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Obama: "Basic Standard Of Decency" Allows Illegals To Be Treated
Real Clear Politics ^ | 8/20/2009 | Video

Posted on 08/20/2009 11:40:08 AM PDT by Lmo56

President Barack Obama said he would be okay with illegal immigrants being treated in emergency rooms in some situations under his health care plan.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agenda; aliens; bho44; bhocira; bhoillegals; crimigration; deportasap; duplicate; freeloaaders; healthcare; illegals; immigrantlist; paynotaxes; treatment
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I got NO problem with that - JUST as long as the hospital checks immigration status AND calls ICE if the person is found to be illegal ...

ICE THEN deports their ass back to whatever banana republic they came from ...

1 posted on 08/20/2009 11:40:09 AM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

...Starting with obama’s illegal aunt!


2 posted on 08/20/2009 11:42:23 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (O-B-A-M-A = One Big Ass Mistake, America.)
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To: Lmo56

My common decency would force me to not pack so many of them into the train cars on their way back home. I would also open a window or two so they could get air because boxcars can get real warm. Oh, and I would also wave goodbye, because I am decent, like the Obamas


3 posted on 08/20/2009 11:42:58 AM PDT by past_present
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To: Lmo56

And we should either bill back the country of origin or take the amount out of their aid package, if they get one.

LQ


4 posted on 08/20/2009 11:43:21 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: Lmo56

I agree. There’s a video at Numbers USA that proves we can’t possibly save the world from itself. The problem with Obama and lots of other liberals is that they’re real stingy with their own money and real generous with ours.

Obama is taking us to economic suicide.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 11:43:23 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Lmo56

and sends the bill to the country of origin along with the ass.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 11:43:53 AM PDT by curth
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To: Lmo56
I got NO problem with that

I have a problem w/anything that comes out of Barry's mouth. Trust NOTHING! He's a con man in case you haven't noticed.
7 posted on 08/20/2009 11:44:02 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Lmo56

That’s right. We are the US and we treat those who need it. No problem. However, whenever illegals are found, they need to return. There’s a downside to this, however. When the flu season arrives, we want people who need it to be treated. Those who are afraid of being discovered will not seek treatment and carry their infection to the wider public. So we need to carefully think through how we do this.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 11:44:08 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Lmo56

Treatment of illegals should be stabilizing. In general, other countries’ citizens should be treated here about the same way Americans — legally or illegally — visiting their countries would be treated.

And, if this is such news, why was the significance of the Heller Amendment (excluding illegals from the full benefits of HR 3200) being voted down in committee by Democrats not widely discussed?


9 posted on 08/20/2009 11:44:19 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Lmo56

Ditto to that, Lmo!


10 posted on 08/20/2009 11:44:37 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength". Orwell)
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To: top 2 toe red

...Starting with obama’s illegal aunt!

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Yeah !!! - Thats the ticket !!!

BTW ... like your nick tag !!!


11 posted on 08/20/2009 11:44:56 AM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56
he would be okay with illegal immigrants being treated in emergency rooms in some situations under his health care plan.,

They already are.

12 posted on 08/20/2009 11:45:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Lmo56

So Obama, American law is of no consequence to illegals. It only applies to American citizens .... thanks for making that clear ...


13 posted on 08/20/2009 11:45:37 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lmo56

“Decency” and “Moral Authority” from the F.O.C.A guy.

I’d laugh if it were funny!


14 posted on 08/20/2009 11:46:16 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("No road is too long with good company" - Turkish Proverb)
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To: Lmo56
Obama: "Basic Standard Of Decency" Allows Illegals To Be Treated

They're ALREADY "allowed to be treated".

It's not against the law anywhere to treat anybody. BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

15 posted on 08/20/2009 11:46:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: Lmo56

Let emergency room users pay a few. Most of them have credit cards, or spare cash. Let them pay on account, with at least a nominal amount to get seen.


16 posted on 08/20/2009 11:47:07 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: Lmo56

And he is not telling you it is at the expense of the rest of America.


17 posted on 08/20/2009 11:47:13 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Aria
Obama is taking us to economic suicide.

That's why he wants the end of life counseling services for everyone.

18 posted on 08/20/2009 11:47:29 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Extreme right-winged mob terrorist astroturfing bitter clinging racist birther evilmongering wingnut)
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To: Lmo56

It is the law. They can’t be turned away and their immigvration status can’t be checked.


