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Are there any INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS around anymore?
Meet the Press/NBC ^ | 08/09/2009

Posted on 08/09/2009 2:14:18 PM PDT by Sunshine54

Obama too hands-off on health care?

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; healthcare; partisanmedia; reporter; townhall
I tried to catch the news this morning before heading for Church and expected to see some stories on the uproar at the Town Hall meetings this week. I caught some of David Gregory on Meet the Press and Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday. Both programs were a dissapointment. You would think with all the noise Americans are making at these Town Halls, the heads of the news departments might just send someone out to a gathering or two, locate a wellspoken, informed person who is protesting the Healthcare Act H.R. 3200 and ask them what in this bill is bothering them.

Both Gregory's panel and Wallace's panel had plenty to say about how the protests were hurting either the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, but neither seemed to want to find out why the people protesting were actually so upset. Are there no investigative reporters anymore?

You could equate this kind of journalism to a film critic going to a theater and reporting on the emotions of the audience- they laughed, they cried, they cheered, but saying nothing about story or content of the film. This doesn't give a person considering viewing a film any idea if their money would be well spent in seeing it. This kind of journalistic reporting doesn't educate the American people on the quality of job their Congressman is doing.

I've gotten emails with sections of this bill noted that were really scary. When dealing with a Congress that includes members who have put their fingers in banks and financial institutions and ruined them plus forced shareholders in the auto industry to lose their life savings- why shouldn't the average tax paying American have qualms about these same people taking over their health care? Not to mention that many in Congress are considered tax evading criminals themselves, along with members who seem to get "special loans" and favors from the very institutions they legislate over. These "Congressional Crooks" stay in power and never even get their hands slapped. How can the American people trust these "lawmakers"?

There has been a lot of comments made regarding how the members of Congress have not read this bill in its' entirety. Again I ask.. Why not send a reporter to these meetings, ask who at the meeting has read the bill and what their objections seem to be? Then report those findings instead of reporting about the "angry mobs" at the event.

This is the news coverage we want. I think the American people would prefer to hear what kind of performance their elected officials are giving them rather than if Paula Abdul will be returning to American Idol.

1 posted on 08/09/2009 2:14:18 PM PDT by Sunshine54
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To: Sunshine54
there are no reporters, just propagandist
2 posted on 08/09/2009 2:16:45 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sunshine54

Reporters don’t investigate anything. They call their sources.


3 posted on 08/09/2009 2:17:37 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: Sunshine54
Are there any INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS around anymore?,

Nope.. they're all good card carrying "Party" members.

4 posted on 08/09/2009 2:17:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Sunshine54

There are a few investigative reporters, but they only look into Republicans and Conservatives.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 2:18:32 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Sunshine54

They only investigate (R).


6 posted on 08/09/2009 2:18:53 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: Sunshine54

That would be “journalism” and we cannot have that. Much easier to get all your talking points from the White House.


7 posted on 08/09/2009 2:18:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Doogle

In answer to you headline.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOO


8 posted on 08/09/2009 2:20:35 PM PDT by Marty62
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To: Sunshine54

The short answer is “No”. How can one tell? They report what the Democrats and Republicans say about each other but rarely report about the actual source material that each side is arguing about. It’s not difficult to understand why. Looking at the full source material on Sotomayor, for example, it’s impossible to conclude anything other than she’s a leftist and a liar.


9 posted on 08/09/2009 2:20:48 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Sunshine54

Here’s one of the best around today:

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/


10 posted on 08/09/2009 2:21:36 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Sunshine54

I haven’t watched Meet the Press for 40 years.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 2:22:08 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Sunshine54
They can't do investigative reporting.

If they start doing it now and it's seen how they covered up for Oshama during the campaign the public will turn against them in droves.

12 posted on 08/09/2009 2:24:56 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Sunshine54
Commie entertainmentnews.

Shut them down!

13 posted on 08/09/2009 2:25:32 PM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: Sunshine54

Yes. I became one two months ago.


14 posted on 08/09/2009 2:26:33 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Sunshine54

The NY-Washington power elite will never admit the people have any influence in the country. They ignore us on purpose.

For example, the 2:1 rejection of tax and spend initiatives in liberal California a few months ago received almost no press.

You will see nothing about the popular uprising against ObamCare except to paint us all as paid schills or loonies.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 2:28:00 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Sunshine54

All of “investigative” reporters are busy scouring leftwing blogs to form a narrative based on rumor of what Sarah Palins children are up to next.

