You aren't telling the whole story, you were also in a bad mood and harassing the women, I snagged this photo of you when you weren't looking.
Posted on 08/15/2009 2:01:39 PM PDT by pissant
Exactly one week after the highly-publicized arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates stirred a national discussion on race relations, legendary singer-songwriter Bob Dylan was detained by police officers in a "low-income, predominantly minority neighborhood" in Long Branch, New Jersey.
Makes one wonder why it took so long for this to get reported, and if news outlets that were convinced Gates's arrest was racially motivated will see the delicious irony in a white rock star being questioned by police just because he was "wandering around the neighborhood."
The Associated Press sure didn't (h/t Clarence Page):
Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in a New Jersey shore community when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighborhood.
Dylan was in Long Branch, about a two-hour drive south of New York City, on July 23 as part of a tour with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp that was to play at a baseball stadium in nearby Lakewood.
A 24-year-old police officer apparently was unaware of who Dylan is and asked him for identification, Long Branch business administrator Howard Woolley said Friday. [...]
The incident began at 5 p.m. when a resident said a man was wandering around a low-income, predominantly minority neighborhood several blocks from the oceanfront looking at houses.
The police officer drove up to Dylan, who was wearing a blue jacket, and asked him his name. According to Woolley, the following exchange ensued:
"What is your name, sir?" the officer asked.
"Bob Dylan," Dylan said.
"OK, what are you doing here?" the officer asked.
"I'm on tour," the singer replied.
A second officer, also in his 20s, responded to assist the first officer. He, too, apparently was unfamiliar with Dylan, Woolley said. [...]
The officers asked Dylan, 68, to accompany them back to the Ocean Place Resort and Spa, where the performers were staying. Once there, tour staff vouched for Dylan.
Here's the money quote:
The officers thanked him for his cooperation.
"He couldn't have been any nicer to them," Woolley added.
In fact, according to ABCNews.com, Dylan was quite gracious:
"He was really nice, though, and he said he understood why I had to verify his identity and why I couldn't let him go," Buble said.
Hmmm. So, Dylan was detained a week after Gates, was cooperative, and the issue was quickly resolved.
And we're hearing about this NOW?
How might this have impacted the Gates-Sgt. James Crowley affair if it had been reported at the time it happened rather than over three weeks after the fact?
None of the news reports I've reviewed concerning the Dylan incident addressed why this matter was buried until now, nor did they mention how it might have related to the Gates-Crowley affair.
I guess when a white rock legend is detained by police for having the nerve to walk around a minority neighborhood, and cooperates fully with the authorities to quickly resolve the misunderstanding, it's not a teachable moment.
Wandering While White.
He might as well have told them that his name is Bob Zimmerman.
Absolutely! No reason to detain him period.
parsy, who says the cops here and in Gates acted stupidly
I don’t know NJ’s laws, but someone had called the cops on Dylan so the female cop was suspicious of him and actually thought he was a nut for claiming he was Dylan...but had no ID. She didn’t arrest him, she gave him a ride to his bus so he could produce the ID, even though she thought he was feeding her a line of bull.
Sounds like he had a lot of nerve.
If you ever go to Houston
Better walk right
Keep your hands in your pockets
And your gun-belt tight
You’ll be asking for trouble
If you’re lookin’ for a fight
If you ever go to Houston
Boy, you better walk right
If you’re ever down there
On Bagby and Lamar
You better watch out for
The man with the shining star
Better know where you’re going
Or stay where you are
If you’re ever down there
On Bagby and Lamar
I know these streets
I’ve been here before
I nearly got killed here
During the Mexican war
Something always
Keeps me coming back for more
I know these streets
I’ve been here before
If you ever go to Dallas
Say hello to Mary Anne
Say I’m still pullin’ on the trigger
Hangin’ on the best that I can
If you see her sister Lucy
Say I’m sorry I’m not there
Tell her other sister Betsy
To pray the sinner’s prayer
I got a restless fever
Burnin’ in my brain
Got to keep ridin’ forward
Can’t spoil the game
The same way I leave here
Will be the way that I came
Got a restless fever
Burnin’ in my brain
Mr. Policeman
Can you help me find my gal
Last time I saw her
Was at the Magnolia Hotel
If you help me find her
You can be my pal
Mr. Policeman
Can you help me find my gal
If you ever go to Austin
Fort Worth or San Antone
Find the bar rooms I got lost in
And send my memories home
Put my tears in a bottle
Screw the top on tight
If you ever go to Houston
You better walk right
WANDERING WHILE WHITE...!
Were the officers BLACK? This story has RUSH written allllll over it..!
“I agree with you about Gates but this cop broke the law. You have to have reasonable suspicion to detain someone and he did not.”
Exactly what I was thinking. Since when do the cops have the right to even QUESTION you if all you’re doing is walking down the street - much less refuse to let you go on your way once you answer their questions? Regardless of what it feels like with these Socialist Pigs in power - we’re not in Nazi Germany YET, and we don’t HAVE to carry our “papers” with us to prove who we are and what our business is... or DO WE???
