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Posted on 07/29/2009 7:43:59 PM PDT by Steelfish
Mystery of Watergate Tapes' Missing Minutes Soon Could Be Solved
Wednesday, July 29, 2009
One of the great political mysteries — what was said by President Nixon during a suspicious 18-minute gap on the Watergate tapes — could soon be solved thanks to a keen-eyed amateur sleuth and modern crime-fighting technology.
The missing section of a 79-minute conversation between Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H. R. “Bob” Haldeman, was erased. It had been recorded during a meeting on June 20, 1972, three days after operatives connected to the White House broke into the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in the Watergate complex.
The U.S. National Archives, which holds the Watergate files, has tried to fill in the blanks. In 2001 it set up a panel to see if new technology could bring back what was said on the tape, but nobody could.
An amateur Watergate sleuth, however, has convinced the archives that there could well be another way to solve the puzzle: using notes taken by Haldeman at the meeting.
Haldeman was a meticulous note taker who wrote in longhand on yellow legal notepads.
Phil Mellinger, a former analyst at the National Security Agency who has delved into the notes, reports, testimony and evidence relating to Watergate, said he had a “eureka” moment in October last year when he visited the National Archives and asked to see Haldeman’s notes from the June 20 meeting.
An assistant brought them out but there were only two pages. They had four sets of holes in the top left-hand corner, suggesting that staples had been taken out and new ones inserted later.
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“Wow — I suddenly realized that at the top of page two, the discussion of Watergate was ending,” Mellinger told The Times of London, “The first page of notes went right up to the time they started discussing Watergate. I believe page two was about the last minute of the 18-minute discussion.”
Mellinger believes that in 1973, when the Watergate scandal began heating up, Haldeman destroyed the pages that covered the gap in the tape, then re-stapled the remainder.
Mellinger has convinced the archives to subject the existing notes to electrostatic detection analysis, which can capture indentations on paper. The hope is that what was written on the allegedly missing pages can be recreated.
Haldeman usually wrote in felt tip pen but on this day he used a ballpoint, greatly improving the chances of success. “I’m pretty confident this will work,” Mellinger said.
Sandy b. hasn’t been up tp his old tricks has he?
he should have kept his mouth shut while exploring this, for a few obvious reasons.
I know what is on the missing 18 minutes.
In the gap, Nixon predicts that if the leftwing Democrats get effective control in Congress, they will sell out Southeast Asia with the resulting death of millions of people with millions more condemned to lives of misery, poverty and government control of their lives.
The missing 18 minutes of audiotape begin with Nixon mumbling in a depressed stupor:
“A Nazi collaborator named George Soros will install a Communist Moslem named Omoslem in the White House, who will proceed to attack America at every turn. The moslem usurper will lock his college records and birth certificate away from public view to conceal his crimes and non-citizen status from the Americans. Eventually he will be revealed as an impostor and a fraud, causing a ruckus even bigger than the ruckus that my tapes will trigger. Because after all, I’m Richard Nixon, I have my faults, BUT AT LEAST I’M A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”
“I’m pretty confident this will work,” Mellinger said.
I wonder if it will work after 37 years.
Watergate is nothing compared to KenyaGate.
It's amazingly sad that Nixon's decision to try to cover up the Watergate debacle lead to exactly that outcome. If he had just let the facts out, it would have ended quickly and the leftie punks would not have been elected to congress in 74.
History turns on a crazy axis at times.
That was my first thought. And I would not trust any info that comes out on Watergate with Hitlery as SOS. She tried to push for Nixon to have no trial. Even then she was a radical
They can bite me. That they have to go far back, and we can dip into last weeks NJ newspapers should be enough. But of course, it's not.
/johnny
the gap was purposefully left to add commercials later.;^)
the gap is about the murder of JFK.
I'll second that. A burglary of DNC and a coverup -- I never really understood all the hullabaloo about that other than it was a way for the Dems to get Nixon.
But a communist moslem usurper fraudulently elected by voter fraud and a somnolent fawning and complicit press who sets out to destroy capitalism and threaten the very foundations of liberty and freedom...now that's a story...
Nah, forget that. Nothing compared to Watergate.
Do not try to resurrect Nixon.
