What a bunch of idiots!!
Sept. 1939 Soviet Soldier: “Those Poles are such aggressors! I can’t believe they willfully shot at us as we were marching into their country! How dare those aggressors!”
*snicker*
The pact spelled out how they would divide up Europe, giving Russia the Baltic states and Finland.... how does that square with this? Nonsense.
Its not like the Russians weren’t planning to doublecross the NAZI’s, They thought Hitler would get bogged down in France... but that didn’t happen.
They must believe in the theory of needing bigger and better lies.
Poland was invaded, in part, after they refused a sort of junior partnership in the Axis that would have required them to give Germany the Danzig Corridor, and Danzig itself, as well as free passage [and support] to the German Wehrmacht for an invasion of the Soviet Union.
Poland’s cooperation with Nazi Germany was limited to taking a piece of Czechoslavakia [along with others] when Hitler moved into the rest of the country in 1939.
Wait ‘til the Japanese get with the [Russian] program, and claim the Free Poles bombed Pearl Harbor.
Hitler originally cautiously favored the pro-Soviets, and in November 1940 made Stalin the offer to join the Axis formally. However Stalin demanded Finland and the Dardanelles, which infuriated Hitler. He then switched firmly to the anti-Soviet camp and decided to invade Red Joe. Had Stalin and Hitler be a bit more compromising on their territiorial claims, the Nazi-Commie alliance may have well survived some time longer...
You’re right. Poland got the corridor that separated the Reich from Prussia in the Versailles treaty. Germany actually had a legitimate beef on this one.
I forgot what biography of Hitler I read it in but in it, the Poles thought they could beat the Wehrmacht!
Too funny PzLdr,
but not beyond the realm of propaganda.
Guess it depends on who wins.
Thank You.
I have not read about the India Plan. Was this to have a foothold to consolidate with Japan assuming total control of the entire Euro/Asian Continent? Stalin and Hitler good grief. Talk about two insane Dictators going head to head.
And they were probably right -- a decade before they were invaded.
Should be a warning to everyone just how quickly things can change.
And they were probably right -- a decade before they were invaded.
Should be a warning to everyone just how quickly things can change.
BAD miscalculation. Germany had them surrounded on three sides [the U.S.S.R had the fourth], and except for the mountains in southwest Poland, the Poles had no readily defensible geography before the Vistula and Narew Rivers. The Germans were able to execute a concentric double envelopment.
And Poland also took part of Lithuania, after issuing an ultimatum to them, before the war started, if I recall correctly.
Yes and I bet the Poles really enjoyed 50 years of the russians raping the country after they took it over after ww2. Is this russias next target after Ukraine and Georgia?The sleeping Bear is stiring.
There was no "cooperation" there, the Germans just chose to look the other way while Poland reclaimed land stolen from her in 1920s, it was a moot point to the Germans knowing what Poland's ultimate fate was to be.
Russia, still re-writing history.
Or as Freeper Dumpsterbaby so eloquently refers to Obamaloon.....
His Majesty Wee Wee The Magnificent !
and the loyal US Leftists continued to adore their Stalin....just like they adore Obozo now, even if he signed a pact with General Motors...the evil pharma companies, and other capitalists....oh, wait, he did!
The German Generals advocating sucha joint German-Soviet offensive in the Mid-East were partly those Reichswehr officers who in the 1920's and 30's were training secretly with the Soviets, and partly those (Niedermayer) who had WW1 experience with expeditions in Iran and Afghanistan.
The most important immediate gain however was the control of the oil of the Persian Gulf.
In his negotiations with the Soviets, Hitler granted them the "general direction towards the Persian Gulf", in other words Iran and it's oil.
A very "generous" offer by the Germans, but Stalin was just as insatiable as Hitler.
Hitler wanted Russia. The Poles had the misfortune to be in the way. Did he consider them untermennsch? Yes. But he did offer them a deal with the devil so he could get his army and air force free passage [and support]to the border of the U.S.S.R.
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