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Issa wants answers from White House on e-mails
The Hill ^ | August 17, 2009 | Eric Zimmermann

Posted on 08/17/2009 1:28:38 PM PDT by jazusamo

The ranking Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee wants more answers from the White House about its e-mail policies.

In a letter to White House counsel Greg Craig, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) on Monday raised questions about the White House's request for supporters to forward “fishy claims” about healthcare.

Issa says such a request could have a “chilling” effect on free speech and asked the president to ensure that the e-mails will be stored properly but not used for political purposes.

“To help ease these concerns, please tell us what actions take place or have been discussed in regard to e-mails deemed ‘fishy’ and what safeguards the White House has put in place to insure [sic] no retributive steps are taken against those who express dissent," Issa wrote.

Earlier on Monday the White House announced it was changing its e-mail policies to ensure that advocacy groups could not sign people up to White House e-mail lists without the recipients' permission. It also disabled the e-mail account that had caused the problem, but Issa still wants answers about the stored e-mails it had already received.

Some conservatives have suggested the White House was trying to sign people up for e-mails against their will, or was trying to compile an “enemies list.” Those claims have been vehemently denied by the White House.

In his letter, Issa cited reports that citizens who had not contacted the White House had nevertheless received a healthcare-related e-mail from senior adviser David Axelrod.

“Based on reports of Americans who received this e-mail without having contacted the White House, I am concerned about the possibility that political e-mail address lists are being used for official purposes,” Issa wrote.

The White House on Monday did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Issa's letter.

The e-mail back-and-forth began after a tense exchange between White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and Fox News Channel's senior White House correspondent, Major Garrett.

Garrett challenged Gibbs after the reporter heard from a number of Fox viewers who received Axelrod's e-mail without ever signing up for the White House e-mail list.

At the time, Gibbs pushed back, insisting that there had been no illegal coordination or e-mail sharing between Organizing for America — Obama's political wing at the Democratic National Committee (DNC) — and the White House.

Gibbs asked to see the e-mails Garrett had received, sparking a heated exchange between them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: emails; issa; obama; whitehouse
Hopefully Rep. Darrell Issa keeps the pressure on.
1 posted on 08/17/2009 1:28:39 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: All
Please bump the Freepathon and donate if you haven’t done so!

2 posted on 08/17/2009 1:30:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

So did the Obama Administration hire Craig Livingstone as Chief Technology Officer?


3 posted on 08/17/2009 1:31:39 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

Kinds sounds like it, doesn’t it?


4 posted on 08/17/2009 1:35:19 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Time for a special prosecutor.


5 posted on 08/17/2009 1:53:28 PM PDT by rod1
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To: jazusamo

I’m sure the hard drives that the data was stored on will be missing soon.


6 posted on 08/17/2009 2:06:31 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: unixfox

Yep, maybe already are, accidentally erased.


7 posted on 08/17/2009 2:09:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I hear the sites been shut down so I guess there is no explanation needed—just like when people start disappearing off the streets.


8 posted on 08/17/2009 2:14:48 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: jazusamo

It would be good to get some of these e mails and post them here and analyze them for truthfulness.


9 posted on 08/17/2009 2:18:40 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: jazusamo

Rep. Issa’s letter is the reason why the website was shut down. It is the same logic as motivated the Pentagon to cancel the activation orders of the Army Reserve major who was challenging President Obama’s authority as commander in cheif because it was not established that he is a “natural-born” citizen. When in a legal bind, take an action, even if it is temporarily embarassing, that makes the issue go away. The MSM will be more than willing to aid and abet in the process.

Cancel the orders (and, in retaliation, get the major fired from his defense contractor job), close down the website (archive the data according to the law) and fugetaboutit.

Very Chicago. (Well, except for the part about the offending party’s body NOT turning up riddled with bullets on the Lake Michigan shoreline . Okay, I’m stereotyping. They’ve actually gotten much better at disposing of bodies since then.)


10 posted on 08/17/2009 2:22:48 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: jazusamo

I have seen the statute posted here that said fishy emails is illegal. Can someone please post if?


11 posted on 08/17/2009 2:26:48 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Evil-Mongering Angry Mobster)
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To: jazusamo

12 posted on 08/17/2009 2:26:56 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: jazusamo
The e-mail back-and-forth began after a tense exchange between White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and Fox News Channel's senior White House correspondent, Major Garrett. Garrett challenged Gibbs after the reporter heard from a number of Fox viewers who received Axelrod's e-mail without ever signing up for the White House e-mail list. At the time, Gibbs pushed back, insisting that there had been no illegal coordination or e-mail sharing between Organizing for America — Obama's political wing at the Democratic National Committee (DNC) — and the White House. Gibbs asked to see the e-mails Garrett had received, sparking a heated exchange between them.

