Posted on 08/23/2009 9:08:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
WASHINGTON (AP) Republican Sen. John McCain says the absence of ailing Ted Kennedy in pushing health-care reform has made a "huge, huge difference" in whether legislation gets passed.
McCain praised Kennedy, a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, as a master negotiator who could bring together parties with different points of view and make the right concessions to reach agreement. McCain said health-care reform might be in a very different place today if Kennedy had been able to participate in the discussions.
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I think Red Ted’s “absence” is proof that God has not turned his back on America, yet.
Only a complete fool would have anything to do with the democrat plan.
Then again McCain was created by the State Media to be the Designated Loser of the Stupid Party.
And I voted for that idiot.
Seriously, Arizonans, what gives?! What in heck keeps you all voting for this guy? Yes, yes, I know what your border situation is, but you can do better.
And that would be a good thing?
Republican Sen. John McCain says the absence of ailing Ted Kennedy in pushing health-care reform has made a “huge, huge difference” in whether legislation gets passed.
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Put both of these men out to pasture!
McCain said health-care reform might be in a very different place today if Kennedy had been able to participate in the discussions.
Well then we are fortunate that he WASN’T there....now aren’t we
“McCain=rolled over like a beached Whale Nov 4 2008”
On the day of the election, we prayed, we did novenas, we fasted.
In our house, we prayed, “Please Lord, your will be done. And if it’s your will, let Obama lose.”
We were very sad when he won. My youngest daughter cried hysterically about all the unborn babies. Our Priest gave a homily to the kids at Catechism about “God’s Will” and how now our job is to pray for the enlightenment of our leaders. Honestly, I was angry. I felt that The Lord did not listen.
Now I know He did. If McCain had been president, he would have screwed it up and there would have never been another R for a good long time.
One of the FReepers has that tagline that says “It takes a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.” That is correct.
It’s crap statements like that why I consider McCain utterly unfit for leadership.
maybe this is a better structure of that sentence:
John a.k.a. “rolled over like a beached whale, Nov 4 2008” McCain
Cry me a river Juan. So McCain thinks all that’s missing is a negotiator to make universal healthcare acceptable to the American people. Please!
McCain has a head full of rocks. Kennedy might have been able to get McCain and the other rino’s to jump on, but this isn’t about D.C. This is about the American people saying no to socialized medicine.
Just another example of why McCain lost to Obama.
STEPHANOPOULOS: The president also says that the debate has been infected by falsehoods. And probably the most notorious one is the one made by your former running mate, Sarah Palin , who said that his bill would encourage death panels that would encourage euthanasia.
He called that an extraordinary lie and he is right about that, isnt he?
MCCAIN: Well, I think that what we are talking about here is do — are we going to have groups that actually advise people as these decisions are made later in life and...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Thats not in the bill.
MCCAIN: But — its been taken out, but the way that it was written made it a little bit ambiguous. And another thing ...
STEPHANOPOULOS: I dont think thats correct, Senator. The bill — all it said was that, if a patient wanted to have a Medicare consultation about end-of-life issues, they could have it at their request and the doctor would get reimbursed for it, no panel.
MCCAIN: There was a provision in the bill that talks about a board that would decide the most effective measures to provide health care for people, OK?
Now, we had amendments. We Republicans have said that in no way would that affect the decisions that the patients would have made and their families. That was rejected by the Democrats and the HELP Committee.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But thats not a death panel.
MCCAIN: So what does — what does that lead to? Doesnt that lead to a possibility, at least opens the door to a possibility of rationing and decisions made such are made in other countries?
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, every single independent group that looked at it said it just wasnt true.
MCCAIN: Well, then why did the Democrats turn down our amendments that clarified that none of the decisions that would be made by this board would in any way affect the depriving of needed treatments for patients?
I dont know why they did that then.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you think Sarah Palin was right?
MCCAIN: Look, I dont think they were called death panels, dont get me wrong. I dont think — but on the best treatment procedures part of the bill, it does open it up to decisions being made as far — that should be left — those choices left to the patient and the individual. Thats what I think is pretty clear, which was a different section of the bill.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You worked — have worked a lot with Senator Kennedy, on immigration and other matters. How much of a difference has it made that he hasnt been part of this debate?
MCCAIN: Huge, huge difference. No person in that institution is indispensable, but Ted Kennedy comes as close to being indispensable as any individual Ive ever known in the Senate, because he had a unique way of sitting down with the parties at a table and making the right concessions, which really are the essence of successful negotiations.
So its huge that hes absent, not only because of my personal affection for him, but because I think that health care reform might be in a very different place today.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000003193712
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Idiot. Kennedy doesn’t negotiate. He skulks around behind the scenes looking for ways to get over on his opponensts. What Kennedy did behind the scenes of the Bork nomination in 1987 is a perfect example.
