Town hall meeting in Philadelphia...my perspective.

me ^ | 8/2/2009 | lets456

[mikelets456]

I just came from the Philadelphia town hall meeting. First off I am glad that there were more objecting to this crap. However, these people have their minds made up and don't give a spit about what we think.One thing I have to say is, I knew Sebelius was a nut job...but now I really believe she is evil! There was a man who obviously had some physical disability and he thanked Sebelius for her service...she gave him a courtesy smile then her face went to "stone cold evil" after he looked away! Such arrogance...the anger ran through my veins how 40% of Americans could be so clueless.

I found myself walking out angry as a 50 year old man was hassling a 75 year old man over abortion.I immediately walked over to the older man's defense because I had enough of the liberal bully tactics. The guy walked away quickly after he arrogantly turned towards me and realized he was about to encounter a PISSED 240 pound 6' weight lifter. He walked away as I pointed out "typical liberal...free speech for anyone unless you oppose them.."

I felt the need to hang out with the elderly man until others arrived. What has this country come to? These people are arrogant and have NO respect for anyone but themselves! Sorry for the rant, but I need to repent as I was not happy about my actions, even though I meant no harm I too acted out of character when I saw this elderly man being picked on.

Final point to anyone reading this, please oh please attend these meetings whether you have the time or not....after all 2 hrs of your time could save the future of our country. Also, I ask for all reading to pass the word, starting tomorrow AM pray for this country before you get out of bed...first thing. Do this for 14 straight days. There is power when we all pray first thing in the AM.

[mikelets456]

If you want to do this please post below "I'm in" and this is what to pray for: -The leaders of this country will follow the God given rights that the forefathers intended for this country. -if they do not they will be removed and replaced with people that have godly principles and uphold what the forefathers intended.

Please it must be done for 14 consecutive days and before you get out of bed or speak with anyone.

[Jeff Head]

Amen...I'm in here in Idaho with my reps, particularly Minnick. Everyone should attend and go armed to the teeth with info about this monstrosity bill.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document but is understood to include immigration status.

Section 224 b Page 125: The Secretary shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that — (1) seeks to (B) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities).

A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

Donwload it, read it, study it, then hammer your reps over it and pass it on to all you know asking them to do the same.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.

Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA - A SONG
By Ron and Kay Rivoli

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Thanks for your post. Would like to know more details about the meeting. Thanks for standing up to the man who was verbally attacking the 70 something guy.

Yes, I am in on the prayer project!

Pray and work and, yes, go to their Town Hall Meetings!!!

[ak267]

Some don’t care because even if they’ve voted out, they will be “well compensated” once out of office.

You need to hammer them anyway (even if it’s just for youtube segments which inspires others), but more important you need to hammer the “fence sitters” and even those who oppose the bill (as reinforcement).

[NoGrayZone]

"Sorry for the rant, but I need to repent as I was not happy about my actions"

Please, don't ever be sorry for coming to the aide of an elder.

[loveliberty2]

"We, the People" must be equipped to distinguish and between the principles that would keep America free and prosperous and the false premises that will enslave her, as well as able to articulate them. Accommodating tyranny by failing to call it what it is is dangerous. We need a leader whose words are strong and courageous and based in the principles of our Declaration of Independence.

American citizens need to wake up to the counterfeit ideas and false "hopes" offered by politicians who use "promises," just as the rest of us use "currency."

They buy votes with "promises" in order to gain power to themselves and their ilk. Then, when "hopes" are dashed, "the people" they have promised to help (the naive, the poor, the ignorant--even the "educated" who are ignorant of liberty vs. tyranny) find themselves enslaved, working for those who have purchased their power in the most despicable manner--by offering "hope and change." Thus it has ever been.

The people who founded America were not so "dumbed down." Hear two of them:

"It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens and one of the noblest characteristics of the Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle [usurpation of power] and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much . . . to forget it." - James Madison

" . . . nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the penshioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, lusury, foppery, selfishness, meanness and downright venality swallow up the whole society." - John Adams

Further, it was not just the founding leaders who were well-informed about their constitution and approaching threats to its protections. By the Year 1830, when the French jurist Tocqueville traveled America, he wrote admiringly of the citizenry, observing that even the backwoodsman was far more well-read and informed than those in other parts of the world, and that they understood their Constitution, and had with them a Bible and a newspaper. Sadly, beginning in the mid-20th Century, our "government" schools removed the ideas of liberty from the nation's textbooks, largely under the guise of a counterfeit idea of "separation of church and state," and the citizenry is uninformed as to the difference between tyranny and liberty.