You know, the important matters of the country...


16 posted on 08/09/2009 2:28:20 PM PDT by Tempest (Honk if I'm paying for your bonus.)
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To: Sunshine54

I almost bought a paper for the first time in 5 years but came to my senses when I found they have gone up to 75 cents.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 2:28:29 PM PDT by iamweasle
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To: Sunshine54

In my early lifetime, there use to be journalists...they have all died unfortunately. The crop today are all propagandists pushing their agenda - reporting facts be damned.

Too bad, but at least there are others to take up the charge. The problem is that there are NO non-corrupt newspaper people around anymore...and very view internet new writers...

A bit depressed about it all... Not something that I wanted to leave to my grand-kids...


18 posted on 08/09/2009 2:29:52 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Sunshine54
Here's a .pdf of the bill, H.R.3200. Hereafter is an interpretaton put together by someone who has attempted to read and comprehend. Please use for your own investigative reporting.

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PG 22 MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure.

PG 24 Line 116 Government effectively sets prices for ALL private health plans.

PG 30 Line 123 THERE WILL BE A Government COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

PG 37 Line 132 The Government will be reviewing grievances about themselves and will decide on appeals for rejected claims.

PG 29 Line 4-16 YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!! Additionally you can reference PG 15 Line 19-25.

PG 42 The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HealthCare Benefits for you. You have no choice!

PG 50 Line 152 HealthCare will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

PG 58 Government will have real-time access to individuals’ finances & a National ID HealthCare Card will be issued!

PG 59 Line 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer!

PG 61 Line 22-24 Congress has no clue what Electronic Medical Records will cost. Asks for estimate.

PG 62 Protection of Data, Government shows they will have database of your personal & financial info.

OK peeps a big one – PG 64 Line 21-25, pg65 Line 1-5 which refers to processing payment transactions by financial institutions

PG 65 Line 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations (ACORN).

PG 72 Line 8-14 Government is creating an HealthCare Exchange to bring private HealthCare plans under Government control.

PG 84 Line 203 Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private. HealthCare plans in the Exchange.

PG 85 Line 7 Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Government will ration your HealthCare! #AARP members – your Health care Will be rationed.

PG 89 Line 6-10 The FAR is not applicable. Government can write contracts any way they want.

PG 95 Line 8-18 The Government will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Government HealthCare plan.

PG 98 Line 8 Americans - You will be paying for others HealthCare while paying for your own.

PG 100 Line 15-19 The Government Will be using ACORN and other community groups to promote & enroll.

PG 102 Line 12-18 Medicaid Eligible Individual will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

PG 109 Line 207 Health Trust Fund. The Government will raise taxes on EVERYONE to fund HealthCare as they see fit. Correction

PG 110 Line 7-12 Employment taxes on ALL employers NOT offering Government HealthCare. No choice.

PG 110 Line 13-18 An excise tax on ALL goods from companies not offering Government HealthCare. ALL Americans pay.

PG 110 Line 19-24 the Treasury can take $$ from Soc Line to pay HealthCare.

PG 111 Line 208 The Federal Government will usurp all State powers in State Based HealthCare Exchange. Violation of 10th Amend.

PG 119 Line 1-3 Establish geographically-adjusted premium rates for public option Can you say ACORN census?

PG 121 Line 223 PAYMENT RATES FOR ITEMS AND SERVICES. Can you say Government price fixing & monopoly?

PG 124 Line 24-25 No company can sue Government on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Government Monopoly.

PG 126 Line 10-15 The Government can make up prices for anything at anytime for any reason.

PG 126 Line 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HealthCare for part time employees AND their families.

PG 127 Line 1-16 Doctors: The Government will tell YOU what you can make.

PG 129 The public option will be subsidized. Credits = your tax dollars. Redistribution of wealth.

PG 130 Line 10-23 Federal Government will subsidize State Medicaid = Even Higher State & Federal taxes for ALL.

PG 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE.

PG 149 Line 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll 400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

PG 150 Line 9-13 Biz with payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesn’t provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

PG 151 Line 1-3 Aggregate Rules-tax on employers payroll not on public option include payroll of other biz.

PG 167 Line 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HealthCare according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of inc.

PG 170 Line 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

PG 195 Officers & employees of HealthCare Administration (Government) will have access to ALL Americans financial/personal records.

