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‘Non-discovery’ of space-time ripples opens door to birth of the Universe
The Times ^ | 8/20/2009 | Mark Henderson

Posted on 08/19/2009 7:20:29 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Scientists have peered further back in time than ever before using instruments designed to search for a phenomenon predicted by Albert Einstein almost a century ago but not yet proven to exist.

An American observatory hunting for ripples in space and time called gravitational waves has produced its most significant results yet, despite not having directly detected any.


Tycho's Supernova

The “non-discovery” offers insights into the state of the Universe just 60 seconds into its existence. Previous research has been unable to look back in time further than about 380,000 years after the big bang.

The new window on the dawn of time has been opened by the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), a network of three detectors that have been seeking evidence of gravitational waves since 2005.

These waves, which are believed to stretch and squeeze space and time as they pass, were predicted by Einstein in his theory of relativity. Violent events, such as a supernova explosion or the collision of two black holes, should make the biggest and most detectable waves. While their existence is accepted by astrophysicists, they have never been directly detected. LIGO has not yet found any gravitational waves either, and this has important implications for astrophysics and cosmology.

Certain theoretical models of what happened in the first moments of the cosmos predict that gravitational waves should be visible in LIGO’s data. As none have been detected, the “non-findings” narrow down possible explanations for the growth of the Universe.

The research, which is published in the journal Nature , also offers proof that gravitational-wave observatories will open up new horizons for astronomy, allowing scientists to examine aspects of the cosmos that have previously been hidden from view, such as supernovas and black holes. The first 380,000 years after the big

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: anisotropy; astronomy; bigbang; cosmology; inflation; physics; science; scientism; space; stringtheory
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1 posted on 08/19/2009 7:20:29 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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Must be how the RATS are justifying health care...


2 posted on 08/19/2009 7:22:18 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

and global warming.


3 posted on 08/19/2009 7:26:01 PM PDT by taxtruth (WE CAN'T AFFORD UNCLE SAMMY ANYMORE!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Ok, I am a moron.

How in the hell do they peer back in time???

Totally amazed at our knowledge and abilities. Still no cure for cancer.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 7:27:33 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine

See the sun in the sky? You’re seeing it how it was 8 minutes ago. Now extrapolate that out to something like the Hubble, peering into the far reaches of the universe...


5 posted on 08/19/2009 7:30:25 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: bruinbirdman

THIS could be the forum to discuss the logical proof for God’s existence!


6 posted on 08/19/2009 7:31:28 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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"“Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.”" - Sherlock Holmes
7 posted on 08/19/2009 7:32:41 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: autumnraine
They are only ‘figuratively’ looking back in time. They are analyzing information that would only be reaching the earth after x amount of time, even though it is information generated millionsnof years ago. Remember, even light, the fastest thing we know, only travels at about 385,000 miles per second (I ting - I'm digging back in time in my own memory of high school history class), so with the known universe at least billions of miles across,even light doesn't cross it instantaneously - and other things, like gravity waves, travel a lot slower than the speed of light!
8 posted on 08/19/2009 7:32:55 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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Approximately 186,000 miles/second :-)
9 posted on 08/19/2009 7:35:42 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Kay Ludlow

386,000 per/sec.


10 posted on 08/19/2009 7:38:10 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: Kay Ludlow

You are right on. If you reverse the situation, a being on another planet could be pointing one of these at the earth and just now be seeing the time of Christ walking the earth or Moses, or even further back to the birth of Joan Rivers.


11 posted on 08/19/2009 7:38:10 PM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

386,000 miles/per/sec!!!


12 posted on 08/19/2009 7:39:35 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: autumnraine

When you look at a star in the sky you may be “seeing” what that star looked like millions of years ago if that star happens to be millions of light-years from earth. Similarly, these scientists are “looking” in areas of the sky (the universe) thought to be furthest from earth. Theat’s how they “peer back in time”.

What I’ve always wondered is, if scientists could “peer back in time” to one nanosecond into the existence of the universe and discovered a mirrored surface which was perfectly aligned toward the scientists, what would that mirror be reflecting?


13 posted on 08/19/2009 7:40:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Nope. Approximately 186,000 miles/second in a vacuum.


14 posted on 08/19/2009 7:41:17 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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I’m sorry you are right 186,000 per/sec :(


15 posted on 08/19/2009 7:42:32 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: bruinbirdman

The big bang idea is bad physics and bad theology rolled into a package.


16 posted on 08/19/2009 7:44:40 PM PDT by wendy1946
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Aha... Now we can work on star drive technology to surf the grav waves.

Kowabunga dude.


17 posted on 08/19/2009 7:46:40 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: bruinbirdman
A non discovery making headlines. :)

18 posted on 08/19/2009 7:47:46 PM PDT by allmost
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To: bruinbirdman

I SEE YOU..

19 posted on 08/19/2009 7:49:54 PM PDT by seawolf101
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
Approximately 186,000 miles/second :-)

Or about 300,000 kilometers/second.

Or, generally more usefully, about 3X10^8 meters/second. ;-)

20 posted on 08/19/2009 7:50:43 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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