Frequently whites who turn up in poor black neighborhoods are there to do drug deals or are looking for prostitutes, which is obviously what the resident who reported him thought. The police often detain them long enough to get their ID because this discourages them from coming back and encouraging problem behavior in these neighborhoods, which the law abiding residents do not like. The residents often request this from “community policing” programs.
That said, Dylan acted in a very civilized, non-celeb manner. None of this “Do you know who I am?” from him!
All Bob had to do was to start ‘singing’ for them.
The cops would have fled the scene asap.
Those police officers acted stupidly
didn’t they Obambi?
Take the train down from the city
Get sick get well hang around the Inkwell
The Inkwell was a coffee house/nightclub on the north end of town ... became Mumford's restaurant I think
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LOL! Very witty reply.. you think like I do except quicker. Bob seems like a gentleman, but I don’t understand how anyone could listen to the guy.. I never could!
“Wandering While White.”
ROFLMAO!
That’s a good one.
My goodness, the man is 68! What on earth is wrong with him taking a stroll.
I’m glad he was polite, and yes, it is amazing this did not make the news.
“All Bob had to do was to start ‘singing’ for them.
The cops would have fled the scene asap.”
LOL! That’s what my daughter (who does a killer imitation) would say!
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didnt you?
Peopled call, say, beware doll, youre bound to fall
You thought they were all kiddin you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin out
Now you dont talk so loud
Now you dont seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
Not purty enuff fer ye?
Dylan’s art is far more than a conventually pretty voice. He is the greatest song writer in American history and a great performer of his music as well. His songs tell stories and he is a great story teller in the tradition of Leadbelly, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Jimmy Reed, Lighting Hopkins and Big Bill Broonzy.
[Never heard of Bob Dylan? Man I’m getting old.]
I tell people I worked with Joan Baez’s mother in a bookstore and hung with some of Mimi Farina’s friends. I could just as well be from Planet X in the Zorg galaxy.
Media trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill again.
Dylan wasn’t “detained”. He was merely asked for ID.while lurking around a not so nice hood.
Best funny lines of recent times. Thanks for the laugh.
There is more to being a great singer than just having a great voice. Although Dylan has plenty of songs which are not sung in his typical raspy sound. Whole albums of them in fact.
So what. Is it a requirement that Cops know who leftwing moonbats demi god rock stars are?
And the cop did have a right to ask him for ID. He was lurking around where a person normally wouldn't, which is cause for suspicion.
Well, my sons knew about this the day after it happened, so we can’t really say it wasn’t reported. Obviously, there’s no way scream “racism” when an old white guy is detained, so there’s clearly no story here.........
I got nabbed at a family reunion picnic. I'm an extremely hideous looking guy and one of my wife's cousins decided I was out of place at the gathering and confronted me. It was awkward.
BZZZZZZZ.
WRONG.
He was escorted to his hotel to confirm who he said he was. If he hadn't been Bob Dylan, I bet they would have arrested him. Yet he was still a gentleman unlike Gates.
Not at all. Being an ignorant dumbass is perfectly acceptable.
Yeah, sounds kinda awkward. What did he say when you proved who you were?
He was smug. Go figure.
Wow. Some people..
Including Thomas Pynchon?
You aren't telling the whole story, you were also in a bad mood and harassing the women, I snagged this photo of you when you weren't looking.
Using common sense, match subject to reaction by drawing lines
Subject Reaction
2. teacher B. shuffling, giggling, mollifying statements
Apparently in NJ you can’t walk down the street without the cops having RAS to terry stop you. Sad.
I’d bet a shiney new nickel that the ride back to the buss to get ID’d wasn’t voluntary. The title should read “Bob Dylan Arrested by cops week after gates....” Just because he wasn’t charged doesn’t mean he wasn’t unlawfully arrested.
The reasonable suspicion is that a resident called in. Soliciting prostitution is illegal, and so is purchasing drugs.
Oh man he really mst feel old tonight after he realized that her Grandmother might’ve instantly recognized him! ;)
OK so we know the neighborhood was black.
We know the suspicious guy was white.
We DO NOT know the race of the cops. It wouldn’t tell us anything conclusive, but it’s still relevant, and it’s conspicuous by omission.
Well, maybe back in the day.. but now I doubt that. Janis Joplin is another one I never could tolerate. Now Tom Waits, him I don’t mind..
[Including Thomas Pynchon?]
No, I was hot for a French folksinger friend of the Baez’s named Martine Habib though.
Bob Dylan Blowin’ In the Wind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ced8o50G9kg
Bob Dylan - Knockin’ on Heaven's Door (1976-Hard Rain)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GNearEuncU&feature=related
You’re just trying to score some free beer.
they are white
I had never heard of her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3L3voLFJQ
Pretty voice, she sounds similar to Baez.
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