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CIA staff face new investigation as full details of prisoner abuse released
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | August 24, 2009

Posted on 08/24/2009 4:43:59 AM PDT by Schnucki

America's Justice Department said it would reopen an investigation into the role of CIA employees in torturing terrorist suspects, including an incident in which a detainee was subjected to a mock execution.

The Justice Department's ethics office recommend an inquiry in a report presented to Attorney General Eric Holder that will be released on Monday.

Details of prisoner abuses that were gathered in 2004 by the agency's inspector general have never been released but when the CIA first referred to the inspector general's findings, it decided that none of the cases merited prosecution.

"With the release of the details on Monday and the formal advice that at least some cases be reopened, it now seems all but certain that the appointment of a prosecutor or other concrete steps will follow, posing significant new problems for the CIA," the New York Times said. In some examples of abuse that have just been publicised, the CIA report describes how its officers carried out mock executions and threatened at least one prisoner with a gun and a power drill. The methods constitute possible violations of a federal torture statute.

Jailers used the tactics on Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, a suspect in the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, in an attempt to force him to yield information.

Nashiri, who was captured in November 2002 and held for four years in one of the CIA's "black site" prisons, was one of three al-Qaeda chiefs later subjected to a form of simulated drowning known as waterboarding, according to US media.

The report, completed in 2004 by the agency's inspector general, John Helgerson, also said that a mock execution was staged in a room next to one terrorism suspect.

CIA officers fired a gun in the next room, leading the prisoner to believe that a

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cia; democrats; prisonerabuse
I'm confused by zero's efforts to now demoralize and/or destroy the same CIA that helped undermine W back when he was president?
1 posted on 08/24/2009 4:43:59 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

"Obama Obama shifts FBI from Counter Terrorism to Fraud"

"Victims of Cole bombing upset
"A top officer slammed Obama's decision to seek the withdrawal of charges against the 2000 suspected U.S.S. Cole ship bomber."
>

"Impeach Obama Says Sister of Cole Sailor Killed in Terror Attacks
"The sister of Seaman James McDaniels, a sailor killed in the terror attack on the U.S.S. Cole wants President Barack Hussein Obama impeached
over his decision to withdraw charges against the al Qaeda mastermind of the attack."

"Mother of USS Cole Sailor Declines Obama-meet, Says "I Voted for the Wrong Person"
"After Obama dropped the charges against the suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole,
he asked the families of the victims in that tragedy to meet with him.
One mother refused, and now says,"I voted for the wrong person."

2 posted on 08/24/2009 4:48:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Schnucki

I distrust the CIA as much as I do Obama. Them crippling each other is very good news for the citizenry.


3 posted on 08/24/2009 4:50:59 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: RAO1125

The CIA employees need to stage a mass mock resignation to protest the anti-American leadership they are now under. That would get some attention.


4 posted on 08/24/2009 4:53:42 AM PDT by doosee
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To: RAO1125

Prisoner abuses is a non issue answers is an issue.


5 posted on 08/24/2009 4:53:49 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: RAO1125

What, exactly, has the CIA done that make you distrust them?


6 posted on 08/24/2009 4:53:57 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

MK Ultra, School of the Americas, Paperclip, Mockingbird, CHAOS, Dan Mitrione, you name it. I have no use for a bunch of legacy ivy leaguers to operate clandestinly in a free nation. The CIA is, and always has been, in business for themselves.


7 posted on 08/24/2009 5:08:09 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: Schnucki
I had to read this 2xs. I thought it must be parody cause I figured there was no way rational, serious adult minds could really be saying this crap.

Oh my what bad people we are! We are dealing with murderous barbarians who saw the heads of prisoners with dull sabers, rape and murder children, and our government propaganda machine is in a tizzy because one of our defenders shot a gun, IN ANOTHER ROOM, while playing head games with one the of guys who directed these barbarian thugs?

15% Unemployment, a stagnant economy, and THIS SILLY CRAP is what our Political-Media oligarchy thinks they need to be focusing on?

God save the Republic!

8 posted on 08/24/2009 5:21:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Obamanomics: we have to destroy the US Economy in order to save it!)
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To: Schnucki

The CIA needs to wake up and realize that the current administration is not their friend.


9 posted on 08/24/2009 5:21:34 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Schnucki
CIA officers fired a gun in the next room...

Next thing they will be upset with a person just carrying a gun in the next...

