Posted on 08/19/2009 8:59:27 AM PDT by Joiseydude
PATERSON, N.J. — Curfews might not be just for kids anymore in one northern New Jersey city.
Seeking to curb violence after a spate of deadly summer shootings, Paterson officials are considering an unusual ordinance that would prevent people of all ages from gathering outside in public late at night.
The measure could be the nation's first citywide, non-emergency curfew to include adults, several experts said.
"We're trying to think outside the box," said Mayor Jose Torres (DEMOCRAT). "This was triggered predominantly by fear among city residents over the shootings that have been occurring this summer."
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Hey - I have a radical idea:
How about enforcing the laws already on the books? Folks disturb the peace, or cause much worse trouble- lock ‘em up.
In Houston last year, the Chief of police imposed martial law too by extending our city’s post hurricane curfew (that is only a power held by the mayor who did NOT issue the extension although it was enforced by the police).
Why not declare Marshall Law? You’re just about there.
Marshall Law? Aren’t all of the government management at the state level in jail due to the corruption round-up they did recently?
There’s no money in locking people up. It costs them money.
They want to write revenue tickets on non-violent citizens.
Those “adults” wouldn’t be predominantly between 18 and 21, would they?
Once again, the Dem’s are the ones depriving the People of their liberty
Just like Baghdad.
Can you spell “UNCONSTITUTIONAL”???
And there I thought martial law had to be involved. What was that thingy about a right to “peaceably assemble”? Oh, yeah. First Amendment. Fugeddaboudit.
It provides officers with “probable cause” to stop adults.
That would be "martial" law, as in "martial arts".
Let’s see a curfew for adults combined with the ongoing war on tobacco in the NYC/NJ area.
So if I fly in from St. Louis and, in my unsophisticated, midwestern, non-progressive, unenlightened ignorance, fire up a tasty Maduro after midnight, do I get the electric chair?
Minoritys?
Were you close to the bombings?
Yet another right suspended in the Peoples' Democracy of New Jersey, but the "right" to health care seems to be surviving.
Once again, law abiding citizens are having their liberties trampled on because of a very small percentage of hoodlums that keep causing the same trouble over and over while flipping the bird at the judical system.
This isn’t thinking outside the box, it’s outside the Constitution !
Of course not! All this crime is coming from white suburban middle income neighborhoods with clean manicured lawns.
I see Steve and Kathy Burkowitz type people standing out in there driveway in front of their two-car garage at 3am with their pants around their knees drinking 40oz all the time.
I miss the 40’s and 50’s. Guess we really didn’t know what we had. Well......maybe we knew but we didn’t know it would all come to this.
Since then, the onset of the Socialist takeover, there has been a great overemphasis on parents not having any control over their youths who still live under your roof. Even with 18-to 21-year-olds whose parents support them at college, the parents have absolutely nothing to say about the youth's behavior; cannot know if they have a health crisis, and will not be notified of their grades, drinking, behavior or academic problems in schools without the 18-year-old's permission.
Yet the brain does not reach full maturity until between 20 and 30 years of age.
The "18" trend has empowered government schools to think they can teach even younger children of any age about sexual activities, and distribute birth control devices and even help young girls have abortions without their parents' knowledge.
Socialism is about control of the means of production. Nothing you have or that you produce, including children, is yours.
I wonder if people ever think about why the military is so strict with recruits? When I went to boot camp, they tore you down and rebuilt you. You learned responsibility because they forced you into it. I saw many street wise kids totally change under military rule. Kids who thought they were tough were totally changed. I wouldn’t want to raise kids today.
< /sarcasm >
It depends on who’s issuing the order...if the sheriff then its Marshall Law. ;)
LOL, that’s radical; maybe they should do it.
Unconstitutional.
probably! My son almost got canned from his (union) construction job in NYC for smoking in an ‘outdoor’ restricted area, total crap.
LOL -- I think you're joking; but in case you're not, and for the benefit of any other miserable nitpicking grammar police besides myself on the thread:
This article from the web site usconstitution.net says:
Note: please note the spelling of "martial law." A common mistake is to spell it as "marshal law" or "marshall law." A "marshal" is a law enforcement officer of, for example, the U.S. Marshal Service. There is such a thing as a marshal, but no such thing as marshal law.
;) I’ll never tell. ;)
During the three years when I was out on the street every Friday with the DC Chapter in front of Walter Reed, protecting the gates from anti-war protesters, we were in an essentially black neighborhood. One evening a nice black man in his early 30s stopped to try to reason with me about the so-called racism of more blacks dying in battle than whites, etc. Not only was this misconception untrue during Vietnam, it is completely untrue today, when the rate of death of blacks in combat is a lower percentage in proportion to their proportion of population than for whites or hispanics, because more blacks are lifers and hence are not on the front lines.
In explaining those recent DOD stats to him, I also pointed out that a youth 18-25 has a greater chance of being shot in any major American city than in combat in Iraq. I also pointed out (nicely -- this was mutually respectful exchange of ideas) that if a young man had no dad or a weak family and would be tempted to get into trouble in the streets, wouldn't he be better off risking death with honor after having been "raised" by a military drill sergeant to a place of self-respect and honor, surrounded by loyal "brothers", than to die in the streets in a bad drug deal? After all, he stood a great chance of surviving, getting an education afterwards, and having that self-esteem and the band of brothers for life.
He had no answer for me. I made him think.
That’s exactly what I saw in boot camp. We had twoblackkids in the company. They were tough but with bad attitudes. They felt that everyone was against them, they were being picked on, nobody liked them, etc, etc. Actually, nobody was concerned about them unless they screwed up, but the concern went equally across the board if anyone screwed up. 3/4 of the way through boot camp, they got it. Turned out to be two of the best sailors in the company.
Goodness, I hope so. Otherwise people are going to think I'm a fan of the department store (in reverse).
Why a curfew and not midnight basketball?
Why a curfew and not midnight basketball?
When I moved to Mobile in 1995, one of the first bunper stickers I saw was:
If I Had Known This Was Going To Happen I'd Have Picked My Own Cotton.
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