Posted on 08/23/2009 2:15:28 AM PDT by Cindy
LAOS - "LAO SOLDIERS DECAPITATE TWO-MONTH-OLD GIRL AHEAD OF SENATOR WEBB'S VISIT Infant used as target practice during military attacks that leave 26 civilians dead."
August 20, 2009
(Excerpt) Read more at persecution.org ...
In a separate series of incidents — various videos - NOT FOR CHILDREN:
“Hunted Like Animals”
http://www.sommerfilms.org/documentaries/Hmong/index.php
Sickening. RIP.
Were they attacking or doing target practice?
Since neither the perpetrators nor the victims were white, don’t expect CNN or MSNBC to go into feeding frenzy mode any time soon.
More information at the article link ansel 12.
Anyone who believes that evil has NOT been unleashed upon the Earth and is growing ever more powerful in it’s malicious intent and virulence is simply blind.
God help us.
The question is the same, was it an attack or target practice?
How reputable is this source?
Why are asians so cruel?
What kind of a question is that ?
Well, enough about Senator Webb...
International Christian Concern has been reporting on Christian persecution and persecution for a very long time.
As of this date I have not had to pull any of their articles for disinformation.
However, I am a housewife and not a reporter. I post here what I see on the internet.
If you have any questions, contact International Christian Concern here:
http://www.persecution.org/suffering/contactus.php?PHPSESSID=b6259b46b50bbb672b7231b949cfa50e
That was a nice and effective answer, thanks.
http://doctorswithoutborders.org/press/release.cfm?id=3627&cat=press-release
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0908/S00250.htm
“Seven Hmong Families Forced to Laos Amid Tear Gas”
Thursday, 13 August 2009, 5:52 pm
Press Release: Center for Public Policy Analysis
“Seven Hmong Families Forced to Laos Amid Tear Gas”
Washington, D.C. and Nong Khai, Thailand, August 12, 2009
Contact: Maria Gomez, DCD
info@centerforpublicpolicyanalysis.org
Center for Public Policy Analysis (CPPA) www.centerforpublicpolicyanalysis.org
SNIPPET: “United States Senator Jim Webb, of Virginia, is visiting Burma, Thailand, Laos and Southeast Asia this week and, like U.S. Secretary of State Clinton, is expected to seek to urge the Thai military to stop forcing Laotian and Hmong refugees back to the communist regime in Laos that they fled.
Prior to Senator Webb’s visit to Southeast Asia, a senior level Lao communist official visited Lao Hmong refugees in Thailand seeking to persuade them to return to Laos voluntarily, which they refused. In response to the refusal of the Lao Hmong go back to Laos, elements of the Royal Thai Third Army and Thai Ministry of the Interior are reportedly using electric tazer-like guns, electric cattle prods and severe beatings to seek to “volunteer” and force Lao Hmong refugees and asylum seekers at Ban Huay Nam Khao refugee camp in Thailand.
The visit of the Lao communist official to the camp follows discussions in Thailand by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton with Thai Prime Minister Abhisit about the Laos, Hmong refugee crisis.”
Its a very serious one. Look down through history at the atrocities committed by Asians against Asians. Read about the japanese in WWII, read about the Vietnamese, read about the Chinese, look at these people in Laos. I just wonder what in their culture allows them to be so horribly cruel.
“Asian” isn’t a culture, it’s a continent. Same with Africa. You have psychotics in every race. Stalin wasn’t Asian, nor Hitler, nor Idi Amin, Castro or Guevera or Mugabe or a host of other bloodthirsty lunatics. A lot of this can be viewed through the prism of tribal hatreds, and those are as old as the human race.
Our adopted son is Laotian - his birth mother & grandmother fled for just these reasons.
It seems to me that something about Asian culture devalues life.
Actually they don’t suck at baseball, THEY JUST CAN’T BEAT US! ;-P
So Asians have a lock on cruelty?????
Did you read the article?
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Did I say that? Or is that where you are taking my statement. I made a comment that something about the Asian culture makes for particular broad based cruelty. I didn't say anything about having a lock on it, or deny that other cultures lack cruelty, or anything of the sort.
“and yes there is something known as Asian culture.”
No there isn’t.
“I’m talking about a broader willingness to be cruel. “
Your racism is telling.
“It seems to me that something about Asian culture devalues life.”
As opposed to 40 million unborn babies killed in the US??
Well, yeah, he was.
The country of Georgia is generally considered to be located in Asia.
“I made a comment that something about the Asian culture makes for particular broad based cruelty.”
No you made a racist comment with a strong implication that Asians are more cruel than other people.
They are darned near half the population at last count, and the only advantage we seem to have over the Asian countries in this regard is that our mad-dog killers are almost all registered Democrats.
“The country of Georgia is generally considered to be located in Asia.”
The continent asia, not the ‘culture’ of Asian.
Was Vlad asian?
More accurately, Eurasia is a continent, as the division between Asia and Europe isn't geographical in nature.
Asian is a race of people.
Nope. Armenians, Siberian Russians, Arabs and Vietnamese are about as diverse as you can get.
yes there is something known as Asian culture.
Nope again. What exactly do Saudis, Georgians, Japanese, Afghans and Bengalis have in common culturally?
Vlad who?
Lenin?
