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The Rielle World (What if Edwards had won?)
Slate.com ^ | August 14, 2009 | Christopher Beam

Posted on 08/17/2009 4:40:06 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

The National Enquirer is reporting what everyone already knew—that John Edwards is in fact the father of Rielle Hunter's child—and a North Carolina TV station says he may admit paternity. This news has been met largely with shrugs. Edwards is not only a failed candidate, he is a failed politician, with next to no influence among Democrats.

Still, the news raises two tantalizing hypothetical questions: What if Edwards had won the Democratic nomination? What if he had won the presidency?

First question first. It's easy to forget how close John Edwards came to being the Democratic nominee. When Edwards entered the presidential race in December 2006, many people saw him as the Democrats' best hope. Unlike Obama, he had legislative experience. Unlike Hillary, he'd spent two years touring Iowa and beefing up his populist credentials. And no one blamed him for Kerry's loss in 2004. He was smart, good-looking, and Southern—just like every Democratic president since Johnson.

So what would the primary have looked like? Let's pretend, since we're making all this up anyway, that Obama had decided not to enter the race—he had heeded the "wait your turn" argument many Democrats were making. Edwards would likely have sucked up all the energy and talent that instead ended up joining Obama. David Axelrod had worked for Edwards in 2004, and David Plouffe had worked for Axelrod. (Axelrod had also worked with Hillary on epilepsy advocacy but never as a candidate.) Edwards' themes might even have been "Hope" and "Change." Meanwhile, the big endorsements for Obama—Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson, not to mention major unions like the SEIU and Teamsters—would likely have gone to the relatively progressive Edwards.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnedwards; paternity; riellehunter; twoamericas
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1 posted on 08/17/2009 4:40:07 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Well, we certainly would have different t-shirts and posters.


2 posted on 08/17/2009 4:45:25 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
My, my, how does the story regarding the little spittle head, John Edwards just keep popping up at inopportune times for the Lefty Borg? The comparisons between the media's refusal to vet Edwards and exactly the same strategy for Obama has provided an excellent template for equally disastrous results.
3 posted on 08/17/2009 4:48:09 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
He was smart - Not that smart - his intellect never impressed me a bit

good-looking - In a prissy, femmy, faggy way, maybe. I'm a hetero guy, so I'm not qualified to judge.

and Southern - Aw, HELL no!! Not a real Southerner, not as I know them.

4 posted on 08/17/2009 4:49:51 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It's hard for me to type this . . . . . But I guess we would be better off with The John.
Two pluses. 1. He would be splaining his girlfriend. That would leave no time for screwing up the country.
2. The witch would not be SEC OF STATE. . . . .
5 posted on 08/17/2009 4:51:45 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We don't need anymore Change-The country can't afford it. . . . . .)
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To: iopscusa

Very interesting thought.

It represents total failure of the mighty investigative machine. Deaf, dumb and blind they are


6 posted on 08/17/2009 4:51:48 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
He could not have beaten McCain. He would not have survived the debates. He was destroyed in 2004 by Dick Cheney during the Vice Presidential Debate.

He is an Ambulance Chaser for GOD Sakes!

His record in the Senate was not worth running for reelection on which is why he chose to be Kerry's Running Mate.

7 posted on 08/17/2009 4:52:47 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: BGHater


8 posted on 08/17/2009 4:56:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: iopscusa

Good points. Hard to expand on them. Were it not for a compliant press, this nightmare would not be president (little p).


9 posted on 08/17/2009 4:57:12 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: wmileo

However the VP debate between candidates, Palin and Edwards, would have been interesting, no??


10 posted on 08/17/2009 4:58:22 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Hardastarboard
rats would be surrounding the jerk, just as they are the zer0, who can't produce a real birth certificate, evidence of wealth, & we wd still have green shoots. So it would not have made any difference who had won from that side.

So we have the Joker

11 posted on 08/17/2009 5:04:35 AM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: Hardastarboard
The man dubbed "the Real Liberal" by Rolling Stone(d); Kerry-Edwards ticket carried neither NC nor SC (born in latter state, served as Sen. in former) and had the ticket won those it would have put them over the top (similarly had Gore won his home state of TN that would have resulted in victory in the EC)

Dig the first line in the Rolling Stoned story:

>>If he weren't rich, handsome and so well married, you might feel a little sorry for John Edwards.

Well married? Faithful to his cancer-stricken wife? Not quite as it turned out

Dick Morris is quoted as saying his being male and white were not so much as advantage this time: ""The party is anxious to nominate a black or a woman," And it describes him as 'progressive' but still with the ability to draw in moderates: "the Real John Edwards, a shoot-from-the-hip progressive who won't scare away moderates. "

12 posted on 08/17/2009 5:05:17 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: iopscusa
Edward's “Love Child” is nothing compared to the baggage that Obama openly carried into the White House.
13 posted on 08/17/2009 5:11:29 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Translation = We found someone we think is worse than Obama.


14 posted on 08/17/2009 5:21:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro (America's awkward stage: too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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To: wmileo

He could not have beaten McCain.


Honestly, I think even Dennis Kuchinich could have given McCain a run for his money. McCain was an awful campaigner who could never muster the will to fight fire with fire. He was also very erratic. The MSM knew this, which is why they coaxed him into running and goat roped the GOP into nominating him. Obama was so far ahead for most of the campaign that the MSM never laid into McCain as much as they would have if he were up against a weaker Dem candidate (like Edwards).

Also, I disagree that Edwards had a good shot at the Dem nomination—his chance was zero. The party was hell bent on nominating a woman or a minority—white males (even silky haired ones) need not apply.


15 posted on 08/17/2009 5:21:26 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: NavVet
Imagine if Edwards DID somehow win the Presidency, and then this scandal broke?

"Ma! Ma! Where's my pa?"
"Gone to the White House, ha, ha ha"

a little history:

It was in the July 21st edition that the Buffalo Evening Telegraph dropped a bombshell into the presidential campaign of 1884. Under the banner of "A Terrible Tale," the Telegraph announced to the world "The Pitiful Story of Maria Halpin and Governor Cleveland's Son." The story was that Democratic candidate Grover Cleveland, a bachelor, had had an affair resulting in the birth of a son.

Cleveland's primary supporters and campaign staff asked if it was true, and he said that it was indeed so. When asked how to handle it in the campaign, he said, "Tell the truth." (snip)

The Republicans used the campaign slogan, "Ma Ma, Where's my Pa?" The controversy about public service and private morality raged across the nation.

16 posted on 08/17/2009 5:22:26 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: wmileo
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17 posted on 08/17/2009 5:23:25 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Diogenesis

His mistress “Rielle” was also a major piece of work. She was the basis for a fictional character “Allison Poole” in several books, including “The Story of My Life” and “Glamorama”. [I’m not making this up] Basically, she was a party girl who preyed on the rich and famous. In short, she was the polar opposite of Elizabeth Edwards.


18 posted on 08/17/2009 5:25:21 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Hardastarboard

As a woman who likes “manly men”—Edwards’ looks never impressed me either. I always thought that if you gave him a sequined jacket, he’d look like Liberace. Not exactly a manly-man.


19 posted on 08/17/2009 5:35:19 AM PDT by MizSterious (Impeach Barak "let them eat cake" Obama, while there's still something of our Republic to save.)
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To: iopscusa
"However the VP debate between candidates, Palin and Edwards, would have been interesting, no??"

Send the two of them out into the wild. He would come back harvested, field dressed, skinned and ready for the butcher.

She would come back with dinner!

20 posted on 08/17/2009 5:50:10 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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