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Karl Marx Is ‘Back in Vogue,’ NYT Book Reviewer Enthuses
Newsbusters ^ | August 19, 2009 - 17:35 | Scott Whitlock

Posted on 08/20/2009 3:33:21 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out

New York Times book critic Dwight Garner on Wednesday enthused over a new biography of Friedrich Engels, cooing that Marxism is “back in vogue” and adding that the founding communist comes across as a “jovial man of outsize appetites” in Tristram Hunt’s new biography “Marx’s General.”

Garner opened the review by insisting that decrying capitalism is now hip again: “Thanks to globalism’s discontents and the financial crisis that has spread across the planet, Karl Marx and his analysis of capitalism’s dark, wormy side are back in vogue.”

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1 posted on 08/20/2009 3:33:21 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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2 posted on 08/20/2009 3:39:26 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

NYT - Acute, Chronic, Recto-Crainal Inversion Syndrome.


3 posted on 08/20/2009 3:40:07 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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4 posted on 08/20/2009 3:42:34 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

How an ideology that invariably produces human misery and death on a massive scale can be “in vogue” is beyond me.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 3:42:53 AM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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6 posted on 08/20/2009 3:44:55 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

no foolin’

Capitalism is great.

We oughta try it sometime!


7 posted on 08/20/2009 3:45:58 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: LikeLight

I’ve never figured that out, either. Nowhere has Marxism ever worked, nowhere has it ever produced prosperity or peace, nowhere has it ever existed without death camps or mass extermination campaigns. I fail to see its charm.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 3:46:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
As a living eye-witness to the second half of the 20th century there is no way I will ever find Marx in vogue.

I hope it's not true that every generation has to learn this lesson first hand.

9 posted on 08/20/2009 3:49:49 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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To: livius
That is just because the right Marxist have not yet been in charge. Hillary and her gang know that they could do a much better job than Obama and his gang.


10 posted on 08/20/2009 4:07:42 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: livius
I’ve never figured that out, either. Nowhere has Marxism ever worked, nowhere has it ever produced prosperity or peace, nowhere has it ever existed without death camps or mass extermination campaigns. I fail to see its charm.

It's the same old serpent that's been around since the beginning; as Lincoln said.

Now, sirs, for the purpose of squaring things with this idea of ``don't care if slavery is voted up or voted down,'' for sustaining the Dred Scott decision, for holding that the Declaration of Independence did not mean anything at all, we have Judge Douglas giving his exposition of what the Declaration of Independence means, and we have him saying that the people of America are equal to the people of England. According to his construction, you Germans are not connected with it. Now I ask you in all soberness, if all these things, if indulged in, if ratified, if confirmed and endorsed, if taught to our children, and repeated to them, do not tend to rub out the sentiment of liberty in the country, and to transform this Government into a government of some other form. Those arguments that are made, that the inferior race are to be treated with as much allowance as they are capable of enjoying; that as much is to be done for them as their condition will allow. What are these arguments? They are the arguments that kings have made for enslaving the people in all ages of the world. You will find that all the arguments in favor of king-craft were of this class; they always bestrode the necks of the people, not that they wanted to do it, but because the people were better off for being ridden. That is their argument, and this argument of the Judge is the same old serpent that says you work and I eat, you toil and I will enjoy the fruits of it. Turn in whatever way you will---whether it come from the mouth of a King, an excuse for enslaving the people of his country, or from the mouth of men of one race as a reason for enslaving the men of another race, it is all the same old serpent,

11 posted on 08/20/2009 4:17:44 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: LikeLight

It’s only “in vogue” with the people who have benefited from capitalism and the freedom to ignore history. It is made up of those who believe they would be in charge in such a society, and those who believe they would get all their neighbors’ stuff.

A friend of mine is from the former East Germany. He went off on a guy one night who decided to wax poetic about how wonderful socialism would be when he found out where my friend was from.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 4:22:47 AM PDT by kenth
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To: LikeLight
Agree, but isn't this how these movements start? By re-humanizing evil via what used to be (decades and decades ago) a reputable organization. We all should be very vigilant about “little” stories like this as the real goal of Ms. Garner is to make Marxism palatable again...just like the early 1900’s. We know that outcome.
13 posted on 08/20/2009 4:23:21 AM PDT by mek1959
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To: Vaquero

They really need to put Stalin’s head in that graphic - the first guy killed no one, the second guy got a few after he returned to Russia, the third guy murdered 60 million, Stalin murdered 30 million, and Hussein? Will he be a philosopher or a mass murderer?


14 posted on 08/20/2009 4:33:38 AM PDT by PIF
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
New York Times book critic Dwight Garner on Wednesday enthused over a new biography of Friedrich Engels, cooing that Marxism is “back in vogue”

I wonder if this idiot realizes that, under socialism, the first ones into the chambers are the 'critics'.