Putin?
Dracul?
Yes I did. Thank you for stating the obvious. Unlike my liberal friends I don't think every race based statement is wrong or "immoral."
All statements based on race are not wrong. I would never treat Asians differently, I just wonder why it seems to exist. I could be wrong, I’m certainly not being dogmatic about it.
A shame-
The Laotian Hmong and General Vang Pao were good allies.
Brave people. “Meo Maquis” (Meo = Chineese subsect) (Marquis = “the bush”)
“It seems to me that something about Asian culture devalues life.”
There is no “Asian Culture.”
Each nationality is different and if you attempt to tar a Chinese as Taiwanese as Japanese as Thai or Malaysian, you are completely off base.
Each culture is different. There are evil people all over, many in the US, so don’t attempt to tar all Asians.
My comment still stands. If you look at the way the Japanese acted in WWII, and the way they acted in China, the Vietnamese were particularly cruel in war, the Chinese, the Koreans, this story about the Laosians is particularly cruel.
Again, I mean no offense to Asians. I have lived in Asia and very much enjoy Asians and their Asian Culture. I suppose technically it is Occidental Culture but it just doesn't have that ring. If I didn't have so many children here I would move back to Asia.
In any case, just take the statement at face value.
So true: Obama and his crew are more than willing to condemn generations of older Americans to an early and painful death through their health care reform.
But you did treat all asians differently by stating they were more cruel than anyone else.
No, of course not. I never stated that they were "more cruel than anyone else." There "seems" to be something in their society that makes cruelty broad and acceptable.
Read about the Rape of Nanking. Read about the brutality of tortures by the Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese etc.
In any case, my statement was an off handed statement in reaction to a horrible story about using a 2 year old for target practice.
I never meant to imply that Asians have a lock on cruelty.
Sure, read about the Holocaust too.
I've done better than read about it. I've been to the concentration camps. AGAIN, I didn't say that Asians had a LOCK on cruelty or atrocities. You either don't understand my statement or you don't care to.
“I have lived in Asia and very much enjoy Asians and their Asian Culture.”
By culture if you mean respect for elders and guests, that’s universal.
I get the gist of you cultural reference.
But, really, the cultures are very, very different and equating a Chinese culture with Thai or Japanese is going to get you in trouble over there.
Japanese think the Chinese are impossibly dirty people and the Chinese really do hate the Japanese and have not forgotten WWII.
And yes, cruelty is not simply a cultural phenomenon, but it is the human condition.
We are all beasts carefully hiding under these laws we have created to manage our natures.
Incidentally, I really, really, really liked your photo gallery on your about page ......... especially the Bond girl, Eva Green!
I totally agree with you.
Virginia must be so very proud of Senator Webb......
Spot on! Just as there are myriads of cultures in Europe, there are myriads of cultures in Asia...from work ethic, and Eastern mysticism, to Yin and Yang and Feng Shui! Western secular education doesn't lend itself to understanding culture...we seem to get hung up on the 'cult' part.
We don’t usually think of Sicilians and Swedes as sharing the same culture, since they are very different. However, all European cultures, being based on the Christian religion and the ancient classical heritage, have a great deal in common.
Many “Asian” cultures, by which I assume PM really means “East Asian” cultures, are much more different from each other than any two European cultures.
Their cultures just look similar to us, because what we focus on is their common difference from ourselves.
You make the statement that Asians have a culture that is more cruel than others. When others point out the atrocities committed by other races, you insist that the Asians are worse. Yet, you don't provide any explanation or analysis for your belief. If you are going to assert a belief perhaps you can explain it more. Either you have a rational basis for your opinion or you might just be a bigot.
How were the Vikings tied to "ancient classical heritage?" Christianity came late to them.
Why don't the Afghans share European culture. After all Alexander brought Greek "ancient classical traditions" to them?
After the fall of Rome, Europe was overrun by Asians bringing new ethnicity and culture to the continent.
The roots of common European culture lie more in the thinking starting in the Renaissance than that from Greek and Roman culture. This was the beginning of the modern secular order that began to erode the power of absolute monarchs and the Church and began to promote the idea of the individual. It took several hundred more years to develop into democracies across Europe.
I think that is a well-put point. But, I do think that there's some truth in the belief that generally speaking, eastern cultures and specifically Asian cultures don't place as much value on the individual life as western cultures do.
Much of it has to do with the philosophies that the cultures are built upon. Individual liberty is an ideal that flows from Greek and Roman statesmen and philosophers. We really don't see a similar or as pronounced equivalent in any of the Asian cultures, which are much more feudally based.
I'm not a theologian - by any stretch - by there's also a marked difference in the three respective leading religions in both cultures - with Christianity in the west and Islam and Buddhism in the east. Christianity's foundational premise is about individual salvation through the willing acceptance of Jesus as the Christ.
Islam, on the other hand, is completely and entirely about submission to Mohamed and Allah, quite different. Also, Buddhism is more collective in nature. It's about finding "harmony" in nature, about blending in with everyone and everything around you. It's primacy is the collective balance of nature over individual achievement or existence.
In short, western civilization celebrates the individual and the inherent (some say God-given) primacy of individual life and liberty. Eastern cultures tend to do the exact opposite - the collective supersedes the individual.
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