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Dean: GOP 'owes it to this country' to make healthcare stance clear
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Posted on 08/23/2009 8:33:07 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Dean: GOP 'owes it to this country' to make healthcare stance clear @ 11:12 am by Michael O'Brien

Republicans "owe it to this country" to make clear what aspects of healthcare reform they would support, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean argued Sunday.

Rebutting claims that President Obama needs to make known whether he would support a healthcare bill without his favored public (or "government-run) option for consumers, Dean insisted that it's Republicans — not Obama — who need to make a more concrete stance.

"I think the Republicans owe it to this country to give us a much clearer message about what they'll support, and what they won't support," Dean said during an appearance on CBS's "Face the Nation."

Dean took a shot at Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), a key Republican negotiator of bipartisan health compromise, for saying the Obama administration had sent "mixed signals" on health reform.

"We're getting pretty mixed signals from Sen. Grassley," Dean said. "I did not hear one time Sen. Grassley say what he would vote for. When he was in Iowa all last week, he basically letting people know that he didn't think he could vote for any bill that did not get the support of his Republican caucus and Republican leadership."

Dean, a physician who no longer practices, has emerged as a vocal proponent of the public option in recent weeks as the Democratic-backed component of health reform has been under attack by Republicans during the August congressional recess.

Dean condemned the idea of healthcare cooperatives, which have been proposed by some on the FInance Committee in lieu of the public option in order to win Republican and centrist Democrats' votes.

"That proposal is a political compromise, not a policy compromise," he said. "Nobody would know what it looks like."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; dean; grassley
How about NO?
1 posted on 08/23/2009 8:33:07 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Republicans “owe it to this country” to make clear what aspects of healthcare reform they would support, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean argued Sunday.

Dear Mr. Dean:

What part of NONE of it can’t you understand given the outrage and anger that is apparent at the town halls the dems are now refusing to go to?


2 posted on 08/23/2009 8:35:26 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dean doesn’t know what a lotta things look like,given where his head is most of the time....


3 posted on 08/23/2009 8:36:34 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Sarah Palin......Gippercuda 2012!)
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To: Sub-Driver

uhhhh, the American people have made it crystal clear that we reject your hellthcare socialism.


4 posted on 08/23/2009 8:37:20 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sub-Driver

84% of the people love their current health care. The GOP position is to defend the health care of those first, and worry about making health care more accessible second. The current system needs tweaking, not trashing. Massive socialism is not the solution.


5 posted on 08/23/2009 8:39:39 AM PDT by Always Right (It is not the Townhall crowds that are manufactured, but the Health Care Crisis that is manufactured)
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To: Sub-Driver
Howard it is the Democrat health care that needs to be made clear. We know Captain Zero lies about it every time he opens his mouth starting with My plan will....... Zero doesn't have a plan, it is the Pelosi plan and Zero hasn't read it.
6 posted on 08/23/2009 8:39:54 AM PDT by hflynn (The One is really the Number Two)
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To: Sub-Driver

“How about NO? “

GOP should be for torte reform, limiting malpractice pay outs, make litigators pay the legal costs of doctors for failed suits, and make it legal to abort lawyers until the 33rd trimester.


7 posted on 08/23/2009 8:40:22 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: Sub-Driver
YO, HOWIE... I believe we've made our intentions QUITE CLEAR!

NO


8 posted on 08/23/2009 8:40:33 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Howie, what part of “this thing is a s**t sandwich” do you not understand?


9 posted on 08/23/2009 8:41:24 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: y6162

watching Dean on ALL his CNBC clips about healthcare it is OBVIOUS Dean sees this as a step to the “no retreat” single payer.


10 posted on 08/23/2009 8:42:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sub-Driver
Republicans "owe it to this country" to make clear what aspects of healthcare reform they would support, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean argued Sunday.

What Dean should have said : Democrats "owe it to this country" to make clear what the various bills are truly going to do to the American public. This includes the rationed care, abortion, and financing of these bills by the American taxpayers.

There I fixed it.

11 posted on 08/23/2009 8:42:57 AM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (According to the MSM, I'm a fringe sitting, pajama wearing Freeper)
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To: Sub-Driver

We, the American People, have made our line-in-the-sand stance crystal clear...

Our Republican ‘leaders’ haven’t followed suit...


12 posted on 08/23/2009 8:43:08 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Another game of “hide the salami.”

According to Specter, “There’s no bill in the Senate. There’s no bill on the House floor.”

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000003193714


13 posted on 08/23/2009 8:43:36 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Sub-Driver

Why, you have the votes. You don’t need the RNC for anything since its all yours.

Pray for America and Our Troops


14 posted on 08/23/2009 8:44:01 AM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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To: Sub-Driver

Republicans? Democrats have yet to make clear what they are proposing. They just keep insisting that “everyone agrees there needs to be reform,” as if, even if it were true, that means anything at all.

