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Stop the violence at health care town halls (barf alert)
SEIU.org ^ | 5:08 PM Eastern - August 7, 2009 | Dr. L. Toni Lewis, MD

Posted on 08/09/2009 11:52:37 PM PDT by OL Hickory

Last night in St. Louis, Missouri, a reverend and member of SEIU was assaulted at a town hall. The incident, along with a town hall in Tampa, Florida, has been all over the radio and cable news shows. GOP operatives are rushing to paint it as SEIU "thug" violence. That couldn't be further from the truth.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bustunions; seiu; stop; townhalls; unionthugs; violence
read the comments they are all AGAINST AEIU
1 posted on 08/09/2009 11:52:38 PM PDT by OL Hickory
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To: OL Hickory

Sorry, SEIU
That’s better!


2 posted on 08/09/2009 11:53:19 PM PDT by OL Hickory (I AM JIM THOMPSON!!)
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To: OL Hickory

they are the ones doing the violence. but the media is on their side.


3 posted on 08/09/2009 11:53:22 PM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: OL Hickory

Dr. L. Toni Lewis, MD

Luella Toni Lewis, M.D. Executive Vice-President, Committee of Interns, SEIU


Dr. L. Toni Lewis, MD SEIU Healthcare


4 posted on 08/10/2009 12:01:32 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

This is a 17 minute video of a senator discussing the health care bill. VERY INFORMATIONAL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryd90y7eOA4


5 posted on 08/10/2009 12:07:13 AM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: GeronL

sent their story to flag@whitehouse.gov


6 posted on 08/10/2009 12:07:43 AM PDT by postal patty
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The Social Medicine Portal
An Alternative to Corporate Health

The meeting began with a welcome from Paula Mayo, Director of the Interchurch Center, and introductory remarks by Dr. L. Toni Lewis

1.Social and economic conditions profoundly impact health, disease and the practice of medicine.
2.The health of the population is a matter of social concern.
3.Society should promote health through both individual and social means.
As might be gathered from these ideas, social medicine was not simply an academic pursuit. Its practitioners were political reformers, radicals, activists. Virchow believed that the “physician was the natural advocate for the poor.” And this defense of social justice would stamp future generations of physicians and health care workers.

Social Medicine Portal, a project developed by faculty members of the Department of Family and Social Medicine of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

http://www.socialmedicine.org/welcome-to-the-social-medicine-portal/


7 posted on 08/10/2009 12:07:56 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: OL Hickory

The SEIU contains a lot of old communist party supporters, esp. Dennis Rivera of the old Local 1199. Ask about 1199’s first founder/president Leon Davis, Mr. Support the CPUSA himself. Ask about Davis’ red buddies, the Foner boys, Henry, Moe, etc. Ask about the CP’s David Livingston and Al Evanoff (longtime CP supporter) in the Distributive Workers of America District 65.

SOmebody ask the SEIU why there are so many reds in it? Oh, I forgot. It was an amalgamation of old CP unions with socialist ones. Go to Wikipedia and read about the SEIU’s history. The old unions were CPUSA-dominated ones.

Now they are the red-shirts (along with ACORN) of the communist/socialist movement. It’s the 1930’s all over again, but this time Hitler is Obama, and Himmler is Holder and Emanuel, and Pelosi is Eva Braun.

This is red fascism at its finest and it’s coming to your neighborhood townhall soon.


8 posted on 08/10/2009 12:08:21 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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“me or your lyin’ eyes” bump..


9 posted on 08/10/2009 12:11:04 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: OL Hickory
And it's a reminder of how GOP scare-tactics ("the government will kill the elderly,!"

True. Obama himself said they might have to deny life saving treatments, and give them a pain pill.

"the government will choose your doctors!"

More likely your doctor will quit treating you rather than lose money on the government plan. Many will quit medicine altogether. You will be forced to select from a ever shrinking pool of doctors willing to continue to work under the government plan.

or "the government will ration care!") use fear to overpower the truth.

Obviously, with fewer doctors, set prices, and more patients, they will have to ration.

10 posted on 08/10/2009 12:11:09 AM PDT by Hugin (Sarah Palin: accept no substitutes!)
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To: OL Hickory

Gee...you don’t suppose they’re collecting the signups’ URL’s to feed into the DomesticTerroristInformationMatrix??