15 posted on 08/20/2009 4:36:47 AM PDT by MamaTexan (If you think calling me a 'birther' will stop me from defending the Constitution........think again!)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Maybe "the Messiah" can take his advice for agricultural policy from this: Ukrainian Famine Film -- warning 54.55 min. long
16 posted on 08/20/2009 4:44:17 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
"It is not always clear whether Engels's misrepresentations (in Conditions of the Working Class in England) are deliberate deception of the reader or self-deception. But sometimes the deceit is clearly intentional. He used evidence of bad conditions unearthed by the Factories enquiry Commission of 1833 without telling readers that Lord Althorp's Factory Act of 1833 had been passed, and had long been in operation, precisely to eliminate the conditions the report described.

He used the same deception in handling of one of his main sources, Dr. J. P. Kay's Physical and Moral Conditions of the Working Classes Employed in the Cotton Manufacture in Manchester (1832) which had helped to produce fundamental reforms in local government sanitation; Engels does not mention them.

He misinterpreted the criminal statistics, or ignored them when they did not support his thesis. Indeed he constantly and knowingly suppresses facts that contradict his argument or explain away a particular 'iniquity' he is seeking to expose."

...In one section alone, Chapter Seven, 'The Proletariat', falsehoods, including errors of fact and transcription, occur on pages 152, 155, 157, 159, 160, 163, 165, 167, 168, 170, 172, 174, 178, 179, 182, 185, 186, 188, 189, 190, 191, 194 and 203."

Intellectuals by Paul Johnson

17 posted on 08/20/2009 5:15:23 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: LikeLight

I think they say that cockroaches are the only thing that will remain alive after a nuclear attack. Coincidence?


18 posted on 08/20/2009 5:20:31 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: PIF
the ones you said were responsible for little or no deaths are responsible for instigating the death of 10’s of thousands to millions. I can't cut them slack.

we will see where zer0bama goes...I see him more of a national socialist/fascist than pure Marxist...time will tell. But I hope his time is 4 years or less....I pray for his impeachment daily.

19 posted on 08/20/2009 5:22:44 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

The only thing in vogue about Karl Marx is to see what the jOker is going to do next.


20 posted on 08/20/2009 5:38:38 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Idiotcracy has arrived 400 years early.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

The rehabilitation of Karl Marx has begun.

Next, the rehabilitation of the misunderstood genius that was Pol Pot.

sarc//


21 posted on 08/20/2009 5:44:27 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Vaquero

Responsible is not the same as ordering. Marx may be responsible, but he was not himself a mass muder. Nor was Lenin - his NKVD killed many, but it was not until Stalin took over that the mass puges in Russia and Europe took place. Be it as it may, the point is which will Hussein be?

Hussein is a Maoist. Never a fascist- fascist do not hire communists (Van Jones) to work with them. The two variations are mortal ememies.


22 posted on 08/20/2009 6:09:49 AM PDT by PIF
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To: nathanbedford

IMHO, Bill and Hillary are ambitious crooks, not Marxists. Far less dangerous...


23 posted on 08/20/2009 6:15:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Noooo. Pol Pot was too much a minor player — Joe Stalin and Mao Tse-Tsung will be the next up.

Perhaps Trotski.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 6:18:59 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Little Ray

Third Way crooks, however.


25 posted on 08/20/2009 6:19:46 AM PDT by PIF
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Where is Joe McCarthy when you really need him????


26 posted on 08/20/2009 6:21:36 AM PDT by RatRipper (I HATE tax & spend politicians)
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To: ALPAPilot

Excellent quote! Thanks!


27 posted on 08/20/2009 6:28:59 AM PDT by livius
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To: Little Ray
I am inclined generally to agree with you. Bill is a sociopath, a narcissist, who will enthusiastically believe anything that will advance his own career. That is why he could support trade with Mexico and ultimately sign a welfare reform bill.

Hillary, on the other hand, was a disciple of Saul Alinsky as was Obama. Interestingly, she declined the opportunity to go with his organization and Obama accepted. If one considers Hillary's preposterous book, It Takes a Village, which really ought to have been titled, It Takes a Federal Entitlement, one can see the same tendencies in Hillary as are evident in Obama.

My thesis on the commitment to Marxism for people like Obama is perhaps best described by Whittaker Chambers in his forward to his classic, Witness, in which he describes the religious fervor of the communist. I like to embroider this insight with the observation that Marxism offers the most effective platform for the operation of the ego to run the world. That is the essence of communism and what Saul Alinsky, and The Frankfurt School, are fashioned to enable.

It is not mere coincidence that sociopaths and narcissists are drawn to the ideology. How big an ego does Hillary have?