PG 198 Line 1-3 1.5% ADDITIONAL TAX on peeps who have income of 500k to 1mil. Redistribution of Wealth.

PG 198 Line 4-6 5.4% ADDITIONAL TAX on peeps who have income of $1mil+. Redistribution of Wealth

PG 199 Line 1-4 Surtax rates on raised AGAIN on Americans in 2012.

PG 201 Line 12-19 Government will ignore whatever costs they see fit to show savings. (Cooking the books)

PG 203 Line 14-15 “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that.

PG 202-215 is a Government rewrite of the tax code ensuring more taxes for EVERYONE, Everywhere.

PG 239 Line 14-24 Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.

PG 241 Line 6-8 Doctors, doesn’t matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same.

PG 236 Line 22-25 PG 237 Line 1-3 National rate of uninsured defined by Census. Can you say ACORN corruption?

PG 239 Line 10-12 Medicare DSH payments will be increased. Can you say even higher taxes for all?

PG 238-249 Line 1121 Doctors-Government mandates your growth, costs, value, services, & income. Peeps- Welcome to rationing

PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans. We’re next.

PG 260 Line 1125 Fed Government will adjust Medicare Payment Localities for California based on Census. ACORN?

PG 265 Line 1131 Government mandates & controls productivity for private HealthCare industries.

PG 268 Line 1141 Fed Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

PG 270 Line 1144 Government Mandates that all private ambulatory surgical centers submit cost data & other data

PG 272 Line 1145 TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!

PG 276 Line 3-20 Oxygen Equipment & Supply Companies - Government MANDATES you will provide supplies NO MATTER where individual is.

PG 287 Line 14-25 PROOF that Government will ration HealthCare by mandating waiting periods for readmission.

PG 298 Line 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you.

PG 303 Line 12-25 Post Acute Care Services Data – Government will collect data including personal information as they see fit.

PG 304 Line 17-19 BIG ONE HERE: Expedited Data Collection – More information here

PG 304 Line 17-19 Government does NOT have to protect your private, share with anyone, & is not resp (more on expedited data collection)

PG 306 Line 3-6 The Government can expand the scope & size of Post Acute Program Services anytime & as they see fit.

PG 313 Line 9-14 Government MANDATES Health Services providers will state ownership, invest, & compensation arrangements.

PG 317 Line 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

PG 317-318 Line 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Government is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

PG 318-319 Government is mandating how hospitals & physicians conduct business & investments. We’re next!

PG 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!

PG 328 Line 1157 Government study disguised. Its a HealthCare workforce study mandated by law for unionization.

Pg335 Line 16-25 PG 336-339 Government mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HealthCare the way they want. Rationing.

PG 341 Line 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in to Government plan.

PG 354 Line 1177 Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

PG 355-369 Line 1181 Government disguises tax on Drug Companies as rebate to Government to subsidize Drugs. We pay in the end.

PG 379 Line 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy – Telehealth Advisory Committee. Can you say HealthCare by phone?

PG 399 If your a subsidy eligible individual under Medicare part D and you don’t enroll, the Government will auto enroll you.

PG 401 Section 1221 Americans will fund Medicare Language & Translation Services Program. Can you say MORE taxes?

PG 404 Lines 12-16 Government exempts itself again from - Chap 35 of title 44, USC including privacy of Americans.

PG 404 Lines 17-19 Government doesn’t know the cost of Language services but states that money is there.

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life.

PG 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.

PG 429 Lines 1-9 An “advance care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

PG 429 Lines 13-25 The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order. Logan’s Run anyone?

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.

PG 432 Lines 18-21 The Government will publish “quality measures” for individual’s end of life in Federal Register.

PG 434 Section 1234 Military Active, Reservists, Families - If you’re not enrolled in Tricare it is mandated.

PG 434 Section 1234 Military Active, Reservists, Families - Once HealthCare bill is passed your premiums will go up.

PG 438 Section 1236 The Government will develop a patient decision making aid program that you & Dr. WILL use.

PG 443 Lines 7-24 Government at taxpayers expense test out an “Accountable Care Org” program (Government doesn’t have plan.)

PG 444 Lines 1-6 Government’s Accountable Care Program will mandate services & infrastructure thru reward/penalty system.

PG 448 Lines 4-17 Government will set performance targets for ALL Accountable Care Organizations including private.

