Posted on 08/14/2009 11:51:58 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
National Socialism is banned from the Right’s case against socialism, but is somehow acceptable when leftists use it as a smear or when the Left’s nuanced geniuses, after their very thoughtful consideration, decide its invocation is suitable for mature audiences? I don’t think so.
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How about the sponsors that pulled the plug on Glenn Beck? This morning clueless Meeka on MSNBC Morning Joe said she hopes to see more sponsors pulling the plug on extreme anti-Obama rhetoric on cable news (she obviously misses Olbermann). Seems like a conflict of interest given she competes with FNC.
They keep perpetuating the lie that Nazis were right wingers. This is a typical liberal tactic: Keep telling a lie until it becomes the truth. Example: Hillery says matter-of-factly, ‘Everybody knows about the racist republicans in the south.’ Actually, the most vociferous opponents to the civil rights movement were Dems!
...and “greens” are red.
Environmentalism secrets
http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/20060401/gielow.shtml
If you think environmentalism is all about saving the Earth, protecting the whales, stopping pollution, and the like, here’s some news. It’s not! Listen to what environmental advocates themselves have to say:
“I think if we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have a chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecologically sound society under socialism. I don’t think it’s possible under capitalism.”
Judi Bari, Earth First! member.
[Environmentalism equals replacing capitalism with socialism.]
“The environmentalist’s dream is an egalitarian society, based on rejection of economic growth, a smaller population, eating lower on the food chain, consuming a lot less, and sharing a much lower level of resources much more equally.”
Aaron Wildavsky, political scientist and professor.
[Environmentalism equals making everybody equal; that is, it’s communism.]
“No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits... [C]limate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
Christine Stewart, Canadian Environment Minister.
[Environmentalism equals changing the world.]
“We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists, and their projects... We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers, and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land.”
David Foreman, EarthFirst! member.
[Environmentalism equals a return to primitive living.]
“We’ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing, in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”
Timothy Wirth, Clinton Administration U.S. Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs, and one of a number of politicians (including Barbara Boxer, Barney Frank, Al Gore, John Kerry, Christopher Shays, and others) who were designated as “Green Leadership for the ‘90s.”
[Environmentalism equals changing policy by claiming – even without substantiation – it’s necessary to save the world’s environment.]
“[W]e have to offer up scary scenarios [about global warming and destruction of the environment], make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts one might have... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
Stephen Schneider, Stanford University environmentalist.
[Environmentalism equals lies “if necessary.”]
“We routinely wrote scare stories about the hazards of chemicals, employing words like “cancer,” and “birth defects” to splash a little cold water in reporters’ faces... Our press reports were more or less true... Few handouts, however, can be completely honest, and ours were no exception... We were out to whip the public into a frenzy about the environment.”
Jim Sibbison, former EPA press officer.
[Environmentalism equals government-sponsored deception.]
“Not only do journalists not have a responsibility to report what skeptical scientists have to say about global warming, they have a responsibility not to report what these scientists say.”
Ross Gelbspan, former editor of The Boston Globe.
[Environmentalism equals silencing debate, and stifling contrary opinions.]
“I would freely admit that on [global warming] we have crossed the boundary from news reporting to advocacy.”
Charles Alexander, Time magazine science editor.
[Environmentalism equals indoctrination.]
The Nazis were "National Socialists," but if you look at the actual historical record, it's pretty clear Hitler was using socialist tropes largely as a means to an end--the end. The Night of Long Knives was a purge of true-believing socialists like SA Commander Ernst Rohm who expected something closer to a communist paradise rather than a second Roman Empire.
Your right on with that one. The KKK was the Democrat militia. Started by and run by Democrats
Nazism died with Hitler 64 years ago, and the Ku Klux Klan faded away about three or four decades ago. The Left needs to get some new boogiemen.
A great summation of the yearnings and delusions of the left.
Socialists have been beating the “back to nature” drum ever since the very beginnings of the industrial revolution. They know that, given the freedom to think, people will realize that to “reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers, and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land”, etc. will mean a die-off of almost all of the world’s population except for their select “enlightened” few. (Hey is this starting to sound like a religion?). Until the time comes when these poor ignorant bastards are the only ones left in their garden of Eden, they will have to stifle all freedom of thought and inquiry.
Life in the jungle without a gun would seem intolerable to one who cares to think about it. But it might be worth being there just to watch these morons get overtaken by whatever plague engulfs the world after they sue the last drug company out of business.
(Must be all those rotting corpses laying around - you just can’t get decent help any more).
So socialism led to fascism in Hitler's case, even though they kept the word "socialist" in the party name.
Of course, you will not hear Obama's gang call themselves "socialists." Are the goals of the Obama gang limited to socialism, or do they want socialism first and then a switch to something else? Are they puppets for something else?
Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme released, right wing behind release?
Rush Limbaugh Said To Arrange Release Of Would-be Assassin
"Limbaugh has 'deal' with Fromme according to DoJ," sources told this newspaper
Of course, you will not hear Obama's gang call themselves "socialists." Are the goals of the Obama gang limited to socialism, or do they want socialism first and then a switch to something else? Are they puppets for something else?
Fascism was a reaction to both unfettered capitalism and Marxism--the tyranny of the center if you will. A group in society saying "We're the normal ones, we're beset on both sides by the elites and the rabble" They pick out a scape goat and take an ends-justify-the-means route to ensuring that their perception of the good life becomes the only way--with the leaders thinking they should run the whole show thanks to their bright idea. It's easy to draw comparisons to both our political parties these days. I think the real opposite of fascism is not conservatism or liberalism but true individualism--not just in the economic sense but in the tolerant sense. The problem is that extreme liberty ultimately results in social breakdown (hey I can do whatever I want) and class conflict (some people are just going to do better than others and if the losers aren't pissed, their kids will be). Eventually everybody starts working for or getting their ass kicked by the winners which puts a real dent in your individuality (still at work at 7:30pm on a Friday here lol). Hence our current ideological struggle about the best way to balance it all out.
Ha that's my amateur politcal philosophy nugget for the day.
obumpa
True, but I believe that a true conservative is an individual also.
Most significantly, you need a huge, dare I say TOTALITARIAN govt to implement facism/socialism/communism. Limited constitutional govt as advocated by classical liberal conservatives is that that is LEAST likely to result in Nazism.
As usual, libs and DemocRATS are showing themselves to be their usual counterfactual, couterintuitive, delusional atrribute projecting selves.
ping for later
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