Wait a minute. They already are upset about that.

Never mind.

10 posted on 08/24/2009 5:29:01 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Too many zeros in the budget. And the White House.)
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To: Schnucki
He's also turning loose the ICRC, a pro-terrorist, anti-American operation whose involvement can only result in more American deaths and injuries.
11 posted on 08/24/2009 6:11:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RAO1125; WorkerbeeCitizen
School of the Americas has provided this nation, and the Western Hemisphere, in general, tremendous benefits, and has actually fostered peaceful development in many poor Latin American countries.

Only the commies and their running dog lackeys think otherwise.

12 posted on 08/24/2009 6:13:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: doosee

HUMMMM that’s an interesting idea. Ofcourse they can not picket-hold press conferences etc. But, maybe taking a week off for personal holiday might create some unease at the Gov level.
NAAAH, I like the idea of a giant info dump of all the files on the activities of Admin denizens and congress critters overseas. Since they are forbidden from U.S soil activities. Or they could start denying Security Briefings to the obviously Questionable Dems.


13 posted on 08/24/2009 6:21:09 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: RAO1125

These programs were needed and useful at the time they were implemented (except paperclip - we still have too many commies).

Perhaps a little move to the right will help you.


14 posted on 08/24/2009 7:02:00 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Schnucki
The only investigation that should be taking place is the one where we find out why the drill wasn't used.

People who interfered in such action should be punished, and eventually those who are presently interfering in future use of drills should also be punished.

This constant drumbeat of "we can't do that to terrorists who are trying to kill us" is having a demoralizing effect on me and making me realize the only way we can make this country safe again is to LOCK UP THE PANTYWASTES where they can't be heard.

15 posted on 08/24/2009 7:44:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The only investigation that should be taking place is the one where we find out why the drill wasn't used.

IS IT SAFE?

16 posted on 08/24/2009 8:30:34 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Yes, because only a conservative would want a secretive and unaccountable government organization with a license to kill to run amok. After all, big government is good government as long as I have the illusion of safety. Nothing says freedom like chemical mind control, mass surveilance, and media manipulation (all paid for by you and me, of course).
17 posted on 08/24/2009 11:20:27 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: muawiyah
Right, tremendous benefits like Los Zetas, Luis Carriles, Hugo Banzer, ect. I for one am thrilled the taxpayers have funded drug cartels, terrorists, and dictators.
18 posted on 08/24/2009 11:25:44 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: RAO1125
Did you ever stop to think for just a second ~ no, didn't think so.

There are a handful of people who went through School of the Americas and then went bad. There are more bad people who manage to get in and stayed bad. There are even far more bad people we got to and turned around.

Latin America will always have its thugs ~ they prize them highly ~ School of the Americas was designed to convert them, or teach their opponents from the old home country how to combat them.

People who oppose School of the Americas are actually lending support to the thugs, narcotrafficantes, murderers and riffraff that inflict Latin America.

19 posted on 08/24/2009 11:32:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Whatever you need to tell yourself. Just give me the “Unintended consequences” line.


20 posted on 08/24/2009 11:40:27 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: RAO1125
There's some good people in the CIA. Their intelligence helped avert som awful junk from happening over the last few years.

It's the Plames and Wilsons in the CIA who are the bottom-feeders.

21 posted on 08/24/2009 1:58:46 PM PDT by what's up
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To: RAO1125

Pound sand liberal.


22 posted on 08/25/2009 2:52:09 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Schnucki

Don’t confuse the CIA operatives with the CIA civil service weenies.


23 posted on 08/25/2009 2:54:38 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Schnucki
If the accounts in the article are true then this is a real black eye. The US detailed specifically how we would define torture in the reservations to the Convention Against Torture. Whatever your feelings about AQ and how they deserve to be treated, we should honor our obligations.
...the United States understands that, in order to constitute torture, an act must be specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering and that mental pain or suffering refers to prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from: (1) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering; (2) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality; (3) the threat of imminent death; or (4) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality.

U.S. reservations, declarations, and understandings, Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, Cong. Rec. S17486-01 (daily ed., Oct. 27, 1990).

24 posted on 08/25/2009 3:06:25 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Apparently honoring the law and virtues of your republic makes you a liberal now. It’s amazing how quickly some “conservatives” will abandon their principals as long as they have a Boogyman to keep them scared.


25 posted on 08/25/2009 4:31:15 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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