PG 455 Lines 3-4 Government exempts itself from Chapter 35, Title 44 Paperwork Reduction & Citizens Privacy Protection Act

PG 460 Section 1302 Knock, Knock - It’s the Government and I’m here with the Medical Home Program - YOUR home.

PG 460 Section 1302 The Government WILL provide medical services in your home. Paging Nurse Pelosi!!

PG 464 Lines 17-22 Independent Patient Center Home Medical Services - Drs. don’t have to be at your home just some directed by D

PG 469 Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED Organization - 1 monthly payment to a community-based organization Like ACORN?

PG 476 19-20 Chapter 35/ title 44, (Privacy of personal records) shall not apply Home Medical Services. ACORN ACCESS

PG 489 Section 1308 The Government will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Government into your marriage.

PG 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

PG 502 Section 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. - Hello Big Brother - Literally.

PG 502 Line 5-18 Government builds the “Center” to conduct, support, & synthesize research to define our HealthCare Services.

PG 503 Line 13-19 Government will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic medical records.

PG 503 Line 21-25 Government may secure data directly from any department or agency of the US including your data.

PG 504 Line 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published & unpublished (that means public & your private info)

PG 506 Line 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data

PG 518 Line 21-25 The Commission will have input from HealthCare consumer reps - Can you say unions & ACORN?

PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.

PG 525-620 deals with the Government basically taking over nursing homes, ... Read More here

PG 620 Line 1-9 The Government will define, prioritize, and nationalize your Health Care Services.

PG 621 Lines 20-25 Government will define what Quality means in HealthCare. Since when does Government know about quality?

PG 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the quality Standards Government will transfer $$ from to other Government Trust Funds. More Taxes.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.

PG 628 Section 1443 Government will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.

PG 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups including Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HealthCare quality.

PG 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of HealthCare Services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.

PG 635 - 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision - Government wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Government.

PG 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections - Looks okay.

PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency - Government will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you’ll live.

PG 676-686 Government will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, including teaching hospitals.

PG 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. LMAO!! You mean the Government with an $18 mil website?

PGs 701-704 Section 1619 If your part of HealthCare plan that isn’t in Government HealthCare Exchange but you qualify for Federal aid, no payment.

PG 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secretary gets complaints (ACORN) on HealthCare provider or supplier, Government can do background check.

PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HealthCare providers/suppliers admittance into HealthCare Exchange.

Pg 719-720 Section 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.

PG 722 Section 1639 Government MANDATES Doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other HealthCare service.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Government certifications will apply to medicaid & CHIP (your kids)

Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforcement purposes, the Secretary of Health & Human Services will give Attorney General access to ALL data.

PG 740-757 Government sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (That’s your tax dollars peeps)

Pg 757-762 Fed Government will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)

Page 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin

Pg 765 Section 1711 Government will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)

Pg 768 Section 1713 Government - Nurse Home Visitation Services (Hello union paybacks)

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services - “increasing birth intervals between pregnancies.” Government Abortions anyone?

Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Services include-economic self-sufficiency, employment advancement, school-readiness.

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services - “increasing birth intervals between pregnancies.” Government ABORTIONS anyone?

Pg 770 SEC 1714 Federal Government mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Say abortion & State Sovereign.

Pg 789-797 Government will set & mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs will brought to market. Bye innovation

Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for grad medical education. The government will now control Drs education.

PG 801 Sec 1751 The Government will decide which Health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!

Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc. required to register. Government takes over private payment system.

Page 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal finances.

Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.

PG 829-833 Government will impose a fee on ALL private health insurance plans including self insured to pay for Trust Fund!

PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by Government for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.

Pg 838-840 Government will design & implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids & families expecting kids.

PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Program includes Government coming into your house & telling you how to parent!!!

Pg 859 Government will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes thats Billion.

Pg 865 The Government will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps.

PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HealthCare for 2 years for part loan repayment.

PG 876-892 The Government takes over the education of our Medical students and Drs.

PG 898 The Government will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps. to ensure supply of public health professionals.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of officers of Regular & Reserve Corps of Service.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.

PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers. HealthCare Draft? WTF!

PG 910 The Government will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.

PG 913-914 Government starts a HealthCare affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.

PG 915 SEC. 2251. Government MANDATES Cultural & linguistic competency training for HealthCare professionals.

Pg 932 The Government will establish Preventative & Wellness Trust fund - intial cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion.