His "secret plan" to end the Vietnam war never existed. I had a lot of friends who went over to fight in that "war without a purpose" some died there, and they all came back changed. Some missing body parts, and some missing part of their minds. And, they all knew there was no purpose to it before they went.
None came back better than they went.
One of the great disappointments in my life is that Nixon spent his final years in relative comfort compared to my friends. I would have preferred to see him cleaning the toilets at San Quentin, 12 hours a day, until he died.
As someone who also has friends and acquaintances who were in that war, I find your post offensive. You are promoting that same old myth that everyone who went to Vietnam is screwed up somehow.
Yes, some of those guys got screwed up pretty bad, both physically and mentally and the conventional wisdom is that this is the typical Vietnam vet.
The reality is that the majority of Vietnam veterans are normal, well adjusted and productive people.
And I am baffled by how you can blame Nixon for that whole mess. (And no, I don’t think highly of Nixon.)
*B-E-S-U-R-E-T-O-D-R-I-N-K-Y-O-U-R-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E*
We could use another burglary of DNC — to get our hands on Omoslem’s birth certificate!
Or at least the 12 forgeries they must be cobbling together.
Omoslem: Guilty as sin.
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Oh, I care. I think this will be very interesting and historically valuable. I hope it works.
Responsibility for Vietnam belongs on Kennedy, Johnson and that arrogant boob Robert Macnamara.
Blaming Nixon just shows how politically and historically ignorant you are.
More LBJ than anyone.
My blame for Nixon is that he campaigned promising to end the war, but once elected, chose to waste American lives for another 4 years, propping up corrupt foreign politicians.
He alone is responsible for the results of that extra four years.
The ‘results’ were we kicked butt until the dems pulled the plug.
My blame for Nixon is that he campaigned promising to end the war, but once elected, chose to waste American lives for another 4 years, propping up corrupt foreign politicians.
You are taking exactly the line that Walter Cronkite et. al. took during the 1968 campaign. Nixon never said, "I have a secret plan," he was simply refusing to say what his plans were because there was no point in unnecessarily giving his opponent an opening to attack. The headlines about "Nixon's Secret Plan" were simply the mechanism whereby Cronkite and his buddies put pressure on the Republican candidate (it wouldn't have mattered who the Republicans nominated, Associated Press journalism had been allied with the Democratic Party at least since FDR's time) to help the Democrat.He alone is responsible for the results of that extra four years.Knowing how trustworthy Big Journalism actually isn't, and even then weren't, doesn't that bother you at all?
There is even now controversy over whether the geopolitical effect of the continuation of US support for freedom in South Vietnam actually was positive. But even taking it as read that there was no benefit from it, you have to understand that Nixon could not have been expected to know that. He didn't even know that Johnson had, politically in the US, in fact already lost the war. That was a difficult thing to accept, entailing as it would have the writing off of all prior casualties as having been undergone for nothing.That is a judgement that Ronald Reagan never accepted, and he twice won election to the presidency by landslides. So I submit that as of 1980 America had still not reached your conclusion.
http://www.rjsmith.com/kia_tbl.html
So you think he should have just pulled out on Jan. 20th 1969, the day he took office?
Cause wars are soooo easy to end when you’re a surrender monkey.
Total BS. Many, in fact most, came back much wiser and better for the experience. Few would want to do it again, but even fewer would trade the experience. Under any measure you care to choose, Vietnam Vets have done better than their contemporaries who did not serve. That is a fact!
While we rightly feel compassion for our brother Americans who did and still do suffer as a result, don't forget those millions in SE Asia who paid a terrible price for our 'decision' to just walk away from them and leave them in the hands of butchers.
The suffering is not comparable. Talk to some 50+ year old Vietnamese or Cambodian and ask them what Watergate meant to their lives and their families.
Nixon was no saint, but he was not Satan either. He simply became target #1 for the New Left, and they nailed him for the same stuff that Kennedy and Johnson did on a regular basis.
You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to pontificate on the effects of the Vietnam War on my friends who went, since you don't know any of them.
I will say it again, the ones who survived the experience came back much the worse for it. Some came back maimed. All who came back were mentally changed.
You may choose to overlook the changes in the people you know, but your blindness does not alter the truth.
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