Here’s an analogy for the simpleminded (I’m looking at you, Howard Dean): Everybody in my neighborhood agrees the speed limit needs to be changed. Unfortunately, some of us want it higher, and some of us want it lower. The compromise? We’ll just leave it alone.

And polls suggest that leaving health care alone is exactly where the American people are in their thinking right now. People may have arrived at that preference from a lot of different directions, but almost nobody agrees with the President, who keeps trying to portray the current state of American medicine as some kind of crisis. The rest of us live in the real world, and there is no crisis.

And without a crisis, the whole White House strategy falls apart.


15 posted on 08/23/2009 8:48:05 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003193725

CQ Transcript: Health Care Focus for Sens. Grassley and Conrad on CBS’ ‘Face The Nation’

CQ Transcriptwire

SPEAKERS: BOB SCHIEFFER, HOST

SEN. CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, R-IOWA

SEN. KENT CONRAD, D-N.D.

FORMER DNC CHAIRMAN HOWARD DEAN


16 posted on 08/23/2009 8:49:26 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Sub-Driver

>>>> give us a much clearer message about what they’ll support, and what they won’t support,” <<<<<

We’ll support private enterprise.

We won’t support Socialism.


17 posted on 08/23/2009 8:49:37 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Howard Dean owes it to the country to flush his pathetic existence down the toilet.


18 posted on 08/23/2009 8:50:34 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: PhatHead

Excellent post!


19 posted on 08/23/2009 8:51:38 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: PhatHead

>>> The rest of us live in the real world, and there is no crisis. <<<<<

Untrue.

There is a crisis among socialists and “community organizers” who see that their constituency of layabouts and illegal aliens do not have health insurance.

And by God, that’s racist and classist! /sarc


20 posted on 08/23/2009 8:53:31 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Democrats are lying scam artist. I don’t want to back anything they come up with.


21 posted on 08/23/2009 8:54:36 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberalism has changed-It used to be about free speech.. now it's about controlling speech-RobinofB)
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To: Sub-Driver
Dean: GOP 'owes it to this country' to make healthcare stance clear

???

Ahh, you there libtards don't even know and it's YOU maroons who are promoting it.

When the he!! does the idiocy end?

22 posted on 08/23/2009 8:56:33 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: penelopesire

“GOP should be for TORTE reform,.....

Actually I like my TORTE the way it was made,,perhaps microwaved for a few seconds though

Definitions of torte on the Web:

* rich cake usually covered with cream and fruit or nuts; originated in Austria
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn


23 posted on 08/23/2009 8:59:53 AM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: penelopesire

“GOP should be for TORTE reform,.....

Actually I like my TORTE the way it was made,,perhaps microwaved for a few seconds though

Definitions of torte on the Web:

* rich cake usually covered with cream and fruit or nuts; originated in Austria
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn


24 posted on 08/23/2009 8:59:54 AM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: Sub-Driver

W-h-y?

Howie, you guys are in charge, you've got majorities in Congress. You've stated on past occasions just how much you hate Republicans and all that they stand for.

So why now should their opinion matter to you?

I mean, all of unwashed masses are just ants for you to step on. But even though we're politically sub-human, you want us to clarify our opposition?

Howie, you should be out driving a garbage truck. That's all you're mentally equipped for. (No disrespect intended to garbage truck drivers out there; you guys are likely much smarter than this low-watt bulb.)

25 posted on 08/23/2009 9:00:53 AM PDT by kromike
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To: newfreep

Top ten ways to cut health care costs.

1. Eliminate pharmacies and have the post office deliver medications.
2. Make malpractice suits a TV reality show.
3. Direct deposit government checks to trial lawyers.
4. Ration major surgery using Power Ball.
5. Put the admissions office for hip replacements on top of El Capitan.
6. Put the TSA employees in charge of all other admissions.
7. Contract with Roto Rooter for heart by-pass and colon surgery.
8. Have Thursday night emergency room specials to avoid the weekend build up.
9. Put laundromats in hospitals and let the patients relatives change the sheets.
10. Do sweat the expensive stuff; we are all going to die anyway.


26 posted on 08/23/2009 9:01:13 AM PDT by pompelmous (Unintended consequences)
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To: RichInOC

Who the heck is Howie Dean? zer0 dumped him, Why should I care what He wants?


27 posted on 08/23/2009 9:02:06 AM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: RichInOC

“this thing is a s**t sandwich”

It’s our famous “Bowel Burger Au Jus!” Or, as Fubama would say,”It’s a Woo Woo Sammich” with my special “Wee Wee Sauce!”


28 posted on 08/23/2009 9:02:35 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: angkor
We’ll support private enterprise.

We won’t support Socialism.

Yes, but, to paraphrase Chesterton, a free market in health care has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found difficult and never tried.

I wish there were more advocates on the side of markets in Washington, but I'm afraid there are too many Republicans who are members of what Dick Armey recently called "the bed-wetters caucus."

