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Perry wants Obama to authorize 1K National Guard troops for border
KVIA ^ | 8/21/09

Posted on 08/23/2009 11:01:19 AM PDT by Sammy67

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21 posted on 08/23/2009 11:57:22 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Not so. The NG is mostly effectively nationalised these days (granted, this may not be the case in Texas, I don't know). Further, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution puts the responsibility in the hands of the United States and the Texas legislature, respectively, to wit:

Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

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Given that the influx of illegals has undeniably caused untold amounts of ''domestic Violence'', then the Legisature of the state must apply to the United States (iow, the President) unless for some reason it ''cannot be convened'', which I hardly think to be the case.

Technically, Perry's application for troops is Constitutionally improper, given that the Legislature most certainly can be convened, and should, according to the Constitution, be the body to make such application.

22 posted on 08/23/2009 11:58:48 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: RAO1125

i hope you agree with perry more than with senator KBH


23 posted on 08/23/2009 11:59:38 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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I think they both suck.


24 posted on 08/23/2009 12:12:53 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: Sammy67

Offer free ammo to anyone willing to guard the border and I say it’d be done immediately. Why wait for the Fed. do get off the pot, Just do it.


25 posted on 08/23/2009 12:44:52 PM PDT by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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Texas ping!

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26 posted on 08/23/2009 12:49:40 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (NO PISE EN MI')
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To: Sammy67
Nowwwwwwww Rickie wants to act tough on the border issue?

Why now? ...what's changed? Oh! ...election coming up, of course.

27 posted on 08/23/2009 12:57:11 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Sammy67

Even though this is probably election-year politics, this NEEDS to be done.


28 posted on 08/23/2009 12:58:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Sammy67

What happened to the Texas National guard and why doesn’t he call it up himself. He doesn’t need Bozo’s permission to call up the guard. The only time Bozo has control is when he is using them overseas in battle, the troops still here are Perry’s to command. I thought he was all for the 10th amendment, what happened to that?


29 posted on 08/23/2009 1:00:09 PM PDT by calex59
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To: uncbob

That WOULD piss them off.

Wonder what a bunch of out of work, former military trained Cartel members would do?


30 posted on 08/23/2009 1:01:14 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Sammy67

Authorize them, arm them, and issue them live ammmo. Then tell Am-Nasty International, the ACLU, LaRAZA, and any of the other busy bodies to go pound sand.


31 posted on 08/23/2009 1:02:07 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: gaijin
While the Predator is a great vehicle it cannot control our borders unless we are willing to shoot people on sight as they cross the border. We need people on the ground. Things like the Predator can be used in conjunction with troops but a thinking human being with a gun on the ground is the primary requisite.

The thing is Perry is using Bozo as an excuse, he doesn't need Bozo's permission to call out the guard.

32 posted on 08/23/2009 1:04:13 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Sammy67

Must be an election year coming up...


33 posted on 08/23/2009 1:25:51 PM PDT by CenTex (Texas has a governor for sale; make an offer...)
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To: gaijin
Dern shame they won't use the good ones down there.


34 posted on 08/23/2009 1:37:14 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: Sammy67

bump


35 posted on 08/23/2009 4:25:32 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Sammy67

Governors are CIIC of their state’s NG - they don’t need Oblahblah’s permission to deploy their state’s NG, or do they know under Dear Leader?


36 posted on 08/23/2009 4:27:25 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Obama-care won't pull Grandma's plug - because Grandma won't be plugged in under Obama-care.)
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To: gaijin

Bosnia


37 posted on 08/23/2009 4:27:30 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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Related items from NAFBPO M3 Foreign news report:

Mexico ranked 16th most violent country in the world (10 in Latin America and we worry about the middle east!)

Critica (Hermosillo, Sonora) 8/18/09

Mexico’s “CIDAC” (Center of Research for Development, an “NGO”) has published a 16 page Spanish language document which states that Chihuahua, Baja California and the state of Mexico head the list with the most homicides, vehicle thefts and executions in Mexico; it adds that, on a world scale, Mexico ranks 16th with the highest index of violence and crime among 115 nations. The study sets out that the nation’s gravest problems are “the non-existence of an integral vision that might emphasize prevention; the lack of professionalism of police and of agents charged with carrying out justice; a penal system without transparency re discretion and corruption as well as an extremely high impunity rate which reaches 98.3% (the probability that a person who breaks the law may have to face a judge is 1.7%)”

The entire report [ we have not translated it; it’s in the Spanish language ] from CIDAC is attached. Page 7 of the report lists the 16 most violent countries of the world. Ten of these are in Latin America or the Caribbean. The report was also found on the front page at www.cidac.org.

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Monday 8/17/09
Cartels assuming mafia roles; Feds lacking support from state and local enforcement

El Universal (Mexico City) and Cambio de Michoacan (Morelia, Michoacan) 8/16/09

La Familia, Michoacan’s de facto government
In Hidalgo City, Michoacan, some 35 miles east of the state’s capital of Morelia, merchants know well the payment list for “protection” exacted by the drug cartel La Familia Michoacana in order to stay in business: 100 pesos [$7.75] monthly for a vendor’s stand in an alley, on up to 30,000 pesos [$2,335] for an automotive or builders supply concession. If one doesn’t pay, he suffers a beating. A second such offense can result in death. ”Yes, it is La Familia… they take you away and they beat you up. Every day the victims [the word used was madreados, a term not politely translated] arrive at the hospital,” commented a mechanic.

The drug cartels have truly become mafias of extortion, charging for protection and dealing in everything, even pirating movies on DVDs. Cocaine no longer generates the profit it did because it has become ever more difficult to trick the Mexican and US authorities, which is why the cartels have gone to additional criminal activities, including those easier and more profitable than drugs. Two and a half years ago, President Calderon launched the fierce campaign against narcotraffic, which has already killed 11,000 people and converted quiet rural localities like Hidalgo City into battle fields. The criminal gangs are now inserting themselves into the Mexican society as never before, making it harder to fight them. They manage businesses, generate employment and offer social services not provided by the government. The local authorities say they do not have enough people to investigate the gangs and ask the state to intervene. The state, in turn, passes the responsibility on to the federal government, since organized crime is in that jurisdiction.

A police report on the cartel in April pointed out that “a sense of ‘impunity’ is derived from the confidence that no one is going to confront them, not the police (because in many cases it is presumed that corruption exists within the police forces), nor the civilian society (because they live intimidated and their panic impedes action).” In Hidalgo and neighboring cities, civil authorities are thought to work for La Familia Michoacana since the criminal organization controls most of the central and western parts of Mexico.

In Arteaga, another city in Michoacan, the “capo” of La Familia, Servando Gomez Martinez, “La Tuta,” is venerated because he helps the people with food, clothing and even medical services. ”He has the reputation as a man who helps people. He’s a common man like us who wears huaraches,” said a farmer, pointing to his own native sandals. An agent from the US, speaking anonymously, said, “This is like Chicago when Al Capone managed it all. He controlled everything from shoeshine boys to taxi drivers.”

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38 posted on 08/25/2009 8:18:55 AM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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