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The 60th Vote .... Fading
FR ^ | Aug. 20, 2009 | Yours Truly

Posted on 08/20/2009 1:55:51 PM PDT by canuck_conservative

(Disclaimer: The following is simply a brutal Machiavellian political analysis, and is not intended in any way to celebrate another's physical misfortune)

Democrats were giddy when Al Franken was declared the winner of the Minnesota Senate race, and for understandably good reason - they finally, but barely, had a filibuster-proof majority in that Body. And so they now press forward with their controversial healthcare legislation, confident that Republicans - and everyone else opposed - can do nothing to stop it.

But wait. One of those Senate votes is in serious decline - Sen. Ted Kennedy. Again, speaking in cold-blooded political terms, he doesn't have much time left, so the longer things drag out, the more his vote comes into question.

Indeed, his staff are now petitioning the MA Governor to change a state law that forbids quick Senate changes (enacted in 2004 to, ironically, stop Mitt Romney from appointing a quick Senate replacement for John Kerry). As it now stands, a MA Senate seat must remain vacant for 5 months before a replacement election can be called.

"A week in politics is an eternity" - Edward Heath

So .... we've still got a lot o'twists and turns in this road, folks. It ain't over yet, or guaranteed, by any means.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; filibuster; senate; supermajority; tedkennedy
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1 posted on 08/20/2009 1:55:51 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

No problem for the dems. Their 60th vote will come in the form of Collins or Snowe....


2 posted on 08/20/2009 1:58:07 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: canuck_conservative

Rats usually get what they want with little GOP opposition. Probably be the same here. IMO


3 posted on 08/20/2009 2:00:22 PM PDT by duckman (My Grandma Isn't Shovel Ready!)
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To: canuck_conservative
Indeed, his staff are now petitioning the MA Governor to change a state law that forbids quick Senate changes (enacted in 2004 to, ironically, stop Mitt Romney from appointing a quick Senate replacement for John Kerry). As it now stands, a MA Senate seat must remain vacant for 5 months before a replacement election can be called.

Ted Kennedy's handlers want his replacement to be SELECTED NOT ELECTED

Get out the disenfranchised voter signs. DON'T let the Democrats steal the Senate yet again.

4 posted on 08/20/2009 2:00:30 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: canuck_conservative
What about that fiercely independent senator Joe Lieberman?

He wouldn't vote with the crass rats, would he?

5 posted on 08/20/2009 2:00:35 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

He is only fiercely independent in the matter of defense. Otherwise he is a good Social Democrat.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 2:04:47 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: HIDEK6

I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Missouri’s Republican Senator Kit Bond votes for this power-grab.


7 posted on 08/20/2009 2:05:41 PM PDT by CH3CN
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To: canuck_conservative

Not to worry, Collins and Snowe will make up for the swimmer.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 2:06:45 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Carley; KoRn; HIDEK6

Yup, it would be a miracle if the Republicans could actually vote together.

How Collins and Stowe are allowed to stay in the GOP is a constant source of amazement to me!

And what IS Joe Lieberman’s position in the healthcare debate? He’s sure managed to avoid the news lately.


9 posted on 08/20/2009 2:10:57 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: KoRn
No problem for the dems. Their 60th vote will come in the form of Collins or Snowe....

Pansy Graham will knock himself out trying to beat those two to the punch.

10 posted on 08/20/2009 2:15:15 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (BARF of the YEAR: Obama "We are God's partners in matters of life and death,")
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To: canuck_conservative

I’m from MA. In principle, I don’t have a problem with the change. I’ve never liked an appointment to last until the following November election. The election should be called within a couple of months to get things together and the governor could appoint somebody in the interim of the people choosing their next representative in the Senate.

However, this reasonable rule should have been proposed and passed when the law was changed in 2004, not just because the current senator is sick and his vote may be needed. That’s changing a law not for the good of the people but for political expediency (as was the 2004 change).

This is nothing new in politics, of course. The answer is for the sick Kennedy to resign his seat post haste so that MA could have another senator. But no, the seat’s for life, dontcha know!


11 posted on 08/20/2009 2:16:25 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: CH3CN

I’m worried about Grassley.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 2:17:20 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: canuck_conservative
"And what IS Joe Lieberman’s position in the healthcare debate?"

I'm sure he is a Socialist on it, like he is with everything else. Of course, he IS from a state with lots of insurance interests, so who knows.

13 posted on 08/20/2009 2:21:39 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: murron

We’ve got to kill Deathcare in the House.....then the Senate won’t matter.


14 posted on 08/20/2009 2:21:56 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO and SEIU.....two domestic terrorist organizations doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: canuck_conservative

I called LIEberman’s office and expressed my concern that he would ever consider voting for a bill that had health care doled out by people who were deciding if an elderly person was entitled to medical care.

Got nothing but double talk from his office.


15 posted on 08/20/2009 2:24:31 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Don’t let the Democrats yet again steal the Senate.”

Democrats don’t steal elections. They “win” elections.

/S/


16 posted on 08/20/2009 2:35:54 PM PDT by ripley
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To: canuck_conservative

In addition, the 91 year old Sen. Robert Byrd is ill and not in attendance.


17 posted on 08/20/2009 2:37:37 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: canuck_conservative

You are more apologetic than I think you need to be.


18 posted on 08/20/2009 2:44:37 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

If I hadn’t put it in there, you just know some lefturd would be screaming how FR is a site that revels in others’ misery, or something to that effect.

Can’t take any chances these days!


19 posted on 08/20/2009 2:55:06 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
If I hadn’t put it in there, you just know some lefturd would be screaming how FR is a site that revels in others’ misery

And in fact we don't.

Still, the fact that its Massachusetts means that his replacement will be just like him. I don't have any hope of moral leadership coming from there.

20 posted on 08/20/2009 3:09:05 PM PDT by marron
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To: Rockingham

I’m actually surprised this rogue congress hasn’t passed rules allowing them to vote in absentia.


21 posted on 08/20/2009 5:10:30 PM PDT by Muzzle_em (FUBO!)
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To: ripley

The Democrats changed the code when a Republican was governor and now that the Dems are in high office again, they don’t want the public to vote for Kennedy’s replace. No vote, 60 seat majority in contention, they are stealing congress.

Rats cheat. They can cry that Republicans are Meanies but Democrats are outright EVIL.


22 posted on 08/20/2009 5:40:30 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: Muzzle_em

Shhhhh . . . Don’t give them any ideas!


23 posted on 08/20/2009 6:33:45 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: a fool in paradise

“They can cry that Republicans are meanies but Democrats are outright EVIL.”

Nah. Respectfully disagree.

Democrats are not EVIL. They are just SCU&BAGS.

IMHO


24 posted on 08/21/2009 9:35:46 AM PDT by ripley
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To: ripley

They serve the global Socialist agenda and seek to overthrow our constitutional form of government. They are NOT friendly to the works of the founding fathers.

They don’t necessarily seek violent overthrow of our government, but they have no respect for the Constitution. Al Qaeda is also versed in using the Constitution to help take down this country.


25 posted on 08/21/2009 10:04:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“They don’t necessarily seek violent overthrow of our government...”

The quote made me think of New Black Panther types, with clubs, dressed in black clothing, with boots, standing within one hundred feet or so of a polling place in Philadelphia.


26 posted on 08/21/2009 10:51:29 AM PDT by ripley
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