11 posted on 08/10/2009 12:11:22 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: OL Hickory

Tuesday, 28 July 2009
Health Care Push

Propagation of class warfare by Dr. L. Toni Lewis, MD of SEIU Healthcare. It is interesting that this supposed doctor was e-mailing me as a part of the lobbyist group Healthcare United, now she shows her affiliation with SEIU. Is Healthcare United a front group for SEIU? See some of the grinding verbiage I have highlighted below:

Dear Interstellar,

When was the last time you got a paycheck for $9,600?

If it was last pay period, the health care reform bill in Congress may not be for you. But if you’re one of the 98% of Americans who make less than $250,000 every year, you stand to save a lot of money.

The health care reform bill being voted on in the House this week will save you an average of $2,200 per year.[1] It would have people who make more than a quarter of a million dollars help pay for reform by rolling back Bush’s tax cuts for the rich. [2]

The bill is headed for a vote in the next few days. Click here to write a letter to your representative and urge them to pass historic health reform so you can save money.

For decades, giant corporations have refused to pay their fair share of rising health care costs. All the while, workers, small business owners, and our families have picked up their tab.

We can change that. But we’ve got to act now. Click here to tell Congress it’s time everyone - even millionaires - did their part to fix health care.

This bill guarantees us quality, affordable health care. It will cover the uninsured and significantly lower the costs for those of us who have insurance. Let’s pass this bill, so we can lower ours.

Thanks for all you do,

Dr. L. Toni Lewis, MD
SEIU Healthcare

http://tinyurl.com/le925a


12 posted on 08/10/2009 12:12:35 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: OL Hickory

CIR President L. Toni Lewis, MD, was elected to the Executive Board of SEIU


An official with SEIU, which has been sending members to town halls to counterbalance the Tea Party brigade

Sebelius calls her SEIU “brothers and sisters” to battle; Dennis Rivera (SEIU President) decries “terrorist tactics”


13 posted on 08/10/2009 12:22:50 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: OL Hickory


14 posted on 08/10/2009 12:31:19 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Don't these people ever have to work?
15 posted on 08/10/2009 12:34:51 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: OL Hickory

Rep. Pelosi addresses 6500 SEIU leaders and members at the SEIU Convention in San Francisco


16 posted on 08/10/2009 12:36:46 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: OL Hickory

their funny as heck video of “violence” at their pledge site.

http://action.seiu.org/page/s/townhall

from twitter


17 posted on 08/10/2009 12:37:07 AM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: GeronL


19 posted on 08/10/2009 12:44:03 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: OL Hickory

SEIU is nothing but a bunch of parasites.

They do nothing but feed off of our tax dollars and in return do nothing good.

Most nurses are SEIU. They want Obamacare because they figure eventually they’ll become civil service employees and then they can not work, get paid and never be fired.


20 posted on 08/10/2009 12:44:29 AM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Don't give up any of your rights. They were purchased for you by blood!)
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To: OL Hickory
This is the link that I was given when I attempted to find out about health care:

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/HC_OfficeVisits/OfficeVisit_CA.pdf

What really gets me about this is that they suggest that we should agree with them about Obama Care and that is the reason for the visit.

This is rather disgusting, as I would expect that our representatives would want to know what our thoughts are on this, regardless if we agree with them or not!

Is this the twilight zone?

As far as I am concerned, Dennis Cardoza is TOAST!

Obama lock steppers!

21 posted on 08/10/2009 1:04:11 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (I am a European American! Silly me. I never realized that before! Thanks, oh great unifier!)
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To: GoreNoMore

This senator showed the bill and gave a great explaination

the video is 17 minute long, if you find it interesting please e-mail it out for all those that believe that this is made up hype.

VERY INFORMATIONAL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryd90y7eOA4


23 posted on 08/10/2009 1:09:25 AM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: kcvl
What a bunch of absolute SCUM BAGS!!!
24 posted on 08/10/2009 1:17:56 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saul Alinsky. Read. Quote. Memorize. Adopt. Open this wonderful can of whoop-a*s back in THEIR faces)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Interesting how, on a health care topic, they almost ALL seem to be, uhm, very “healthy”, if you know what I mean. (I’m guessing they haven’t heard about the latest ideas for new taxes.)