19 posted on 08/20/2009 11:47:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Lmo56; wagglebee

Basic standard of decency would permit babies who are born alive in spite at abortion attempts to be treated TOO Mr. Obama. Not shut away in a closet to die gasping for breath for 8 hours.


20 posted on 08/20/2009 11:48:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: top 2 toe red

Every step of the way he legitimizes illegals... in doing so he legitimizes himself.


21 posted on 08/20/2009 11:48:38 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Lmo56

Hey Obango!...How about a little “Basic Standard of Decency” for the American taxpayer who foots the bill and has to stand in line in emergency?....


22 posted on 08/20/2009 11:48:40 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Aria
Obama is taking us to economic suicide.

It's a deliberate looting of the nation's wealth. It is neccessary to usher in the urgency for Socialist solutions.

Look at any of the Communist revolutions.

23 posted on 08/20/2009 11:49:52 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: Lmo56

The political lie/twist to this: he grants amnesty so there is no such thing as an illegal.....


24 posted on 08/20/2009 11:50:35 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Lmo56
Obama says we are our brother's keeper. Except Obama is keeping his brother in a lean-to shack in Africa.


25 posted on 08/20/2009 11:51:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: Lmo56

THEY ALREADY ARE BEING TREATED THERE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AS HAS EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!


26 posted on 08/20/2009 11:52:26 AM PDT by Republic
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To: kabar

It is the law. They can’t be turned away and their immigvration status can’t be checked.

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As CURRENTLY written - but Obama is saying he would treat them under the new healthcare bill ...

FINE - just write a provision into the new bill that immigration status WILL be checked AND ICE WILL be called when status is illegal ...

The bill will state that ICE will THEN give the illegal a one-way ticket to paradise and a bag of peanuts for the trip ...


27 posted on 08/20/2009 11:52:42 AM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

I agree. We have the responsibility to stabilize them then ship them out of the country.


28 posted on 08/20/2009 11:54:41 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Lmo56

I can’t renew my driver’s license until I prove that I owe no child support to anyone (never been married, never had kids) and I also cannot claim lottery ticket winnings without first settling any back due debt with the State.

How about checking for warrants on anyone going to a hospital on the public dime? They can still get free medical care. In jail.


29 posted on 08/20/2009 11:55:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: Lmo56

DEFINE....”Emergency”.....today emergency rooms are the doctors office for everyday ills for illegals, aren’t they?


30 posted on 08/20/2009 11:56:07 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Tell everyone, DEMS are the RACISTS...they created the KKK and Jim Crow Laws...to start)
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To: RC2

Does that include spending $100,000 to help them to deliver aa new American citizen anchor baby?

We need to address this in the Constitution with an amendment.


31 posted on 08/20/2009 11:56:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: Lmo56

Dream on. Nothing will change.


32 posted on 08/20/2009 11:59:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

The political lie/twist to this: he grants amnesty so there is no such thing as an illegal.....

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United States Constitution, Article II, Section II:

” ... he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States ...”

He can pardon the offense, but NOT grant amnesty - NOT in the Constitution ...


33 posted on 08/20/2009 12:00:21 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

How about BASIC STANDARDS OF THE CONSTITUTION have not been met by POTUS.

Okay, we can treat them, ICE takes them and forwards them back to their home country AFTER fingerprinting, photos, and DNA samples are taken.

THAT I can live with.

As I’ve said, I know it’s going to mean some Illegal Aliens DIE of illness or untreated disability when they get home, but that is not OUR problem. It’s their problem and the problem of their leadership. We do not owe anyone free medical care (0bamaCare either) just because they’re currently and/or illegally in the USofA.

Truman, Hoover, and Eisenhower DEPORTED Illegal Aliens AND Legal Immigrants to open up jobs for US CItizens. What is wrong with repeating that?

Nothing but a Liberal Socialist Marxist in the White House.


34 posted on 08/20/2009 12:00:57 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: Lmo56
basic standard of decency

Now there's a statement. But it's ok to murder babies and backdoor the elderly in America. And then marginalize the disabled, the mentally handicapped, etc. Then tell the veterans if they're depressed, well kill yourself, I have come to the conclusion that these Dems are bonafide schizophrenics

35 posted on 08/20/2009 12:01:37 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: a fool in paradise

I believe it’s the 17th Ammendment that they use against us. It basically addressed slaves and stated that they would receive citizenship. It says nothing about illegals but is used against us.


