Sickening...
Posted on 08/10/2009 2:34:55 PM PDT by neverdem
GUADALAJARA, Mexico — President Obama said Monday that efforts to change the immigration system would be a major focus for his administration only next year, after other major priorities were accomplished, including passage of a new health care system.
“It’s very important for us to sequence these big initiatives in a way where they don’t all just crash at the same time,” he said, according to The Associated Press.
Mr. Obama, flanked by the leaders of Mexico and Canada, spoke here at a news conference after an annual trilateral summit meeting. Responding to a range of questions on domestic and international issues, he also said the United States was committed to the return of the ousted president of Honduras, Manuel Zelaya.
Mr. Obama offered a spirited defense of Mexico’s fight against drug traffickers, brushing aside suggestions that some American financial assistance ought to be withheld because of human rights abuses by the army.
Repeating a line used often by President Felipe Calderón of Mexico, Mr. Obama labeled the drug traffickers causing so much violence in both Mexico and the United States as the biggest violators of human rights.
The American aid package for Mexico states that 15 percent of the funds — about $100 million — can be disbursed only if the State Department decides that the Mexican government meets certain human rights conditions. Reports that Mexico’s army has engaged in torture and other abuses while carrying out the drug war have prompted human rights groups and some American lawmakers to oppose releasing those funds.
Clearly pleased by the words of support, Mr. Calderón said his government had worked scrupulously to respect human rights. “We have an absolute, complete commitment to human rights,” he said. “Our fight against the cartels is about the human rights of the Mexican people.”
But...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
I'll bet.
"...after other major priorities were accomplished, including passage of a new health care system."
Pretty optimistic, aren'tcha ducky?
So, he'd prefer that they crash over a long, drawn-out period?
Translation, I don’t want to jeopardize Democrat congress re-election efforts. Vote for Dems if you want amnesty, but don’t hold it against Dems if I haven’t tackled illegal immigration yet...
Message translation: “You right-wing honkies ait seen nuten yet.”
Amnesty wouldn’t work in 2010, because not enough illegals would get ballots in time for the 2010 elections.
File under:
No Sh*t, Sherlock!
Oh sure, we believe him.
“Obama Says Immigration Changes Must Wait Till 2010”
Please wait ‘til we vote you out of office in 2012.
Then you can do whatever your Marxist heart desires.
from today’s presser:
Question from Ginger NYTimes: To President Obama, given the fight that you’re having to wage for health care, I wonder if you can tell us what you think the prospects are for immigration reform, for comprehensive immigration reform, which you’ve said is your goal; and whether you think that the blows you’re taking now on health care and that the Democrats are likely to take around the midterm elections will make it hard, if not impossible, to achieve comprehensive immigration reform in this term — and what you’ve told President Calderón about that?
President Calderón, I’d like to hear a little bit about your thoughts on Honduras. There have been some in Latin America who have said that the United States has not acted strongly enough to return President Zelaya to power. And I wonder if you could talk a little bit about how you feel about what the United States should be doing or could be doing to restore democratic order in Honduras.
And, Prime Minister Harper, a few months ago the Homeland Security Secretary of the United States went to Canada — or at least aggravated Canadian sensibilities when she compared the Canadian border to the Mexican border. And I wonder what you think about that and how you feel about the United States using some of the enforcement strategies adopted on the southern border in the north. Thank you.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: That’s all? (Laughter.)
Q That’s all, Mr. President.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, first of all, Ginger, I don’t know if you’re doing some prognosticating about the outcome of the midterm elections, which are over a year away. I anticipate we’ll do just fine. And I think when all is said on health care reform, the American people are going to be glad that we acted to change an unsustainable system so that more people have coverage, we’re bending the cost curve, and we’re getting insurance reforms so that people don’t get dropped because of preexisting conditions or other issues.
So understand, though, I’m not acting based on short-term political calculations. I’m looking at what’s best for the country long term. If I had been making short-term political calculations, I wouldn’t be standing here as President, because nobody calculated that I could win the presidency.
With respect to immigration reform, I continue to believe that is also in the long-term interests of the United States. We have a broken immigration system. Nobody denies it. And if we continue on a path we’re on, we will continue to have tensions with our Mexican neighbors; we will continue to have people crossing the borders in a way that is dangerous for them, unfair for those who are applying legally to immigrate; we’re going to continue to have employers who are exploiting workers because they’re not within a legal system, and so oftentimes are receiving less than minimum wage, or don’t have overtime, or being abused in other fashion. That’s going to depress U.S. wages. It’s causing ongoing tensions inside the United States. It’s not fair and it’s not right, and we’re going to change it.
