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EPA Says It Will Toss Artifacts from Historic 18th Century Fort into a Landfill
CNSNews.com ^ | 8/18/09 | Adam Brickley

Posted on 08/18/2009 10:33:27 AM PDT by Nachum

(CNSNews.com) – Less than a week after the Environmental Protection Agency restarted a controversial dredging project on the Hudson River, dredgers operated by the General Electric Company dislodged wooden beams that are the last remnants of one of the largest British forts in the American colonies.

The EPA now says that the beams are contaminated with potential carcinogens known as PCBs and therefore must be buried in a landfill

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agency; americanhistory; artifacts; bhoepa; environmental; godsgravesglyphs; hudsonriver; pcb; protection

1 posted on 08/18/2009 10:33:27 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 08/18/2009 10:33:53 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

PCB’s were widely used for many applications, especially as dielectric fluids in transformers and capacitors and coolants.

Everyone knows these were widely used the the British occupying forces in the 1800’s.


3 posted on 08/18/2009 10:36:44 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Nachum
The EPA now says that the beams are contaminated with potential carcinogens known as PCBs and therefore must be buried in a landfill

Um, wouldn't it be sufficient just to warn people not to eat them. I doubt the PCB's are so volatile they're going to evaporate from some kind of exhibit and kill people looking from 10 feet away. If they were that volatile, they'd all have evaporated by now anyway.

4 posted on 08/18/2009 10:39:18 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Nachum

Good thing the EPA wasn’t around when King Tut’s Tomb was discovered. They might have let us decontaminate the gold and pottery piece, but the corpse would have given off unhealthy dust which would have been ordered into the landfill. < / sarcasm >


5 posted on 08/18/2009 10:39:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: edcoil
PCB’s were widely used for many applications, especially as dielectric fluids in transformers and capacitors and coolants. Everyone knows these were widely used the the British occupying forces in the 1800’s.

The EPA is probably claiming they got contaminated in place by some facility built above them or from river water or something.

6 posted on 08/18/2009 10:40:14 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Nachum
1) They have been lying there contaminated in the open for a very long time
2) They are sorry they did not leave them lying there contaminated in the open for more years
3) But now that they are not lying there contaminated in the open and are under control...they must be gotten rid of because they are contaminated


This is not a logical chain of thought.
7 posted on 08/18/2009 10:40:24 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Nachum
I was talking recently to an old friend who I worked with at Magma Copper many years ago. The conversation came around to hazardous waste sites and toxic industrial materials. We mutually we must have died a horrible death many years ago. The EPA tells us so.
8 posted on 08/18/2009 10:44:05 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Arkinsaw

Correct. Not logical. The EPA exists simply to create reasons for the EPA to exist.


9 posted on 08/18/2009 10:44:52 AM PDT by dadgum (Security System. Dog. 12 gauge. 3" magnum turkey loads. Shovel.)
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To: Nachum

PCB’s are not radio active. The pilings could be removed and preserved with no hazard to the public or enviroment.

The EPA is getting as bad as the taliban.


10 posted on 08/18/2009 10:47:37 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Nachum

This is the same EPA that goes into a panic when a mercury thermometer breaks.

How did all of us from 1965 back survive playing with the stuff? Maybe is was because the mercury we played with was not dangerous...the special lab type that became gaseous when heated was.


11 posted on 08/18/2009 10:51:22 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Nachum

Wow, if this isn’t emblematic of 0’s philosophical bent...
Rip up the underpinnings and history of America and toss it all in the landfill.


12 posted on 08/18/2009 10:51:35 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: SunkenCiv

Would this be of interest to your ping list?


13 posted on 08/18/2009 10:54:15 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Pharmboy

Ping


14 posted on 08/18/2009 10:58:13 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: Nachum
The EPA now says that the beams are contaminated with potential carcinogens known as PCBs and therefore must be buried in a landfill

In case you were wondering, yes, it was pointed out years ago that the PCBs weren't posing any health risk by sitting buried at the bottom of the Hudson, so there was no reason to dredge them up. But in the politics of 25 years ago, it was REALLY important to accuse GE of contaminating the . . . solar system. So, to prevent what New York State's Communist pressure groups such as NYPIRG claimed was a health risk, the EPA eventually forced GE to dredge the river at great expense, to dig up this historic site—and to cause what they say is a health risk.

The consistency in the actions taken here does not appear to be avoiding risks to anyone's health. That would imply that the real priority is something else. Any guesses as to what it might be?

15 posted on 08/18/2009 11:02:26 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Nachum

Every archealogical dig in the world is now trash according to the EPA?

This is insanity!


16 posted on 08/18/2009 11:02:41 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: dangerdoc
"The EPA is getting as bad as the taliban."

The EPA long ago outlived any useful purpose it may have had.
Now it's purpose is to be an anti business, anti American impediment to economic and scientific progress.

17 posted on 08/18/2009 11:10:52 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: Nachum

The EPA is more toxic than any PCB.


18 posted on 08/18/2009 11:12:26 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Nachum

Doesn’t Obama have some measurable PCBs in his body too? Just askin’


19 posted on 08/18/2009 11:13:46 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Nachum

Can we keep the artifacts, and dump the EPA in a landfill?


20 posted on 08/18/2009 11:15:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Nachum

If it is defined as waste, it is under the authority of the EPA, and they have to bury it. If someone in authority had it declared “useful material”, it would not be under the authority of the EPA, and it would not have to be buried.

The gubberment is funny about that.


21 posted on 08/18/2009 11:18:14 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Nachum

Amazing how fast they can get lab results back when they want to...they did send samples to the lab, right?


22 posted on 08/18/2009 11:23:36 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: DH

The same EPA that pushes the flourescent lights that contain mercury that can be inhaled when the lights get broken...


23 posted on 08/18/2009 11:29:31 AM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: Trod Upon
Wow, if this isn’t emblematic of 0’s philosophical bent... Rip up the underpinnings and history of America and toss it all in the landfill.

Needed repeating.

24 posted on 08/18/2009 11:54:05 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Nachum

Why do I have the feeling that if these were timbers from an old Colonial slave ship, all of the “contamination” stuff would be ignored and they’d be on their way to the Smithsonian?


25 posted on 08/18/2009 12:19:17 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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Archaeological outrage by EcoNazis PING!

Historic "timbers 'covered with PCB oil'" -- so they must go in a landfill.

Those idiots at EPA never heard of detergents? Dispose of what is washed off -- not the artifacts!!!

Bureaucratic IDIOTS!!!

26 posted on 08/18/2009 8:32:07 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; TXnMA

Thanks! Will add, but probably not ping.

CREWS ACCIDENTALLY REMOVE PART OF NY’S OLDEST FORT
(Environmentalism Destroys)
New York Post | August 14, 2009
Posted on 08/14/2009 7:55:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2316471/posts


27 posted on 08/19/2009 4:38:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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28 posted on 08/19/2009 4:38:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Nachum

EPA- a bunch of hysterical dimwits, who make people use crappy fuel in their cars, which hurts poor people (raises food prices) and seeps into water supplies.


29 posted on 08/19/2009 7:45:47 PM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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