Posted on 08/07/2009 3:02:04 AM PDT by Scanian
JEWISH Democrats strongly agree with the Israeli position and dis agree with President Obama's on issues such as a Palestinian state, settlement construction and trading land for peace. Does the president realize he's at risk of a break with an important part of his base?
A phone survey (sponsored by the Traditional Values Coalition and conducted by Global Marketing Research Services on July 22-24) of 500 American Jews who self-identified as Democrats exposes broad disagreement with Obama's Middle East policies.
Asked to choose between the Obama view that "if Israel could settle its dispute with the Palestinian refugees and give them a nation of their own, that the Arabs would live in peace with Israel" and the Israeli government view that "the Arabs will never live in peace with Israel and that giving them a nation of their own will just make them stronger," Jewish Democrats sided with the Israeli view by 52 percent to 20 percent.
On the contentious issue of construction in existing West Bank settlements, Democratic Jews also sided with Israel more than with Obama. The survey asked for agreement with Obama when he "says that it is very important that Israel not expand its settlements on the West Bank so as not to alienate the Palestinians," or with Israel that "it should be allowed to build new homes in existing settlements but not to start new ones" -- and got 52-37 backing for the Israeli view.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
A day late and a dollar short....but let’s hope they remember this in 2010 and 2012.
They won't.
I wouldn’t bet against you. :(
Well, 0bama is watching Jews per house in the West Bank settlements.
“Klein: Obama’s ’spies’ monitoring Jews house-to-house. ‘They try to mingle with us to get more information on what we’re doing’”
August 6, 2009 by Procrustes
If they didn’t “break” in 2008, they will never break. Anti-religious, anti-Christian heritage overcomes their brains.
Oh YES we will
The GOP, if it were smart, would take it upon itself to remind them. But I fear that few, short of Sarah Palin herself, will deal more than powder puff punches.
We shall see, I hope you’re right. Maybe in Houston what about NYC!
With all due respect, I believe that Obama could bomb Tel Aviv and it wouldn’t cost him a single Jewish vote. Somehow American Jews seem to be able to discount the obvious and long standing anti-Israel policies of the Democrats while completely ignoring the generally pro-Israel Republican positions when they go to the polls. ‘Tis a mystery that you have to be Jewish to really understand. I certainly can’t explain it.
All to often they associate Republicans with the anti-semitism and country club-type exclusion and blue bloodism of another age.
That is why we have the phrase,”Live like Episcopalians, vote like Puerto Ricans.”
Hence the epithet: "Oven Jews".
I’d love it if you were right.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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What did they expect? BO sat in the pews of the Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years listening to rants against the J O O Z E. He couldn’t have slept through all of them. Maybe some actually took root.
How can anyone being a Christian vote for a party that thinks abortion is a woman's right? Bill Clinton having an intern under his desk performing oral sex was "everybody does it" and "oral sex is not sex".If their General Baptist minister preached this from their pulpit on a Sunday morning they would fire him on the spot,yet they vote for a man to lead this country that does, believes and supports these sinful things.
If I smoke a cigarette, have one alcoholic drink they would think that an unforgivable sin.
It is not just Jews that are foolish for voting democrat, it is Christians as well. Not all Christians voted obama,but my guess is all that are democrats did as they have been doing as long as I have known them and will continue to do so.
Whatever their reason for electing this obamanation as president,it was stupid, obama isn't just an enemy of Israel, he is an enemy of this country too. It's tiresome to read on every Israel thread the bashing of Jews for their obama vote and forget many who hated McCain either sat on their hands,voted for a third party and claimed themselves too conservative to vote against one they knew would harm our country.
And I get tired of the JEWS being told that Obama is bad for Israel etc etc as if that is all that should matter to them
I agree........America First
Nowadays, most Episcopalians vote like Puerto Ricans.
Good polls.
This article shows the Jewish Dem disconnect which Morris doesn’t/can’t address.
Dem Jews side with Israel over the Palestinians not wanting peace and with Israel over settlements but still “92 percent reporting that they approve of the job he [Obama] is doing as president.”
Also
“While they agree, by 67-8, that “if Iran gets nuclear weapons, it will use them to destroy Israel,” only 14 percent said it was “very likely” that “Israel could be destroyed by an Iranian nuclear attack in the next 10 years.” Another 37 percent called it “somewhat likely” and 40 percent said “unlikely.”
and they say Jews are smart. I would say they are mightily confused and can’t face up to the reality of their bad choice even though he is the first African American president.
These masochists need a detox program in order to break their addiction to Democrats. (It certainly won't be included in Obama's health care plan.)
Somehow I doubt that.
Does the president realize he's at risk of a break with an important part of his base?
Hey, so long as he keeps the abortions, homosexuality, and euthanasia coming. The Nazis were against all that stuff, you know [/sarcasm].
I'm afraid I agree. American liberal Jews define themselves against "chr*stianity," by which they mean anything in the "old testament." Part of this is because they're so ashamed of their "primitive" Theocratic ancestors that they think by taking the side of today's Canaanites in every dispute they will erase the memory of the "crimes" of their ancestors. Thus they brand creation and the "Ten Commandments" as chr*stian and attack it, and support euthanasia and abortion. The Holocaust, not Sinai, is the center of history for them. They interpret all Jewish history as an anti-religious (lehavdil) "passion play" in which the Jewish People "died to redeem the world from religion."
Unfortunately, these people are the dictionary definition of Jewishness not only to themselves, but to many other people as well.
No. G-D first, in every issue, domestic and foreign. To place one's country ahead of G-d is both idolatrous and henotheistic.
Scoundrels always surround themselves with highly visible "Jews" to take the fall when things go south.
What on earth should the color of his skin have to do with whether or not he is a good or bad choice? Even thinking along those lines is indeed racist!
“Even thinking along those lines is indeed racist!”
Don’t I know it. The “post-racial” President set racial relations back decades.
Of course. It's all a Jewish plot. Everyone knows "Jews are smart and pushy," and obviously the very visible Jewish presence in decadent movements is merely due to the evil nature of the Serpent Race. [/sarcasm]
If you think Rahm Emmanuel is the Power Behind the Throne, there's no need in us having a conversation.
Obama doesn't believe that BS. He knows full well the Arabs will never abandon their goal of destroying Israel. In fact, he and the Arabs have the same goal.
They didn’t learn from their ancestors!!
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All those groups that blindly voted in such huge majorities for Hussein Junior and also the lefties for Congress have no worries about being called or thought of as “smart”
Suicidal perhaps.....
What is the definition of those who keep making the same mistakes over and over again - yet still expect a different result?
Maybe it's the "Jews" that are always surrounding themselves with highly visible scoundrels...?
... Just kidding!
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Yah, it's amazing...
Jewish liberals are the only people in the world capable of having a love-hate relationship with themselves!
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Yeah and Axelrod and Saul Alinsky have no input
You think this boob is anything but a puppet than you are right there is no conversation
He may well be a puppet, but it sure ain't da JOOOOZE who are "pulling the strings."
You need to learn a little about the authentic Torah leadership (like Rabbi 'Eliyashiv, shlit"a). If da JOOOOZE are pulling any strings, it's people like him doing the pulling, and he sure ain't pulling Obama's.
The Gedolei-HaDor are the only authentic Jewish leadership, regardless of what anyone says.
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