Now, I’ve got a lot on my plate, and it’s very important for us to sequence these big initiatives in a way where they don’t all just crash at the same time. And what we’ve said is in the fall when we come back, we’re going to complete health care reform. We still have to act on energy legislation that has passed the House, but the Senate, I’m sure, is going to have its own ideas about how it wants to approach it. We still have financial regulatory reform that has to get done because we don’t want a situation in which irresponsible actions in the global financial markets can precipitate another crisis. That’s a pretty big stack of bills.
Fortunately, what we’ve been able to do is to begin meeting with both Democrats and Republicans from the House and the Senate. Secretary Napolitano is coordinating these discussions, and I would anticipate that before the year is out we will have draft legislation along with sponsors potentially in the House and the Senate who are ready to move this forward, and when we come back next year, that we should be in a position to start acting.
Now, am I going to be able to snap my fingers and get this done? No. This is going to be difficult; it’s going to require bipartisan cooperation. There are going to be demagogues out there who try to suggest that any form of pathway for legalization for those who are already in the United States is unacceptable. And those are fights that I’d have to have if my poll numbers are at 70 or if my poll numbers are at 40. That’s just the nature of the U.S. immigration debate.
But ultimately, I think the American people want fairness. And we can create a system in which you have strong border security, we have an orderly process for people to come in, but we’re also giving an opportunity for those who are already in the United States to be able to achieve a pathway to citizenship so that they don’t have to live in the shadows, and their children and their grandchildren can have a full participation in the United States. So I’m confident we can get it done.
Oh, excuse me — I know this wasn’t directed at me, but I just want to make one quick point on Honduras, because you repeated something that I’ve heard before. The same critics who say that the United States has not intervened enough in Honduras are the same people who say that we’re always intervening, and the Yankees need to get out of Latin America. You can’t have it both ways.
We have been very clear in our belief that President Zelaya was removed from office illegally, that it was a coup, and that he should return. We have cooperated with all the international bodies in sending that message. Now, if these critics think that it’s appropriate for us to suddenly act in ways that in every other context they consider inappropriate, then I think what that indicates is, is that maybe there’s some hypocrisy involved in their approach to U.S.-Latin America relations that certainly is not going to guide my administration policies.
“Obama Says Immigration Changes Must Wait Till 2010”
Please wait ‘til we vote you out of office in 2012.
Then you can do whatever your Marxist heart desires.
We might not have until 2012, if Obama is able to do what he wants to do, we are all screwed. His DeathCare, Amnesty for illegals, he is piece by piece destroying this country
Obama Says Immigration Changes Must Wait Till 2010
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Wise Latina nominations don’t count?
Yeah, right.
By the time ACORN is done with the Census, and all the ACORN vote campaigns/State Run Media propoganda is done, 2012 or ANY election in the next 10 years won't fix what is being destroyed (maybe NEVER until a Revolution)
Translation: I am going to try to sneak this in while you are distracted by health care.
Never trust him. Never.
No , he’s just stupid enough to try to push that through next summer , just in time for elections to be the final nail in Pelosi’s coffin , Maybe Reid too if it’s a really big landslide which is completely possible right now.
Seems as if all energy, healthcare, immigration and climate change legislation is being prepared in anticipation of including ALL of Canada and Mexico, too...now, to just integrate the militaries, the borders and laws, and finances and currency for all three countries with Obamaism as the central driving force (deadly farce)is all that there must be left to do except, of course, the depopulation efforts starting with increased abortions and demise of the elderly prematurely as representing major ‘cost saving’ initiatives of the ‘deathcare’ plan.
“We might not have until 2012, if Obama is able to do what he wants to do, we are all screwed. His DeathCare, Amnesty for illegals, he is piece by piece destroying this country.”
I’m with you on that....it could take 4 decades to undo what these clowns are doing to us right now.
But it took 4 years of Carter to get us Reagan.
Sickening...
What the heck, that’s only a few months away...
He's right about one thing: "...ultimately, I think the American people want fairness." Yes they do. And fairness means people abiding by the rules and our laws, and not being rewarded when they don't -- at the expense of the American people.