At some point, I'd like to see Republicans offer up some reforms that begin to establish some type of free market in health care, but now is not the time for that. The current monstrosity needs to be stopped in its entirety. It can't be fixed.

29 posted on 08/23/2009 9:03:47 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: pompelmous

Hilarious! Oh, wait - is this actually an excerpt from the bill?


30 posted on 08/23/2009 9:04:48 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: outhousepatrol

“Dean: GOP ‘owes it to this country’ to make healthcare stance clear”

OK, Howie baby, we’ll just grab a hank of rope and help you get up to “street light level”....should have a clear view for a few seconds, TILL ALL SYSTEMS SHUT DOWN!


31 posted on 08/23/2009 9:05:03 AM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: PhatHead

I agree with you points, but the ideal is to support free market solutions and to quash socialist boondoggles run by “the government.”


32 posted on 08/23/2009 9:05:45 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The RATS are in trouble and they know it! Right now, they are trying to focus the blame on the Republicans.

Somehow, I don't think it is gonna work, this time.

33 posted on 08/23/2009 9:06:33 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: Always Right

“84% of the people love their current health care. The GOP position is to defend the health care of those first, and worry about making health care more accessible second.”

I disagree because here in NY, I don’t get health insurance from my employer (and certainly not when I am not employed) and I can’t get the individual insurance options from other states.


34 posted on 08/23/2009 9:06:52 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: outhousepatrol

“Dean: GOP ‘owes it to this country’ to make healthcare stance clear”

OK, Howie baby, we’ll just grab a hank of rope and help you get up to “street light level”....should have a clear view for a few seconds, TILL ALL SYSTEMS SHUT DOWN!


35 posted on 08/23/2009 9:07:28 AM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: Sub-Driver
That's what I was thinking. I do think we have issues but with these various bills as a starting point I say trash the entire thing. We need to fix SS and Medicare so do that and when the congress/administration does that come back and we can talk.

I don't think the Democrats are negotiating from a honest position and I don't trust that they even care what is in the best interest of the country. I don't think most of them even like the country.

36 posted on 08/23/2009 9:09:34 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: PhatHead

“Yes, but, to paraphrase Chesterton, a free market in health care has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found difficult and never tried.”

yeah I don’t understand how we can say we have a free market in health insurance if people in one state can’t even get the insurance offered in another. This is supposed to be the *United* States...


37 posted on 08/23/2009 9:11:39 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: angkor

Yes, yes! Agreeing with you completely, just wishing more of our elected representatives felt the same way!


38 posted on 08/23/2009 9:12:24 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Sub-Driver

Howard Dean expects his opponent to provide the screamer a political diversion.

What an absolute raving idiot.


39 posted on 08/23/2009 9:13:35 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Howard, we don’t want your / insert George Carlin’s 7 words separated by commas / socialized healthcare.

Clear enough?


40 posted on 08/23/2009 9:14:08 AM PDT by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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To: outhousepatrol

“Top ONE ways to cut health care costs”.

1. ELIMINATE PEOPLE.......oh, the wouldn’t do that would they? SIEG HEIL (Hail Victory)

Just for you Barry! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vezr3dW4J5s


41 posted on 08/23/2009 9:14:42 AM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: Sub-Driver
Tort and no illegals, import Russian doctors, health fixed.
42 posted on 08/23/2009 9:17:19 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat; outhousepatrol

[outhousepatrol wrote, in part]

” “Top ONE ways to cut health care costs”.

1. ELIMINATE PEOPLE....... “

[org.whodat wrote, in part]

” import Russian doctors, “

Interesting confluence of ideas....


43 posted on 08/23/2009 9:28:25 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Sub-Driver
I'd love to see the RNC do a take-off on the old SNL Weekend Update stories for the hearing impaired with Garrett Morris, dedicated to Howard Dean:

The news reader would report on the GOP bills that would help resolved the health care problems, bills that have been ignored by the Dims and their media arm, the MSM.

44 posted on 08/23/2009 9:43:45 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Sub-Driver
Here i’ll clarify...

HANDS OFF MY HEALTHCARE!

comprende?

45 posted on 08/23/2009 9:47:14 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is like a rapist asking his victim to make their stance on how the rape should happen clear.
46 posted on 08/23/2009 9:48:29 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Uncle Ike

I recall reading a year are so back, maybe longer, that there was tens of thousands of Russian doctors so under employed, many of them are women, they are now working as hair stylists.


47 posted on 08/23/2009 9:51:12 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I’ll go you one better:

If it’s not in The Constitution, YOU CAN’T DO IT.

PERIOD.

(And that goes for all the other crap you Commies and fellow-travelers have passed into illegal “laws” over the last 70 years or so.)


48 posted on 08/23/2009 9:52:10 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Sub-Driver
Dean, a physician who no longer practices

Now that's patriotism. Props to Howlin' Howie.

49 posted on 08/23/2009 10:05:03 AM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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