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'God's partners in matters of life and death'
Washington Jewish Week ^ | 8/19/09 | Adam Kredo

Posted on 08/20/2009 8:50:44 AM PDT by dervish

President Barack Obama needs some outside help pushing health care reform, and he's turning to rabbis to get it.

In a morning conference call with about 1000 rabbis from across the nation, Obama asked for aid: "I am going to need your help in accomplishing necessary reform," the President told the group, according to Rabbi Jack Moline, who tweeted his way through the phoner.

"We are God's partners in matters of life and death," Obama went on to say, according to Moline's real-time stream.

The 15-minute morning briefing was sponsored by the Religion Action Center of Reform Judaism, and included rabbis of all persuasions. Although the RAC hosts the call each year, participants had never before heard from a sitting president.

What stood out about the call is that Obama "is a master communicator," Moline, the rabbi of the Conservative Agudas Achim Congregation in Alexandria, said in an interview after the call ended.

"This was clearly a message that was tailored to us," and not merely a generic stump speech, he added.

Moline noted that in the lead up to the president's address, as the rabbis waited on hold, "there was a lot of chatter" among some participants who felt that the call should be seen as an opportunity "to instruct the President about [Presidential Medal of Freedom selection] Mary Robinson" and about the peace process in the Middle East.

"It was the subject of a good deal of conversation whether anyone was going to challenge him on that," in particular Rabbi Eric Yoffie, the president of the Union of Reform Judaism, whose has publicly chided Obama for his administration's stance on settlements.

When the issues failed to come up during the health care call, Moline pithily tweeted: "Yoffie praises President and does not raise any other issue. Good for him."

"Rabbi Yoffie stuck to the subject" of health care reform, Moline said in the interview, "I think it was a good thing."

Eyebrows were also raised by the choice of hold music that played to rabbis before the call began.

"First mistake," Moline tweeted, as he waited for the call to begin. "Music on hold is 'Deutschland uber Alles,' " a classical German anthem, the lyrics to which in part say, "Preserve and protect our Kaiser, our land."

(The music was chosen by the company carrying the conference call, not the White House or the RAC.)

A questioned submitted by Moline also was asked to the President, the rabbi proudly noted on Twitter, writing, "WOW! My question was asked of the President!!!!!"

The question, he later explained, was about how rabbis can address issue of health care reform "in a non partisan" way when they're behind the pulpit.

Obama responded by noting that the massive "human toll" of a broken health care system is a non partisan issue, and simply is unacceptable, Moline recalled.

The call, which was closed to the media, precedes another Obama phoner that is to take place at 5 p.m. this evening (Wednesday).


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Obama admits with his comment "We are God's partners in matters of life and death" that he believes he is entitled to usurp the role of the Creator.

God has no partners.

1 posted on 08/20/2009 8:50:44 AM PDT by dervish
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To: socialismisinsidious

what ego!


2 posted on 08/20/2009 8:51:29 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish

Obama considers himself the senior partner too.

When a dictator considers himself God’s partner in matters of life and death it should scare the crap out of people.


3 posted on 08/20/2009 8:52:55 AM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: dervish
What stood out about the call is that Obama "is a master communicator,"

I'm torn between laughing insanely and puking for the next hour.

4 posted on 08/20/2009 8:53:56 AM PDT by kromike
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To: dervish

So is the ACLU going to sue Obama for violating separation of church and state?


5 posted on 08/20/2009 8:54:07 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: dervish

Don’t preach to me, Zero. You haven’t found a church, didn’t participate in the National Day of Prayer, believe in abortion, mock ‘Middle America’ as “clinging to their guns and religion”......shall I go on?

You @ss.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 8:55:01 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: Aria

Yeah, and where’s Barry Lynn?


7 posted on 08/20/2009 8:55:09 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Can we trade in the clunker we have in the White House?)
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So he considers himself an equal? Bizarre.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 8:55:50 AM PDT by eureka! (Turn the Tea Party into our own ACORN when voting time comes. GOTV.)
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To: dervish

BE BELIEVES HE IS GOD’S PARTNER IN LIFE AND DEATH AND THAT IS WHY HE IS PRO CHOICE. THIS FINALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME. WOW THIS GUY IS REALLY SICK.


9 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:12 AM PDT by seawolf101
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To: Aria

I tremble for the man who has no fear of God.


10 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:38 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: dervish

Would God take a partner that encourages and endorses infanticide, genocide and abortion? I think not.


11 posted on 08/20/2009 8:57:06 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: All

barry, you ignorant slut....
Sorry for the language, but damn..does he even think about the drivel that comes out of his mouth?
God has no partners, no equals, only servants.
obama is so stupid, I think he’d order a Whopper if he went thru the drive thru at McDonald’s...