PG 935 21-22 Government will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. Control You!!

PG 936 Government will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Performance Standards” Tell me what to eat?

PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Government? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Services, Minority Health, Women’s Health

PG 950- 980 BIG Government core public health infrastructure includes workforce capacity, lab systems; health information systems, etc

PG 993 Government will establish school based health clinics. Your kids wont have a chance.

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say Government Brainwash!

PG 1001 The Government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

PG 1003 9-11 National Medical Dev Reg ‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities” you WILL be tracked.

PG 1018 States give up some of their State Sovereignty.

19 posted on 08/09/2009 2:31:08 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Sunshine54
You could equate this kind of journalism to a film critic going to a theater and reporting on the emotions of the audience- they laughed, they cried, they cheered, but saying nothing about story or content of the film.

You're right. Great analogy.

20 posted on 08/09/2009 2:31:11 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Sunshine54
Are there any INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS around anymore?

Just off hand I can really only think of one: It's called Free Republic and you can find it at www.freerepublic.com.

21 posted on 08/09/2009 2:31:16 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Sunshine54
When dealing with a Congress that includes members who have put their fingers in banks and financial institutions and ruined them plus forced shareholders in the auto industry to lose their life savings- why shouldn't the average tax paying American have qualms about these same people taking over their health care? Not to mention that many in Congress are considered tax evading criminals themselves, along with members who seem to get "special loans" and favors from the very institutions they legislate over. These "Congressional Crooks" stay in power and never even get their hands slapped. How can the American people trust these "lawmakers"?

SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!!!! WHY,DOESN'T THE UTHOR KNOW THAT'S TREASONOUS, SEDITIONIST, NASTY, MEAN SPIRITED, OFFENSIVE,UNCONSCIONABLE, BIGOTTED, RACIST, AND, VERY TRUE.

Why,he might hurt some duly elected felon's feelings.

22 posted on 08/09/2009 2:31:55 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (There is not enough combined intellect in the beltway to jumpstart a moron.)
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To: Marty62

Now that’s just sad. Lack of investigative reporting is even affecting the Democratic Party with their laziness in following up on a story. In the same episode as the link above on Meet the Press, Gregory notes the “long hug” given by former V.P. Al Gore to former President Bill Clinton on his return from negotiating the release of the 2 reporters captured in North Korea and sentenced to 12 years hard labor. Gregory made a reference pertaining to Brokeback Mountain regarding the long hug.

Why couldn’t he have just said that Gore looked really happy to get his 2 reporters returned safely. You do suppose that Gregory realizes that the 2 reporters, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, work for Gore owned Current TV’s Vanguard Journalism Unit, don’t you?


23 posted on 08/09/2009 2:33:03 PM PDT by Sunshine54 (Sunshine54)
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To: popdonnelly
Reporters don’t investigate anything. They call their sources.

Whether they actually have any or not.

24 posted on 08/09/2009 2:33:32 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (There is not enough combined intellect in the beltway to jumpstart a moron.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Is that for real? Who compiled it and did they wade through the whole bill? WOW


25 posted on 08/09/2009 2:37:06 PM PDT by Sunshine54 (Sunshine54)
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To: Sunshine54
Reporters are now editorialists. And piss poor ones at that!
26 posted on 08/09/2009 2:37:23 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: Sunshine54

I’ve checked each against the other in several random places and found the interpretation to be sound, but have not had time to compare each point.


27 posted on 08/09/2009 2:40:32 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Sunshine54

I realize Glenn Beck is a commentator, rather than an “investigative reporter,” but he sure does his homework and brings it to light.


28 posted on 08/09/2009 2:40:53 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Doogle

no


29 posted on 08/09/2009 2:41:32 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Sunshine54
Meachem from Newsweek says obama is in a fight between the extremes of those who say, "socialism socialism socialism" and those on the left saying they're crazy.

Did that asshat not see TIME's cover, "We Are All Socialists Now"?

Therefore, Meachem's saying TIME is a right-wing extremist.

And this kind of thinking is running our lives.

30 posted on 08/09/2009 2:42:52 PM PDT by rvoitier ("The law allows what honor forbids." -- C. C. Colton)
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To: popdonnelly

More likely they are sitting at their desks on their fat fanny looking through the internet until they can find a story they create their own fantasy version of.


31 posted on 08/09/2009 2:46:25 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Has Congress ever passed any “Monster size” bill that turned out to be a good bill? It also amazes me that when an “error” finally gets noticed in a bill that has been past, no one seems to know who authored that part of the bill.