25 posted on 08/10/2009 1:30:33 AM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: kcvl

I'm FAT


I'm FAT


I'm FAT


WE ARE FAT


We really are FAT, HAHAHAHA


Even your backs are FAT


Fat people need busses because they cannot fit into Obama cars


Chief, we need forklifts, these people are FAT


Num Num Num FAT


SEIU LOVES FAT LAZY PEOPLE LIKE YOU, FREE CAKE


YAY, WE ARE FAT


FAT PEOPLE UNITE

26 posted on 08/10/2009 1:35:13 AM PDT by MaxMax (Will the real JIM THOMPSON please pick up the white phone)
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To: OL Hickory; All
Pardon the fast cut & paste-- I just ran across this garbage...

Like I tell you all- Use The Links, damn it-- all of them- to get the whole story-- it is disgusting!

liberals advertising for paid protesters over three weeks ago, on healthcare ... but supposedly republicans / conservatives are the frauds. XXX you, Nancy Pelosi, you lying sack of XXX.
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/etc/1310895349.html

 
Dems Continue "Listening Tour"-- Fists, Boots, Bullhorns, Stomping Heads, Smashi
"Last Wednesday, I went to Wakarusa to protest the IIC's policies. SEIU/ACORN had bussed in at least 3 busloads of Obamessiah supporters. Yesterday I was told 2 buses were from St. Louis, one from Chicago.
Some of these same people showed up yesterday at Martin's grocery. Wednesday and yesterday they used the tactic of walking in front of anti-Obama protesters and raising their signs while shouting down the protesters. I saw this same tactic at our local July TEA Party, and when Obama spoke at Notre Dame. On Wednesday I moved away from the ACORN incursion, informing people that my job since 1971 has been killing Commies, and I was having some difficulty restraining myself.

As I've written before, it won't take much to toggle Civil War in this kind of climate."
 
"Wouldn't it be ironic if the "revolution" actually happened and it was middle America that revolted against the aged 60's radicals who seem to have wormed their way into places of power?"
 
The real astroturfing....and getting paid for it.

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2009/08/09/lets-talk-astroturf/

Caught with their drawers down again.
 
Health care funds for community organizers
 

Anatomy of Nancy Pelo-cchio’s Astroturf brigade

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 7, 2009 11:43 PM

Madame Speaker Nancy Pelosi (affectionately known as Nancy Pelo-cchio among us “political terrorists” on the Right) snuck into a Denver health care clinic today, where she was greeted by 200 grass-roots protesters against socialized medicine — and a handful of Obama-bots and union members carrying identical HCAN signs.

I already noted this morning how one of the Obamacare activists yanked an anti-Pelosi sign out of a protester’s hands. Brown shirt, anyone?

There’s much more.

Denver photojournalist El Marco was at the event and has an amazing pictorial essay detailing how Pelo-cchio’s Astroturf brigade had to be coached by professional organizers — including several day laborers who didn’t speak English and couldn’t tell what the signs they were holding read. And they accuse Tea Party folks of being puppets?!

Authenticity!

***

Elsewhere in Colorado, Rep. Jared Polis gets and earful.

And “mobsters” in Longmont respond to the Democrat smears.

 

Read this article the whole thing … particularly the reprint if the June column.

But you won’t find The Tides very far away. Ah, found it … on HCAN’s own website:

And check out this article from late 2008. ACORN, AFSCME, Americans United for Change, Campaign for America’s Future, Center for American Progress Action Fund, Center for Community Change, MoveOn.org, National Education Association, National Women’s Law Center, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, SEIU, United Food and Commercial Workers, and USAction.

Obama’s OFA ‘cooked up plan’ to astroturf community organize Congressional offices [Darleen Click]

You knew this was coming. I got the email Sunday afternoon click on image for full email

We’ll provide everything you need: the address, phone number, and open hours for the office, information about how the health care crisis affects your state for you to drop off (with the option of adding your personal story), and a step-by-step guide for your visit. [...]

Many representatives are pushing hard toward reform, and they are taking a lot of heat from special interests. They deserve our thanks and need our support to continue the fight. But those who are still putting insurance companies and partisan point-scoring ahead of their constituents must know that voters are watching – and that we expect better.