12 posted on 08/20/2009 8:57:16 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Maverick68

obama is so stupid, I think he’d order a Whopper if he went thru the drive thru at McDonald’s...
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LOL! Now, that’s funny right there!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)


13 posted on 08/20/2009 8:58:46 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: dervish

If Bush had said that .....


14 posted on 08/20/2009 8:58:57 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dervish

Appealing to morality to defend immorality. This is just another Alinsky rule— make the Jews and Christians abide by their morals while he and the Communist atheists do not.


15 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:05 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: All

And the scariest part of all: someone wrote it for him. They had time to think about it, time to rehearse the line, and STILL didn’t see anything wrong with it.
I stand by my earlier assertion that W is a smarter and MUCH wiser man...


16 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:19 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: GeronL

It’s only a matter of time, as it was with the insane Roman Emperor Caligula, before the Big Zero actually declares himself a god.

You didn’t want to be around disagreeing with anything that Caligula mandated.......

Militant


17 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:51 AM PDT by militant2 (I may not agree with everything you say, but......hell, I don't agree with anything you say!)
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To: WestwardHo
I tremble for the man who has no fear of God.

I agree. And he is, also, mocking God!

Galatians 6 vs. 7
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
18 posted on 08/20/2009 9:00:21 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Maverick68

Is there anyone here that is part of this organization ?

http://rac.org/feedback/

Or perhaps willing to find out what company was responsible for the conferance call?

I don’t know of any company that uses a song about the Kaiser in a foreign language as hold music.


19 posted on 08/20/2009 9:01:10 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: presently no screen name

Worse than that, we should all be aware of what the bible says about one who declares himself equal to God.


20 posted on 08/20/2009 9:01:53 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: dervish

” “First mistake,” Moline tweeted, as he waited for the call to begin. “Music on hold is ‘Deutschland uber Alles,’
“ a classical German anthem, the lyrics to which in part say,
“Preserve and protect our Kaiser, our land.”

This cannot possibly be true.
Hitler looooooved Duetschland uber Alles .
This has to be an urban myth ,
not even Barry would be this bizarre to play this for rabbis ,
especially with all the Hitler accusations being tossed around.


21 posted on 08/20/2009 9:02:14 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: dervish
Obama is one step away from from deifying himself. How many Caesars after Julius did the Roman Emperors become living gods?
22 posted on 08/20/2009 9:04:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: dervish

“Deutschland uber Alles” as the music? Kind of ironic considering Hussein was speaking to Rabbis.


23 posted on 08/20/2009 9:04:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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To: dervish

We are not God’s partner we are God’s servants. I guess given this new revelation by BO, we should now end our prayers with...in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit and Barack Obama.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 9:05:50 AM PDT by FlyingFish
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To: dervish
The phone music while on hold was 'Deutschland uber Alles'?

When you're ringing a group of Rabbis?

The 'partners with God' line is blasphemy. Playing the German national anthem to Rabbis while they wait to listen to a concept not obviously different from the Nazi program to remove unworthy lives - the program that led to the Holocaust - just piles on the 'Springtime for Hitler' ludicrosity.

25 posted on 08/20/2009 9:07:42 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: RummyChick

http://faithforhealth.org/join-the-call


26 posted on 08/20/2009 9:09:36 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish

This is what I resent most about with the left. the audacity of this man and his horrible party to suggest God should be invoked when they fly in the face of said God in every way.

Kick God out of school.
Get rid of God in government.
Ban His name in counseling for satanic abortion.
Tell kids there is no God with federal funding.
Tell Chaplains in the military they may not pray in his name.

These obscene rats deserve every disrespect I can afford them. I will not yield to people like this. I am actually glad people can see just how moronic and hate-filled these people are as they continually call evil good and good evil.


27 posted on 08/20/2009 9:09:56 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: seawolf101
That just about proves he's NOT a Chritian, in any way , shape or form. I don't know what he is, but he's no Christian.
28 posted on 08/20/2009 9:10:52 AM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: massgopguy
How many Caesars after Julius did the Roman Emperors become living gods?

Right away! Augustus became a Divus Caesar, or God. Ironic really, as the real God was born on his watch.

29 posted on 08/20/2009 9:11:20 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: dervish

We are God’s partners in matters of life and death,” Obama went on to say,

Always knew Obama was not a Christian.
(We) are not God’s partners.
We are the children of God.
Children...
Children are not partners with their parent.
What an ignorant, arrogant, toad Obama is..............


30 posted on 08/20/2009 9:12:58 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Proud to have made Communist Leader Obama's hit list at flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: dervish

[”We are God’s partners in matters of life and death,”]

I can envision God shaking his head at the colossal ignorance of this mere mortal’s opinion of himself.

Zero better stick to being partners with the used car business.


31 posted on 08/20/2009 9:15:21 AM PDT by RetSignman (Townhalls ..."We have seen the Patriots and they are us")
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To: dervish

It’s beyond ego; this is heresy.