28 posted on 08/20/2009 6:40:26 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: LikeLight
How an ideology that invariably produces human misery and death on a massive scale can be “in vogue” is beyond me.

The elites are bored. They stir the pot by trying to incite people at the bottom to fight the middle class - it makes their "elite" position all the more elite.

29 posted on 08/20/2009 6:58:49 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: LikeLight
One of the New York Times writers won a Pulitzer year ago for his lying coverage of the Russian collectives. He knew they were slaughtering and starving to death millions of Russians - and he covered for the killers BECAUSE he backed Marxism.

His "prize" was a disgraceful moment in the history of journalism - and many - for years - felt the prize should be withdrawn.

The New York Times sucks more because a well turned lie is not as good as a poorly written truth.

30 posted on 08/20/2009 7:07:03 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“but as long as the right people are running it/they have good intentions” paraphrasing the agrument made by a liberal freind of mine


31 posted on 08/20/2009 7:11:26 AM PDT by isom35
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To: GOPJ

Yeah, I’ve heard about that horrific NYT episode. Accomplices to mass murder.


32 posted on 08/20/2009 7:14:49 AM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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Yeah, I’ve heard about that horrific NYT episode. Accomplices to mass murder.

Hundreds of thousand of extra people died because that "journalist" covered for the killers. And has the New York Times apologized yet? Nope.

They need to write a Mea culpa and fall on their knees and beg for forgiveness. They don't need to be pushing "Marxism is cool" shit. Effing murderers.

33 posted on 08/20/2009 7:24:10 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: livius
I’ve never figured that out, either. Nowhere has Marxism ever worked, nowhere has it ever produced prosperity or peace, nowhere has it ever existed without death camps or mass extermination campaigns. I fail to see its charm.

The "charm" for the New York Times liberals is they see themselves at the top - in elite Marxist power positions.

While it might be a horror to be at the bottom of a totalitarian society ( ask Jews who saw their children ripped apart) - to be at the top is an indulgence of unbelievable evil. That's who the boys at the "we suck more" paper must think they'd wind up. Sickening.

34 posted on 08/20/2009 8:06:29 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: GOPJ
It was Walter Duranty. And the NYT suspected he was lying and let him get away with it. Sort of like CNN reporting from Iraq.

What is so awful about Duranty is that Times top brass suspected that Duranty was writing Stalinist propaganda, but did nothing. In her exposé "Stalin's Apologist: Walter Duranty, the New York Times's man in Moscow," S.J. Taylor makes it clear that Carr Van Anda, the managing editor, Frederick T. Birchall, an assistant managing editor, and Edwin L. James, the later managing editor, were troubled with Duranty's Moscow reporting but did nothing about it. Birchall recommended that Duranty be replaced but, says Taylor, "the recommendation fell by the wayside."

Walter Duranty

35 posted on 08/20/2009 9:08:31 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

The first photo accurately describes the American electorate especially the younger voters.

Yes Marx is back in vogue. Look at the White House and the Congress.


36 posted on 08/20/2009 9:17:08 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Madame Dufarge

Looks like Dwight Garner is Walter Duranty’s spirtual son... two men awed by a horrible form of government/slavery.


37 posted on 08/20/2009 2:36:05 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Very interesting.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 3:55:40 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Communist Manifesto of 1848: “the commercial crises that by their periodical return put on trial, each time more threateningly, the ­existence of the entire bourgeois ­society”.

The present credit catastrophe was caused by ­reckless lending and spending. Solution by present day Marxists?

Urge the banks to lend even more. Marx again:

“That is to say, by paving the way for more extensive and more destructive crises, and by diminishing the means whereby crises are prevented.”

They are simply paving the way for the end game: a Communist state created in an advanced industrial society

39 posted on 09/19/2009 10:43:50 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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“the end game: a Communist state created in an advanced industrial society”

Right, absolutely. But to whom does “communism” and “marxism” have any relevance now? A few American leftists who have never lived it maybe? Maybe not even them?

All I see are standard wars between nations, but now those wars are sanitized by being about some “ideology”. Use of these “ideology” fronts is a method of gaining support inside the enemy nation. Leftism is just tribal now. You can beat a leftist down on any issue, and they just pop up another like a whackamole, because it’s not about the issues, it’s about the tribe.

And now Russia is able to stand back, act as if it has nothing to do with it, while America tears itself apart with the tribal idiomatic self-destructive “politics” the KGB dreamed up.


40 posted on 09/19/2009 11:02:48 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Actually in many respects Russia and eatern Europe having emerged from the nightmare of the secular marxists are far more conservative both politically and economically than the West - western Europe and the US.

No I still see the strife in terms of ideologies: Islam and secular corporate capitalism on one hand (states and borders are not important) and ths sanctity of the state and values on the other.


41 posted on 09/19/2009 2:49:47 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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