Of course, I clicked through the embedded link to sign up!

Let’s look at the money line again

Choose a day and time to sign up this week — we want to have someone at each office throughout the day all throughout the week.

Here’s the link

Obama’s plan is to flood Congressional offices, every hour of every day of the break with form carrying OFAers.

Noooooo. No astroturfing here! Move along, nothing to see.

After I filled in the form and “scheduled” a time, I received the two-page plan. Also, they asked for a contact phone number so “an organizer” can check up on me.

Understand, I am going to contact the good Congressman and tell them what to expect from the OFA, and I am going to take the call from the organizer.

But I don’t think s/he is going to hear what they expect when they reach me.

Indeed.

"My late father told me 35-40 years ago essentially that, once you accept government money, they own you, control you, and call the shots."
 
Saturday, August 8, 2009, 7:11 PM
The_Anchoress

There is offensive language on this video, so if that bothers you, you are warned. To my way of thinking the physical violence is more offensive:

Source: The indispensable Hot Air

The day after the attack on a fellow selling buttons and “Don’t Tread on Me” flags (and which immediately preceded this event), Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius held a conference call to the SEIU, during which she greeted her union “brothers and sisters” and said “keep doing what you’re doing!”

Culture of Corruption, anyone? By the book.

From time-to-time I get commenters telling me what a horrid Catholic I am, because I don’t like the policies and practices of our president, and I don’t delicately mince my words about it. I seem to lack “nuance” or something.

I wonder if Catholic Sebelius’ tacit endorsement of physical violence and intimidation bothers these folks as much? Oh, wait, let me anticipate the response: “Obviously Sebelius could not possibly have known about the previous night’s beating, video of which was all over the internet, or she would have chosen her words differently, because no reasonable person could ever believe that she would actually be endorsing thug-tactics, which were probably staged and false, anyway. And there were no so-called “thugs” running interference in Tampa, either!”

That about cover it?

Okay, now, this photo essay is breathtaking – you’ll want to send it around:

So, Sebelius tells the unions to keep doing what they’re doing, and then Nancy Pelosi (another Catholic with life-issue-learning disabilities) who called the protesters “Astroturf” who “carry swastikas” (ahem) gets some help with GENUINE top-down-manufactured, David Axelrod-designed Astroturfing by her own team. Check it out, and see just who is being “organized by powerful interest groups” (and community organizers) and who are the grassroots protesters.

Some captions:

…an organizer from Organizing for America, which is the successor organization to Obama for America, which was Obama’s campaign organization. The organizer is demonstrating the use of a bullhorn to a man who appears totally unfamiliar with its use. For a grassroots campaign, this sure is organized! . . . This is the first time in my life that I can recall a government in North America organizing protests of one group of citizens against another. This is standard operating procedure in countries with left-wing governments.

This clinic is adjacent to Denver’s day laborer pickup street, Park Avenue. Being fluent in Spanish, El Marco asked these guys “¿hablan ingles?” “casi nada” was the reply from our amigo on the left. I asked him if he could tell me what the signs said. “¿Quien sabe?” (who knows?) was all he said to me, with a big grin. I’m kicking myself for not asking them how much they were getting paid to support the grassroots.


Check out the organizer’s “puppet,”
meant to accuse the grassroots folks of being same. If it were not so demented, so dishonest, so disingenuous, so insulting and so very, very troubling, it would be hilarious. Of course, there is nothing hilarious about people “getting in their faces” ala Obama’s campaign command, and blasting out their ears with bullhorns.

“My organizer called me.” I said “You’re kidding.” She said, “No, look: he’s right there -pointing to the guy with the bullhorn – he’s from Organizing for America.” At this point, a number of the astroturfers departed, including Laura. She told me that transportation was waiting to take them to Nancy Pelosi’s next event at Highlands Ranch.

What unconscionable dishonesty from Nancy “I-think-they’re-astroturf” Pelosi. Everything she and her party says they hate, they are. Everything they accuse the opposition of doing, they do. I can’t even call it “projection” because in truth, projection is often innocent and unconscious. There is nothing innocent or unintended in their duplicitousness. This is such breathtaking dishonesty that it makes Bill Clinton at his lying worst look like a piker, like a mere Tom Sawyer.