"DUH! Is this a trick question from one of those viscious Townhall Momsters?"

13 posted on 08/17/2009 2:27:01 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: Captain Rhino

I believe you nailed it. They knew they were in over their head as soon as the site was questioned. Now that they’ve shut the email address down they want it to just go away and the enemedia will help with that but Issa and the Internet are a different thing, it might not just go away.


14 posted on 08/17/2009 2:28:48 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: PhilDragoo

Excellent, Phil!


15 posted on 08/17/2009 2:31:02 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Liz

That’s a great pic of Gibby! :-)


16 posted on 08/17/2009 2:32:44 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

When is Gibbs going to apologize to Garrett?


17 posted on 08/17/2009 2:38:44 PM PDT by TankerKC (USAF...retired. Well, on Terminal Leave.)
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To: jazusamo

"After I do my Baghdad Bob impersonation, I go
into my Vinnie Barbarino act. Who? What? Where? "

18 posted on 08/17/2009 2:41:39 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: jazusamo
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) needs to sprout a pair and ask the President WHO IS GOING TO BE FIRED OVER THIS?
19 posted on 08/17/2009 2:44:32 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: TankerKC

Should have happened already but doubt it will.


20 posted on 08/17/2009 2:46:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Liz

LOL! Most appropriate, one’s about as believable as the other.


21 posted on 08/17/2009 2:48:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Boiling Pots

From my earlier post today(copy and pasted from another thread)

The Obama administration has likely broken several laws here. One is this:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode05/usc_sec_05_00000552-—a000-.html

Also possibly the Privacy Act:

http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2009/08/05/white-house-asks-citizens-to-report-fishy-speech-is-it-legal

They are also breaking several campaign finance laws but don’t have those in front of me. The WH is not allowed to use official WH functions/services for campaign purposes.

Hope this helps. These are felonies in that they carry a possible prison sentence of over a year in a federal or state prison.

Excellent link:

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2009/08/privacy_act_req.php

5 US Code §552a(e)(7) commands that any Federal agency

“(7) maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity;”


22 posted on 08/17/2009 3:12:15 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SERKIT

Rep Issa should ask who is going to be prosecuted...not just fired!

The WH has committed a felony.


23 posted on 08/17/2009 3:14:00 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: jazusamo

FINALLY!!!


24 posted on 08/17/2009 3:16:57 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Axelrod could be Hitlers son! They look alike!


25 posted on 08/17/2009 3:17:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jazusamo

During the Bush administration, there’s always a liberal organization (or individual) who was willing to sue the administration simply to make the issue alive. So far, I haven’t seen the use of similar tactic from the conservatives.


26 posted on 08/17/2009 3:21:56 PM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: penelopesire

Thanks for posting these links!


27 posted on 08/17/2009 3:27:47 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

You are welcome. It is special prosecutor time!


28 posted on 08/17/2009 3:37:00 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: jazusamo
Dear Honored Sir:

You may question as to how I was able to ascertain your e-mail address and name, it is been given me by a trusted family advisor HONORABLE Rahm Emanuel, ESQUIRE, Barrister and Counsel. I am HIS EXCELLENCY Barack Hussein OBAMA, Junior, son of the late esteemed bureaucrat and Marxist Philosopher Barack Hussein OBAMA, Senior of Kenya. As I was elected PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES of AmeriKKKa in 2008, and was unfairly deposed on a technicality relating to my birth certificate and other minor issues in 2009. Whilst I was in the Executive palace, I was able to squirrel away several BILLIONS of USD, with the assistance of HONORABLE Timothy Giethner and my proud Princess and First Lady. What I propose is for you to forward, post haste, your banking and exchequer information to Mr. Barrister EMANUEL, in which we may deposit the profits from my short-lived REIGN, in exchange for, we will forward to you 1/20th of the FORTUNE, to the tune of $100 MILLION USD. Time is of the essence, as the newly installed PALIN administration is hot on our heels and we are also making ourselves scarce from Mr. Soros and his henchmen.

29 posted on 08/17/2009 3:55:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: jazusamo

Has anyone Filed a FOIA request for the emails in question?

Probably protected by Presidential Priviledge.


30 posted on 08/17/2009 5:05:50 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: SwedeBoy2

I read something about the FOIA when this fiasco started and it was something to the effect it couldn’t be done for some years, don’t know if that’s true or not.


31 posted on 08/17/2009 5:19:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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