I agree. He hasn’t been in politics long enough, and certainly wasn’t in the Senate long enough, to have a feel for how election timing impacts the chances of controversial legislation passing. And apparently none of his wiz-bang staff have a clue, either.
Jimmy Carter was bad(I don’t remember how it was with him, was way too young, but I have been told by members of my family) but Obama is 20 times worse. If Obama’s plans are not stopped, it might be irreversible
If we can take back the house or reduce the dem #s in the senate in 2010, he may never get a chance to ram thru amnesty or his other leftest legislation.
Good, that will be closer to the next election. i dare them to proceed then.
Doesn’t matter if we take them back or not. His chances of passing amnesty grow smaller every day. Next year, an election year, they will be nil. The closer to an election you get, the less likely it is you can pass iffy legislation. That’s why they are trying to get cap and trade this year, and the health-care Rube Goldberg socialization plan. Next year, all bets are off because most of them have their minds concentrated by a looming election and become risk-averse. The Dem leadership, most of whom are in safe districts, will try to bully it through, but as I said, the closer you get to an election, the lower their chances of success become. And boy has he thumbed his nose at the open borders crowd. What a site to see.
The arrogance is waist high.
Blow it out your human, Barry.
He’s lying.
Don't be too sure.
It was a Republican president, and a lot of Republicans in the Senate and House (led by John McCain) who were in the pocket of the Wall Street Journal and the Chamber of Commerce that tried to force amnesty on us last time.
And those RINOs - Graham, McCain, Sam Johnson, Cornyn, Flake - are still around.
Ut oh——by now, we know when he makes statements like this....he’s planning to do just the opposite of what he says.
This is what I fear may be our downfall. We've already let them (ACORN/Socialists) get away with voter fraud on a massive scale. In reality absolutely nothing was done about it and in fact it was barely talked about while they rigged the elections right under our noses. Does anyone think the Obamas have ANY fear whatsoever of rigging the 2010 elections? I just hope our goose is not cooked already.
I think there’s a halfway chance that could happen, that is, Congress will insist despite his priorities (see Smuckie Schumer), but it would be the coup de grace for his approval ratings, and perhaps his re-election chances. He already is in deep doo-doo over health care, and adding amnesty at the same time could drive him over the brink.
fear the islamic tidal wave
Obama lies????
still beating the Zelaya horse? proof positive he refuses to accept being wrong.
2010????....I thought he said today a bill would be pushed voted on by the end of the year?
check out who mans most urban County Recorder’s Offices nationwide, (where the poll counted votes are tallied)
“We have been very clear in our belief that President Zelaya was removed from office illegally, that it was a coup, and that he should return. We have cooperated with all the international bodies in sending that message. Now, if these critics think that it’s appropriate for us to suddenly act in ways that in every other context they consider inappropriate, then I think what that indicates is, is that maybe there’s some hypocrisy involved in their approach to U.S.-Latin America relations that certainly is not going to guide my administration policies.”
is he saying the left wing considers his meddling inappropriate? in every other context they consider inappropriate? thats not the conservative base. very odd.
Just in time for the election.
Vote Democrat. :D
Go to any Walgreens, or large supermarket and start reading the labels.
You'll find your candy or cereal or whatever is a 'product of US, Canada & or Mexico'.....or variations of this.
Our beef at Publix (a large supermarket chain in the South) sold their beef as 'product of US or Mexico'....
Many of us loudly objected, and ta da....they've suddenly found those American cows and now it says 'product of USA'...
ROTFLMCO.
That laugh-a-thon was in response to Obama labeling Mexican traffickers causing death and violence in the United States as the "biggest violators of human rights. "
A multi-billion dollar American aid package for Mexico states that 15% of the funds — about $100 million — can be disbursed only if the State Department decides that the Mexican government meets certain human rights conditions.
Does the State Dept know the Mexican govt is orchestrating a lucrative scam based on a "drug war" .... so as to create a new class of illegals who are pouring over the border into the US, claiming "persecution."
The Mexican govt knows Social Security provides financial aid to these "refugees."
The Mexican gov't is coaching its citizens-----on how to drain the US Treasury..... to mooch off working class US taxpayers to get monthly Social Security checks under the "refugee" status.
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Keep in mind these people never paid a dime into the SS system; yet, they can collect seven years straight......and get extended payments if they are politically well-connected.