Meanwhile, based on nothing more than their Obamalovin’ hate and the goofball numbers they can pull out of their asses, the increasingly whacked and utterly indecent Chris Matthews and his guest decide that hey, 45-65% of these protesters? Raaaaaacists! Yup. Yup. Yup!

So, you see, if you oppose Obamacare, you’re a bad person; if you’re a bad person, you can be labeled anything the left and the press (but I am redundant) want to label you. If you protest this president’s policy and the way he and his minions are going about suppressing dissent, then you are raaaacist. And if you suggest that Kathleen Sebelius and Nancy Pelosi are organized-movement cheerleaders you will probably be called a seeeeexxxist.!

I am waiting for some gay/lesbian/transgendered community organizer, astroturf-participant or member of congress to wade into this debate with an accusation that opposition to Obamacare is somehow opposition to gender-tolerance, so we can be called hoooomophobes, too, and win the Racist/Sexist/Homophobe Trifecta of Nasty Namecalling and Libelous Labeling – an award the left generously and incessantly enjoys handing out to the stupids on the right

What creepy, creepy people.

And if you don’t like that, if you think I’m a baaaad Catholic for spelling it out, well I feel absolutely no need to confess anything more than my contempt for what is going on in this country under the guise of false “hope” and nefariously dishonest “change,” and for the busy little useful idiots who carry this disease like wide-ranging cockroaches.

So, you should probably flag me to the government. And go ahead, report me to the pope, too, after you shake your head sadly and tell me how “disappointed” you are in me.

I am more than disappointed in you. But you know what? I’ll still never thug you up.

Related:
Additional assaults in Missouri: “We’re from Chicago” gets into townhall while constituents are kept out Watch the whole series of videos.
John Leo: Nancy’s Nazi Shock; Did She forget the Bush years?
Boston Globe Tiptoes toward the truth about tax increases
Malkin: Nancy Pel-occhio
Dana Show: Great pics, keep scrolling
Steyn: Brooks Brothers. Mel Brooks. Springtime for Hitler. Swastikas.
JWF: Democrats hold “stealth” meetings
Moran: “Who is the statesman and who is the political putz”?
Brutally Honest: Constitution…Bill of Rights…Whaa?
Gay Patriot: Obama the Unifier
It took six years: not six months
Talk over him, don’t allow him to answer anything completely, offer juvenile demands…and berate himYeah, that’s the Chicago Way
Reason: Where are all the dissident artists?. You know, that’s a problem. If artists have no more angst because they love everything in Obamaland, their art will die. But there is some hope for them – seems the recession is not over.
Running out of:Other People’s Money


27 posted on 08/10/2009 1:43:57 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: PanzerKardinal

“SEIU is nothing but a bunch of parasites.”

AKA Communists


28 posted on 08/10/2009 2:13:24 AM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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To: kcvl

They will be mighty disappointed when they find themselves suckered and we will tell them “we told you so.”


29 posted on 08/10/2009 2:15:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: backhoe

Even if these were non-thugs, it is bizarre that the gummit should be hiring people to lobby itself!


30 posted on 08/10/2009 2:17:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: backhoe; OL Hickory

Apparently they are “scrubbing” the negative comments on the link from the article posted as fast as they can. Funny that. Meh.

Like this:

Patriot Act | August 8, 2009 9:30 PM | Reply

Hmmm, there must have been a website malfunction because my previous comment disappeared. No need to restore from backups, I’ll just post it again:


Wow. I can’t believe you included the St. Louis violence clip in your little propaganda video. You do realize, don’t you, that the clip clearly documents an assault by one of your union members. If you replay the video a few times and watch closely, you can see that at 1:03, the guy in the blue union shirt rushes into the picture, grabs Mr. Gladney (in the brown) and violently throws him to the ground. An unmistakeable assault. Way to go!

unionslayer | August 8, 2009 11:43 PM | Reply

Socialist
Evil
Invidious
Unscrupulous

Take it down again, thugs; I’ll keep posting it.

Dissent is patriotic, not just for leftists.


31 posted on 08/10/2009 3:09:00 AM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Daffynition
You do realize, don’t you, that the clip clearly documents an assault by one of your union members.