Today, with all modern means of communication, Americans possess little understanding of threats to their liberty and, thus, risk losing it to charlatans whose only goal is power.

[marsh2]

Although a conservative, my representative holds telefonic townhalls. He “manages” the questions that way and limits input with no other public comment.

My Senators have never been in my county that I know of.

[nmh]

Thank you for being there and defending that man. Philly is a tough place ... it’s where the leftists and scum live. I admire you.

I will pray ... .

[LibFreeOrDie]

Attention New England FReepers!

Obama may be visiting New Hampshire on August 11 to have a Town Meeting about health care:

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090802/COLUMNISTS12/308029945

[Morgan in Denver]

Good for you! Wish I could have been with you.

This is a problem with all the Democrats, not just US Reps and Senators. My local state representative is just as bad, and totally clueless. He came by our house in walking the district and he came across as totally sincere in his belief that wind and solar, backed by an active government, would be the answer to every ill we’ve ever had. I believe these guys are brainwashing themselves to an unprecedented degree. Admittedly, it’s worse with the “progressive” wing of the Democrat Party, but it affects all of them.

[Kid Shelleen]

Is there any video ???
Where was the meeting ?
**** Philly Metro/Delaware Valley Ping ****

[HarleyD]

Good for you. I’ve been waiting for them to have one here. I just wrote my liberal brother that I was sick of these liberals racist remarks and pseudo-intellectualism unless you happen to disagree with them. They are nothing more than communists and I’m happy to call them that. My wife has written our congressman and Senators, and I just wrote Bill O’Reilly today about his trashing Lou Dobbs. I’m mad.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Yes of course.

[Noumenon]

We’ll see if Minnick shows his sorry ass up in my neck of the woods (Post Falls, ID) on the 25th of August as his schedule shows.

I have questions and a video camera.

www.operationembarassyourcongressman.com

You get on him down south, Jeff, and I’ll get on him up north.

[Noumenon]

Good job, Mike.

“Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.”

The rest of us need to learn from this man’s example. For some of us, I’m preaching to the choir.

[mikelets456]

Thanks all. There were a few “freeps” there and more from the Tea party. I knew a few of them and it was great to see them.

I just want to let you know to keep fighting. I have three children and a great wife....I only spent a few hours there and back. It is worth it and I am finally at the point that I DO NOT care about what people think because if I did, then the intentions of keeping freedoms and liberty alive will die. These liberals or Marxists will not stop. They have “plants” in the crowd and that’s why you have to be there. I am all too familiar with their tactics...we were attacked when our school showed “That’s a family” to 3rd graders...this video pushed gay marriage and their agenda. We continued to fight and pray. It ended up on National news and eventually pulled from the shelves.Please folks keep it going even if your friends think you are crazy!! Even if they do not support you..

Remember, only 1/3 of Americans were for the revolutionary war.What would happen if that 1/3 listened to their “friends” instead of their hearts!

Please..PRAY and go to these meetings! Spread the word!

[Tribune7]

ping

[mickie]

Mike,

Thanks for going to the meeting. I saw a little clip on Fox awhile ago. Missed most of it. Looked like Specter had a hard time. Can you tell us what happened while you were there?

Will join in the morning prayer.

[JSDude1]

I also encourage all to attend campaign events of Rats (and traitor “R”’s to protest, or recon on what they are doing. Same goes for Organizing for America, SEIU, ACORN, Moveon, APOLLO, etc..events which support socialism Healthcare or/and Cap&Tax!

[thesearethetimes...]

Count me in.

Tatt

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

It’s on youtube evidently - but you are called “crazies” there.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306753/posts?page=2

[lysie]

Bless you and all who support our Constitution.

[kcvl]

Thank you so much for doing this!

Some people just need their a** kicked for once in their sorry, miserable life.

[Republic]

Ok Mike, I am in...but I am not only going to pray that these reps are inspired to follow our forefather’s plan for this nation, our rights and our responsibilities and I am going to pray that they are thrown out of office if they refuse to protect this precious, amazing nation and its foundations and I am ALSO going to pray that IF they continue on this path and ignore our foundations that the people’s voices are heard so loudly and so clearly that despite their leadership they DO THE RIGHT THING as REPRESENTATIVES.

[ChiMark]

Unlike other protestors such as the anti war gang these
people confronting the evils of socialism are older, wiser
and represent the bread and butter stability of our society.