32 posted on 08/20/2009 9:16:27 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dervish

Some would rather rule in hell than serve in Heaven


33 posted on 08/20/2009 9:16:48 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: SkyDancer

“If Bush had said that .....”

Difference being that Bush believed and feared G-d.

Everyone knows Obama merely gives the Creator of the Universie lip service.


34 posted on 08/20/2009 9:17:30 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dervish

different conference call.


35 posted on 08/20/2009 9:18:16 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: dervish
Wow! Barry Hussein kinda reminds me of ol’ Abe Lincoln. Orator that he is.

(extreme sarcasm)

36 posted on 08/20/2009 9:18:54 AM PDT by 4yearlurker
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To: dervish
"Eyebrows were also raised by the choice of hold music that played to rabbis before the call began.

"First mistake," Moline tweeted, as he waited for the call to begin. "Music on hold is 'Deutschland uber Alles,' " a classical German anthem, the lyrics to which in part say, "Preserve and protect our Kaiser, our land."

(The music was chosen by the company carrying the conference call, not the White House or the RAC.)

Behold, a sign!

Cordially,

37 posted on 08/20/2009 9:18:58 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: RummyChick

Yes I know. The link to the Rabbi’s call was already taken down. I thought it might be the same sponsor.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 9:20:15 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
So he was in front of Rabbis, Jews comprise 2% of the population which probably vote 70/30 anyways for Democrats and of that 2% , most of them live inn Ca, NY, NJ, MA and FL 4 of those states solid Democrat. Smart Zero, smart, what's next get the Albino lobby behind you. I think most of the G*dless arrogance comes from his wife, the minute I saw that woman I knew she was an evil self aggrandizing witch. Part of the Klan with a Tan
39 posted on 08/20/2009 9:20:30 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: dervish

Hussein’s rhetoric of being directly allied with God and doing God’s work pattern’s closely to the rhetoric that islamofacists declare before they strap bombs to themselves and blow up in crowded market places.

Chilling.


40 posted on 08/20/2009 9:22:00 AM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: militant2

I’d trade a horse in the senate for Kennedy or Kerry. Okay, with Kerry, it’s a even trade.


41 posted on 08/20/2009 9:22:24 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: dervish
Obama: "We are God's partners in matters of life and death"

Only Satan considers himself an equal to YHvH.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
42 posted on 08/20/2009 9:23:35 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: dervish
"We are God's partners in matters of life and death"

So, unless I'm mistaken, he has taken the sacred words of their religion and bastardized them into something eerily reminiscent of the Third Reich? And the rabbis are apparently mesmerized by the man? This is beyond sick and it is perversely ironic. I just do...not...get it.
43 posted on 08/20/2009 9:27:31 AM PDT by Since 2009-07-21
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To: Jewbacca

Yeah, listening to Rush and he’s going over that idea ....


44 posted on 08/20/2009 9:28:36 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dervish

Wow...”God’s partner?” The sad thing is I’ll bet he believes that. Unbelievable.


45 posted on 08/20/2009 9:29:13 AM PDT by henkster (The frog has noticed the increase in water temperature)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Wiki says that only the third stanza is the Anthem of Germany

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEdoLKknCi0

It would be interesting to know if the whole song was played on the conference call.

But even if only the third stanza...who does that in the US???

It makes no sense.
Had to be intentional and someone should investigate.

Or as another poster said..Maybe God is the one that put it on the track of music.


46 posted on 08/20/2009 9:29:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Wiki says that only the third stanza is the Anthem of Germany

If Obama knew he would have substituted "Tommorow Belongs To Me!"

47 posted on 08/20/2009 9:38:45 AM PDT by AU72
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To: dervish

“We are God’s partners in matters of life and death,”

If Obama said this he is WRONG from the word GO! God is NOT partner with Obama or anyone else who is for abortion. No way...no how!


48 posted on 08/20/2009 9:38:57 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: dervish

Is this part of the magic act, too? Hiding the cross. Not hiding the cross. Not being a Christian nation. Appealing to religious leaders—including Christian leaders. Communion in DC. Church. No church.

Playing “Deutschland uber Alles” to the rabbis on hold...and somehow the clerics’ tweets had ‘technical difficulties (per Politico’s commenters)

I am surprised the guy doesn’t combust at the mention of the Almighty. Also, I must admit the course of hurricane Bill heading toward New England & Nova Scotia is worth an ascerbic smile. Even the name is ‘Bill.’

http://hurricane.accuweather.com/hurricane/atlantic/basin.asp


49 posted on 08/20/2009 9:39:23 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: dervish

Obama went to the church of God Damn America for 20 years.

He is no Christian. He is a deceiver. One not of Christ but of an antiChrist.


50 posted on 08/20/2009 9:39:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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