The SS checks to these "persecuted refugees" can amount to $1000 a month...... and more. Some "refugees" are wealthy Mexican nationals whining about "persecution" in order to collect.
Most of this money is sent back to Mexico where the govt gets a cut. The Mexican govt expects the Mexican "refugees" to return as soon as they setup several identities to get monthly multiple US checks flooding Mexico.
Going to be hard after he loses the house and the Senate becomes more 1/2 and 1/2!
“If Obama’s plans are not stopped, it might be irreversible..”
I think this guy’s in bed with some pretty shady people....he might just get JFK’d at the rate he’s going....
There is no question of their thefts in the Minnesota election, in their quashing of ballots and acceptance of phoney ACORN early and absentee ballots in Ohio (Jennifer Brunner saw to that; their operative there), and the 97% black voter support of The Messiah shows where we've come.
Add all the millions of illegals that will soon be granted amnesty, and their voting will be for Democrats, too, just to keep the handouts coming....
Saying it was salsa causing deaths----authorities actually destroyed American tomato farmers b/c they were afraid to name Mexico as the culprit.
We want all produce marked with the country of origin.
Do not buy mexican produce or food products.
Mexican cartels smuggle oil to US / MEXICO CITY(AP) — U.S. refineries bought millions of dollars worth of oil siphoned from Mexican government pipelines and smuggled across the border - in some cases by drug cartels expanding their reach. US Homeland Security department is scheduled to hand over $2.4 million to Mexico's tax administration, the first batch of money seized during a joint investigation into smuggled oil that authorities expect to lead to more arrests and seizures.
In a surprising public acknowledgment, Mexican President Felipe Calderon said last week that drug cartels have extended their operations into the theft of oil, Mexico's leading source of foreign income which finances about 40 percent of the national budget. "These are Mexican resources, and we do not have to sit back or turn a blind eye," Calderon said. "This is our national heritage and we must defend it."
Didn't this clown (obummer) take an oath to uphold the laws of this country?
Question: Why has no "reporter ever ask him why he is not upholding ALL of the laws of this country?
Obama plans to bring illegals amnesty in time to vote in 2010, at a time when they will be greatful to him...Obvious.
TAKEBACK THE CENSUS FROM OBAMA'S THUGS ACORN CENSUS TAKERS WILL TARGET ILLEGALS TO HYPE REDISTRICTING FOR DEMS
ACTION----EMAIL thomas.l.mesenbourg.jr@census.gov
Thomas L Mesenbourg, acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau
MESSAGE Demand that Mr Mesenbourg supply all ACORN census takers with the main tel number for ICE....1-866-347-2423. Mr Mesenbourg must understand it is the legal obligation of US citizens (and census takers) to report an illegal alien's presence and employment. Notification of wrongdoing compels enforcement action....AND COMPLIANCE.
MESSAGE The census should provide penetrating census forms for illegal aliens. How many identities they are using, multiple precincts in which they are registered to vote, how many welfare checks, UI checks, disability checks, EITC refunds each illegal is pocketing. How many sub-prime mortgage loans they stuck US citizens with. Income from dealing drugs and other income not reported to the IRS. Specific orders they received from foreign governments ---or their agents---to defraud the US census.
Mesenbourg would be violating the law if he did not advise census takers that it is a US citizen's lawful obligation to report an illegal alien's presence and place of employment. All census takers should be provided with the phone number for ICE (TOLL FREE 1-866-347-2423).
Immigration law that requires that aliens be documented for legal entry. (1) Those who sneak into the country are referred to as `entry without inspection (EWI). (2) Others enter with legal documentation and then violate the terms on which they have been admitted by taking jobs that are not authorized or overstaying the authorized period of stay in the country.
NOTE WELL Both types of illegal immigrants are deportable under Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) which says: Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable. If you have evidence of illegal immigration, contact the main DHS Hotline for assistance. 1 866 DHS - 2ICE (or) 1-866-347-2423. SOURCE: FAIR.org
ACTION Contact Thomas Mesenbourg, acting director of the US Census Bureau
EMAIL thomas.l.mesenbourg.jr@census.gov
"How stupid can you get? Your poll numbers are tanking.
You screwed up healthcare. You started a race war.
Now I gotta trot out your frickin' wife and kids in those
ugly Gap clothes to make you look good again."
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