Hooray for the 75 yr old man who came to this event. At the
Tea Parties alot of the people are over 50. When I see adults coming out you know this is a serious issue. These are nor the frivolous youth. Politicians have got to be worried! I guess age reinforces traditional values and breeds wisdom.
Where are the young people?.

[Principled]

i’m in

[mikelets456]

First off it was really hard to hear because of the acoustics. We guessed there were 400-600 people there and best I could guess it was slightly more people against reform.

Regarding Specter I heard quite a few more booing and heckling than “praising”. Like I said it was hard to hear and I was off to the side then moved closer towards the end.

There were a few “conservative” hecklers that I was near. The one guy was actually getting a bit annoying even though he was against the Commies.

I think it was one of those “bitter sweet” outcomes. Bitter in the sense that the commies don’t care what we think and every word is a lie, but “sweet” in the sense that conservatives are continuing to take a stand.

I can not say it enough.....it is VERY important to go to these meetings even if you’re in very liberal areas like us.
It pisses the liberals off that there are “real” people who go to these events that are hired by the thugs!!! Keep pissing them off!!!!

[DinkyJackson]

Liberals suck and it sounds like you got a first hand view of it.

[Think free or die]

I’m so glad you were there. The rains were so heavy up our way that I encountered numerous road closures due to flash flooding. I got as far as Lincoln Drive before I turned back. Wissahickon Creek and Sandy Run were way over their banks and flooding the roads.

[TAdams8591]

Video is at Michelle Malkin's blog. It's excellent! : )

[Windcatcher]

What is it about your actions to not be happy about?

LIBERALS ARE ARROGANT BULLIES.

And of course, there’s only one way to get a bully to heel, so don’t worry. You did just fine. That lib should be thanking his lucky stars he didn’t get a kick in the n*ts.

[TAdams8591]

Also see the original post about it! The protest was sponsored by Independence Hall Tea party Association at independencehalltpa.com

For this area the turnout was phenomenol! There was a at least as many of us as there was of them, perhaps a tad more. Fox News said if this is an indication of future Town Halls, the Obama administration will have a difficult time getting Health Care Reform passed.

We'll get a report and a video up on the website tomorrow!

[Salvation]

**pray for this country before you get out of bed**

BTTT on that!

[Mr. Silverback]

I felt the need to hang out with the elderly man until others arrived. What has this country come to? These people are arrogant and have NO respect for anyone but themselves!

IMHO, civil war is coming--or worse--for this very reason.

[Mr. Silverback]

The moron who posted that video calls them crazies, but thinks he’s sane when he puts his life in the hands of a government that can’t run a $1 billion car rebate program for more than four days.

[Arizona Carolyn]

I don’t know if you are reading the comments at youtube but someone who read your post just misconstrued it bigtime over there, you might want to take a look.

[RaceBannon]

I am 6’4” and 360 and I no longer apologize for being angry at the right things.

And I am 50 in 11 days.

[mikelets456]

No, he simply took it out of context and LIED...he must work for the MSM. See, these people are total scum, liars and cheats.
To make it clear I challenged the guy (this liberal) to his bogus claim! That’s called opinion, debate and never did I threaten him. However, I guess he expected to see another “frail” 70 year old man and was caught off guard when he turned to lash back at me....pretty funny actually.

[Las Vegas Ron]

even though I meant no harm I too acted out of character when I saw this elderly man being picked on.

SPeaking for myself, I would expect nothing less from a fellow FReeper and Patriot.

Nothing but kudos from me

[EdReform]

Ping

[pabianice]

My Congressman, Richard Neal, is spending all his recess in that middle of the road town, Northampton, MA, where the GLBT lobby is being assured that Obamacare will cover all transgender reassignment surgery.

[mikelets456]

Great, maybe I’ll join the ranks and call everyone bigots as I’ll collect everyone Else’s hard earned cash!

[GVnana]

You did the right thing. No reason for shame or remorse.

[Kid Shelleen]

Wow; that video is going viral and I heard it mentioned on several talk shows today. Were any of Rendell’s union storm troopers there?

[TAdams8591]

Not that we could see. : )

[joygrace]

Ed
Thank you for the Pings to the other threads. I appreciate the heads up.

[EdReform]

You’re welcome!

[xsmommy]

Congrats for showing up and for protecting the old guy. i am in on the prayer project, here in NoVA.

[mikelets456]

Awesome!!! Thanks...