36 posted on 08/20/2009 12:01:39 PM PDT by RC2
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JUST as long as the hospital checks immigration status

How exactly would they do that?

37 posted on 08/20/2009 12:01:41 PM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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hell no. Take one half of whatever you expect to pay in a year for healthcare for an illegal and offer it as a reward for people turning them in. Take the other half and use it to pay shipping costs to get their butts back where they came from.
Whatever that number is,instead of paying it over and over,year after year,you pay it once. Mandatory jailtime if they re enter. Have to do something with those camps they’re setting up for right wingers.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 12:01:47 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: Lmo56

Treat them, then deport them.

No problem.

Oh, will that cause less of them to go to the emergency room unless it’s a real life/death emergency?

I fail to see the downside...


39 posted on 08/20/2009 12:02:20 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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It allows them to be treated, but not treated for free. Bill them. If they don't pay in 30 days bill their nation of origin. If the nation of origin doesn't pay slap a tariff on imports from that country to pay for the expenses related to taking care of their citizens.

Same policy would apply to incarceration. An illegal immigrant from LowerSlavobia commits a crime in the US, LowerSlavobia gets the bill.
40 posted on 08/20/2009 12:02:26 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Lmo56

like anchor-babies?


41 posted on 08/20/2009 12:04:50 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: GonzoGOP

You’ll never see a cent. Drive in California where insurance rates for cars is sky high. You get hit, and the guy tells you his name is Jose Gonzalez. Then try finding him later, lol. Guess who pays more insurance while all the Joses pay none, don’t even have driver’s licenses.


42 posted on 08/20/2009 12:05:39 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: RC2

I believe it’s the 17th Ammendment that they use against us.

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Amendment 17 - Senators Elected by Popular Vote.

The kids can stay - if they produce birth certificate, etc.

HOWEVER, illegal parents COULD NOT ...


43 posted on 08/20/2009 12:06:08 PM PDT by Lmo56
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I got NO problem with that - JUST as long as the hospital checks immigration status AND calls ICE if the person is found to be illegal ... ICE THEN deports their ass back to whatever banana republic they came from ...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is what just everyday people can’t understand. When we catch illegal aliens, we don’t deport them, we just release them back into the population.


44 posted on 08/20/2009 12:06:36 PM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lmo56

Treat everyone one and all, just take the cash out of the general fund.


45 posted on 08/20/2009 12:08:21 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Sloth

JUST as long as the hospital checks immigration status

How exactly would they do that?

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Ask for standards of proof - green card, passport, birth certificate, driver license, etc.

ALSO, check ICE database - ‘specially with GSW’s (gang-related) ...

Thats what they do in Prince William County, VA at the jail ...

EVERYONE charged with an offense is checked ...


46 posted on 08/20/2009 12:10:03 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: HighlyOpinionated
FDR also kicked out loads of illegals. The historically correct part of the Grapes of Wrath, Steinbeck, had the Joads going to California to replace the Mexicans who were leaving.

Yes Virginia, there was time when Democrats respected honest work.

47 posted on 08/20/2009 12:10:21 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Brookhaven

When we catch illegal aliens, we don’t deport them, we just release them back into the population.

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I catch and release all the time - WHEN I’M FISHING !!!


48 posted on 08/20/2009 12:11:53 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: 1000 silverlings
That's why I mentioned an import tariff. As a private citizen you can't collect. But a government can. Just tack it onto anything they send in. They don't have a choice in the matter. If they want to sell goods in the US we take a cut to pay for the costs of their citizens who are here illegally.

And lets say that some Saudis overstay their student visas and take out lower Manhattan. Well then Saudi Arabia pumps oil for free for the next few years. See how fast the Madrassas get closed.
49 posted on 08/20/2009 12:13:00 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

you can’t prove with reasonable certainty that an aborted fetus would grow up and vote dem. He can however with reasonable certainty assume those he treats for free and eventually makes citizens will vote his way.
sorry to be so cynical with life and death but i believe there are no free lunches and everything they wish to do is geared towards locking in a huge majority of voters for their party.


50 posted on 08/20/2009 12:13:57 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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