I love it when fools impeach themselves. And the web has a memory or sorts- it's hard to get rid of everything.

Dissent- it's not just for the Left Wing, anymore...

32 posted on 08/10/2009 3:13:52 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: OL Hickory

“a reverend and member of SEIU was assaulted at a town hall”

I DID NOT KNOW THAT KENNETH GLADNEY WAS A REVEREND AND A MEMBER OF SEIU! AND I DID NOT KNOW THAT SEIU WERE GOP OPERATIVES!


33 posted on 08/10/2009 3:18:11 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: backhoe

I think this is only the tip of the iceberg of ugly. The thugs are not going to live this one down, no matter how they spin it. More and more people are beginning to pay attention....even those who normally aren’t political. Too bad our elected representatives are not listening. Of course they’ll be thrown out of office and receive an appointment as a czar.


34 posted on 08/10/2009 3:23:08 AM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: backhoe

VOTE AGAINST ALL INCUMBENTS


35 posted on 08/10/2009 3:27:07 AM PDT by crazyotto
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To: Daffynition
Too bad our elected representatives are not listening. Of course they’ll be thrown out of office and receive an appointment as a czar.

You know, I have pondered that mightily, because at heart politicians are much the same- they cling to power & office, and normally ignoring a majority of voters is suicidal...

All I can figure behind this seeming indifference to The Will of The People is that they calculate on Zer0 appointing them to unelected office if they lose their seats, or that we will be so much in their thrall that they can ignore us.

36 posted on 08/10/2009 3:41:27 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: crazyotto
VOTE AGAINST ALL INCUMBENTS

Years ago, I belonged to US Term Limits, and as interest waned in the cause, mine did too, but honest to God, something has got to be done to get those jackals either out of office entirely, or get them home to the people they supposedly represent so they can hear them, and not a bunch of DC Fat Cats who currently have their ears.

37 posted on 08/10/2009 3:44:41 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: backhoe

Well, as you well know, that’s politics .... and not exclusive to *Dems* ...ambassadorships, judgeships, lobbyists, you name it. They can’t get off the teat of power and exclusivity.


38 posted on 08/10/2009 3:45:34 AM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

There is no such thing as “red fascism”. Communism is one form of socialism, Fascism is another - both are distinctive political philosophies and are mutually exclusive. Of the two, Fascists are far more benigh than Communists.

Number of people murdered score:
Nazi Fascist Hitler - 20,946,000
Communists Stalin & Mao - 138,613,000
Japanese Statists - 10,000,000
SouthEast Asian Communists - 5,300,000

Socialism to 1987 - 212,559,000
(give or take the odd million here and there)

You must be able to name your enemies accurately and consistantly or you will never be able to defeat them.


39 posted on 08/10/2009 4:54:25 AM PDT by PIF
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To: PanzerKardinal

“Most nurses are SEIU”

That might ought to read “Most nurses who are unionized are SEIU”.

My wife is an RN, and I can tell you right out that most nurses are not unionized. In fact, as for our experience, only those in CA are.


40 posted on 08/10/2009 5:04:25 AM PDT by lbama
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To: Boucheau

I still see the states’ rights movement as the only way to rid ourselves of these thugs and parasites.

Simply make their behavior, nay, their entire CULTURE unacceptable in your state and tell the feds to piss off when they attempt to force a state to accept them.


41 posted on 08/10/2009 5:19:31 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: lbama

I apologize.

I live in California and almost every nurse I know is an SEIU member.

Also, the SEIU threatens some hospital every year with a strike.


42 posted on 08/10/2009 8:19:17 AM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Don't give up any of your rights. They were purchased for you by blood!)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.

**This is a high volume ping list! (sign of the times)**


43 posted on 08/10/2009 8:24:21 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: kcvl

What is Obama’s plan for helping Doctors who obviously are challenged with Obesity and Stress issues.


44 posted on 08/10/2009 8:28:09 AM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: TheDailyChange

Great question!


45 posted on 08/10/2009 8:42:25 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I thought so, thank you.


46 posted on 08/10/2009 8:52:13 AM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: OL Hickory

projection ... the ansky way


47 posted on 08/10/2009 9:15:06 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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