Kennedy prefers not to debate, not to negotiate because (as the infamous Roger Mudd interview showed) he can’t think on his feet. I give him credit for being ruthless and sneaky, but not for negotiation.
Kennedy’s ‘debate’ would more resemble a drunken lecture to the stupid Americans who don’t support Socialized Medicine, hasn’t McCain paid attention all these years they’ve been together?
Ping to post #18.
McCain saying Palin is right, without having the balls to actually say it. Sheesh!
And when asked where are thy fellow conservatives Cain I mean McCain said “AM I my brother’s keeper?”
Will someone please stand up and defeat this idiot in the AZ primary? No wonder we are in trouble with reps like McCaIn. He lost, the nation got Obamanation so now go away.
McNitWit, you douchebag!
Two peas in a pod.
Time for BOTH to retire . . . God’s taking care of one, the Voters in Arizona will have to take care of the other.
Mary Jo was unavailable for comment.
Stephanopogus is an Obama ass kisser. WOW has anyone ever seen a reporter SO in love with a President. Yesterday he posted on his ABC blog how everyone must rally around Obama, and the comments section, it was 99-1 telling George to go F himself, it was AWESOME. Now as far as McCain goes, what else is knew, he stands up for Sarah, without really standing up for her. Now we know who had the balls on that ticket
I really hate that man. GO TO HELL Juan McPain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McCain, Udall to hold climate-change hearing in Estes Park MondayDemocratic Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado and Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona continue their odd-bed-fellows magical mystery tour over the August congressional break with a field hearing on climate change in Estes Park Monday.
Following their tandem trip to McCains home state this week to visit Grand Canyon National Park, Udall and McCain will convene a public hearing of the Energy and Natural Resources Subcommittee on National Parks at noon Monday at the Estes Park Town Hall to discuss the impacts of climate change on Colorados parks, according to a release from Udalls office.
The two will first tour Rocky Mountain National Park to look for signs of global climate change.
(quite a challenge for two guys who couldn't find their arses with both hands)(more at link)
EXCERPTING the Rat tool’s death panel ‘questions:’
STEPHANOPOULOS: The president also says that the debate has been infected by falsehoods. And probably the most notorious one is the one made by your former running mate, Sarah Palin , who said that his bill would encourage death panels that would encourage euthanasia.
He called that an extraordinary lie and he is right about that, isnt he?
...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Thats not in the bill.
...
STEPHANOPOULOS: I dont think thats correct, Senator. The bill all it said was that, if a patient wanted to have a Medicare consultation about end-of-life issues, they could have it at their request and the doctor would get reimbursed for it, no panel.
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STEPHANOPOULOS: But thats not a death panel.
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STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, every single independent group that looked at it said it just wasnt true.
Thank you Maggie. That makes me feel a little better seeing the entire conversation.
Whenever I get too depressed about the Joker, I imagine what it would be like with Meghan floating in and out of the WH, admonishing Republicans to be more like the Dems. McCain could barely be civil to conservatives when he needed our votes.
If he'd won, we'd probably be looking at the Republicans losing 8 more seats in the Senate in 2010, and 25-30 in the House.
LOSER
Everyone who voted for an “established big name” with zero principles (like McCain) in the primaries should be ashamed of themselves.
The Republicans nominating McCain was one of the dumbest things in the history of politics.
And yet, in 2012 some will say, “Romney has name recognition! Must nominate him!”
Making the same error all over again.
Not surprisingly, the AP left McCain’s “death panel” comments out of their report. I suppose due to the fact that his statements support Palin, indirectly.
McCain is also the foremost leader on "Climate Change" and Shamnesty.
Everybody in AZ better vote against McCain even if a pinata is up against him.
I’m surprised George could talk with his lips so firmly on Obama’s backside. It’s amazing isn’t it, the lengths the media will go to protect this Marxist ass
Well, we all know Kennedy isn’t a master swimmer!!
Nor a master driver- especially of Oldsmobiles.
Democrats gave us Obama/Clinton; Republicans gave us Bush/McCane: to Hell with them both. Vote conservative of be damned.
It will be interesting to think of Teddy trying to negotiate his way out of hell.
Doubt that he will have much luck. They will need to put his grave in a private cemetery so I can’t go and pee on it.
As much effort Mc Cain expends in trying to convince Conservs he is “one of us”, is completely shown to be BS, with remarks like this.
Sarah is right BTTT
We might not survive 4-8 years of Obama. If term limits are still intact.
McCain thinks kennedy is a master negotiator. I think he’s a dissolute, unpunished killer.
Yeah, it would have been like having a Democrat but the Republicans would get the blame.
Being a Republican president, he would have pretty much caucused with Pelosi and Reid, but pressured Republicans as “their” president.
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