Has any Congress in history ever stood on such thin ice before and election year? Are they too dumb to know this?


32 posted on 08/09/2009 2:52:12 PM PDT by Sunshine54 (Sunshine54)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

ping for reference. Thank you!


33 posted on 08/09/2009 2:56:07 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.)
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To: Doogle

I’ve read in the Canadian Free Press that they have some evidence of BO putting the nix on anyone who dares to report about the BC issue. Could this be what’s up with Beck?


34 posted on 08/09/2009 3:01:07 PM PDT by Bluebeard16
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To: Sunshine54

One thing I ‘learned’ today is to beware of a coming language change meant to appease. Something about a label: health care co-ops?? Typical of Dims...just change the name to sooth the mobs.


35 posted on 08/09/2009 3:11:57 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ((PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........DeMint/Sessions, 2012))
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To: Sunshine54

One thing I ‘learned’ today is to beware of a coming language change meant to appease. Something about a label: health care co-ops?? Typical of Dims...just change the name to sooth the mobs.

Add: (this is old, but relevant)

Don’t Fall for The Co-Op Co-Opt
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/19/dont-fall-for-the-co-op-co-opt/


36 posted on 08/09/2009 3:14:39 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ((PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........DeMint/Sessions, 2012))
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To: Bluebeard16

800 billion can do a lot of things


37 posted on 08/09/2009 3:24:18 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Reference bump - who did the analysis? ;-)


38 posted on 08/09/2009 3:25:02 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (I'm an ABC type of guy - Anybody But Crist!)
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To: Sunshine54

Imitative reporters? Yeah, lots. Why?


39 posted on 08/09/2009 3:27:41 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Sunshine54
............You do suppose that Gregory realizes that the 2 reporters, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, work for Gore owned Current TV’s Vanguard Journalism Unit, don’t you?

He probably does not have a clue and could really care less.

40 posted on 08/09/2009 3:34:21 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Sunshine54
You are NOT going to find this reporting on mainstream media. Sometimes it will be on Hannity, otherwise it will not be on TV (occasionally Greta).

Mostly it will be from people like John Ziegler or people from the internet or talk radio.

Fair and balanced only happens once you know what both sides of an issue are. At this point you need to learn them from two different sources.

Fair and Balanced Views on Health care bill:

Obama and Democrats: "Do not read this bill. It will be GREAT and everyone will have world class low cost care. The End."

Anyone against the bill: "READ this bill! It calls for severe rationing of medical care. You will be forced to have an HMO-style primary doctor who will decide if you are allowed to see a specialist. If you are older, most of your care will be to give you pain pills and wait for you to die. Please read the bill. Also remember that we can't afford Medicaid as it now stands, and this will involve giving it to every person in the country. The public plan will do away with the private insurance plans because they will not be able to compete. Government can't run much (check out your DMV); do you want them running YOUR private medical care?"

41 posted on 08/09/2009 3:37:48 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Sunshine54

the obvious answer is “no”.

the question is “why”.

the answer to that important question is because they’re lazy. they expect everything to be given to them. that’s why they’re so infavor of the 0bama approach...


42 posted on 08/09/2009 3:48:16 PM PDT by mreerm
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To: iamweasle

“I found they have gone up to 75 cents.” When as a kid I delivered the local paper it would have got you three weeks of the daily paper. Most rags of today are just that rags.


43 posted on 08/09/2009 3:49:22 PM PDT by usslsm51
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To: Sunshine54

NO


44 posted on 08/09/2009 3:55:55 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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To: Tunehead54
Here is where I got the interpretation while searching for some words from anyone who may have read the bill. I did the same thing as the person who responded: compared the bill to it's interpretation and found it to be accurate in each case, but I have not checked all points. Shall we leave it to Dan Rather or some other investigative journalist? I do not know whose words are the interpretation. That individual may be concerned about being flagged as "fishy." Ha!
45 posted on 08/09/2009 4:08:11 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Tunehead54

Well, bust my buttons. I just discovered it was my long lost cousin, Peter Fleckenstein.


46 posted on 08/09/2009 4:12:09 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: VRWC For Truth

They will search any dumpster, work to uncover any scandal, and mis-step and breach of ethics—as long as its Sarah Palin.


47 posted on 08/09/2009 5:19:01 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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